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02-17-2021, 07:40 AM   #1006
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QuoteOriginally posted by ThorSanchez Quote
It's a little like saying that if there was really a market for electric cars Studebaker would have built one in 1955.
No, it is more like saying "If there were really a market for smaller cars, Studebaker would have built one in 1955."
In the 1950's, Studebaker did try to make smaller cars, but {like all US automakers} never could figure out how to make money selling them.

Your statement is about a change in technology - not in doing that same thing, only better.
Your statement is more like saying "If there was really a market for higher ISO, somebody would have made faster film in 1955".
I spent many years looking for higher ISO, and today Pentax does deliver graceful higher ISO in their modern cameras, so that is one fewer reason for having 'faster' lenses.

You can discuss and discuss the aperture of new lenses - I will wait for another week or so.


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02-17-2021, 07:43 AM   #1007
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Agreed! FA 31 limited has things going for it what is not around absolute performance, but more of how image will look. ’Pixiedust’.
Totally - I'd always use this lens where I want a particular look to my images, like street photography, but I'd use a well corrected 35 or similar for contexts where you want the lens rendering to be less intrusive - which is why we have to guard against expecting the 21Ltd to be a straightforward 21mm lens - it's a Ltd!
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QuoteOriginally posted by ffking Quote
Totally - I'd always use this lens where I want a particular look to my images, like street photography, but I'd use a well corrected 35 or similar for contexts where you want the lens rendering to be less intrusive - which is why we have to guard against expecting the 21Ltd to be a straightforward 21mm lens - it's a Ltd!
Oh I absolutely expect the 21 to be a wider FA Limited, with everything it implies. I'd be disappointed if it weren't!
02-17-2021, 08:25 AM   #1009
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Oh I absolutely expect the 21 to be a wider FA Limited, with everything it implies. I'd be disappointed if it weren't!
Well, I could deal with sharper edges above f8 and less bokeh fringing.
Keep the 3D rendering, that's the magic that people rave about.

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Something like this ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
Well, I could deal with sharper edges above f8 and less bokeh fringing.
Keep the 3D rendering, that's the magic that people rave about.
Actually it would be surprising if they did not do those things better and keep the 3 D rendering. Still those things does make picture pop more and give it more character.
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Another measurement photo:
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I did a quick measurement of the DFA21 taking reference from the side of the prism. It seems the DFA21 is about 67mm with a 20mm deep hood.
All three FA Limiteds to be updated + K-1 Mark II J-Limited 01 - PentaxForums.com
02-23-2021, 12:02 PM   #1013
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I can recall having seen at least 3 different typing spaces between "DFA" and "21mm" lettring on this lens barrel, since Ricoh Imaging showed the first mock-up/prototype.
*Interesting* because i can imagine wich one is the winner, why they are doing this, and what it means for the full aperture.

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Seems there are some innofficial, unconfirmed rumors about the availability of the D FA 21mm ED Limited DC WR:
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Alright . It is coming. DFA 21. They just want to make it perfect before release. It was going to be a surprise, but they did introduce it a while back. I suppose by summer you can put some € in order to order it. Since DA* was there too in that sneak peaked video. Really.
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Seems there are some innofficial, unconfirmed rumors about the availability of the D FA 21mm ED Limited DC WR:
That's not even a rumor, come on, it's a random post.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
That's not even a rumor, come on, it's a random post.

Thats how rumours starts....
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QuoteOriginally posted by angerdan Quote
Seems there are some innofficial, unconfirmed rumors about the availability of the D FA 21mm ED Limited DC WR:
I dont know about any other rumours. Iv seen prototype on video made by Ricoh. And then there are these pictures. Only rumour Iv heard other than thatis that it is already in beta testers hands. And they are making already fixes based on findings from the field. So it is quite close, Id say.
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^ One year till release.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
^ One year till release.
Sounds quite realistic.
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^ One year till release.
Can we quote you on that?


If it's that far away I might be able to fit an used FA* 80-200/2.8 into the budget
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