D FA 21 Limited is one of the three.

Ludwigvonkast · 06-19-2021, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by nonpigliounoshoot

I am of the same opinion, for me it is an incredible lens, unfortunately for now I can only mount it on apsc but one day maybe I will put it on k1. And I'll have to add 43 then or maybe I'll add it first

Thanks for your comment. The reason that decided me to purchase this HD version was precisely the results I got with the 77mm Limited on my K1-II. I was impressed by the "cleanliness" of the image and the definition. One of the first surprises I got with the K1-II was using an old 300mm + the 1,4 extender: I was not prepared to see such an "improvement" in image quality with an old lens together with the extender. Until recently, I have been using a Pentax K3... but comparing the results of the K1-II the difference is from night into day!

**willdmo** · 06-21-2021, 11:42 AM

Pentax gimme the lens (at least to test it out against my trusty FA 20mm)

**mlt** · 06-21-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by willdmo

Pentax gimme the lens (at least to test it out against my trusty FA 20mm)

I’d be more than happy to test this lens on both my K1 and K3iii.

nonpigliounoshoot · 06-30-2021, 02:51 AM - **1 Like**

the next news should be about this...

**willdmo** · 06-30-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by mlt

I’d be more than happy to test this lens on both my K1 and K3iii.

I did not use it on any overly critical stuff, but so far I am pleased with its performance

alamo5000 · 07-06-2021, 12:33 PM

I have not been following the ins and outs of things so sorry if this has been asked 900,000 times already. Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild?

Note: Par for the course is to get spotty (if any) communication from Ricoh but hopefully someone has some insights since I haven't been following.

biz-engineer · 07-06-2021, 12:37 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by alamo5000

Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild?

I don't know when that 21mm FF prime will be available. For me , if it's not sharp edge to edge, the release date doesn't matter, because I'm using the D-FA 15-30. For me, the D-FA 21 must be at least as good as the D-FA 15-30 @ 21mm.

**jatrax** · 07-06-2021, 01:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by alamo5000

Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild?

Don't think anyone really knows. However, there is a new thread hinting the new 16-50 will be released in August. Now whether that means the 21mm will be before or after that I don't know. If you want a guess I would say late fall for the 21mm. But that is merely a guess.

texandrews · 07-06-2021, 04:04 PM - **1 Like**

Something in the back of my mind seems to suggest that, before the winter holidays.

**Serkevan** · 07-06-2021, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by texandrews

Something in the back of my mind seems to suggest that, before the winter holidays.

The last thing I remember was OokU saying "2021 should be no problem"... apart from that, not really. I guess new news after the 16-50 is out?

Mistral75 · 07-06-2021, 04:28 PM - **1 Like**

We don't even know its max. aperture...

alamo5000 · 07-06-2021, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Don't think anyone really knows. However, there is a new thread hinting the new 16-50 will be released in August. Now whether that means the 21mm will be before or after that I don't know. If you want a guess I would say late fall for the 21mm. But that is merely a guess.

I know this is not the place for a long discussion but is that new 16-50 for crop sensors?

**TwoUptons** · 07-06-2021, 06:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by alamo5000

I know this is not the place for a long discussion but is that new 16-50 for crop sensors?

Yes. It is meant to replace the current DA*16-50 but with PLM (faster) focusing and optical improvements.
Should be awesome on the K3iii

-Eric

**Rondec** · 07-07-2021, 03:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I don't know when that 21mm FF prime will be available. For me , if it's not sharp edge to edge, the release date doesn't matter, because I'm using the D-FA 15-30. For me, the D-FA 21 must be at least as good as the D-FA 15-30 @ 21mm.

I doubt it will be sharper than the DFA 15-30. It will be a lot smaller, have better flare resistance, and have less distortion. The DFA 15-30 is a really nice lens, but it is also huge. This is the reason I would like to have a 20-ish mm prime -- it would just make packing a lot easier.

house · 07-07-2021, 03:13 AM - **1 Like**

Of all the qualities of a lens sharpness seems the least affected by going zoom. At least center sharpness. I have no statistics but recently this seems to be the case.

07-06-2021, 04:04 PM - 1 Like	#1449
texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,394	Wasn't there some kind of report about this fall? Something in the back of my mind seems to suggest that, before the winter holidays.

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06-19-2021, 07:13 AM	#1441
Ludwigvonkast Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Miami Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 32	Originally posted by nonpigliounoshoot I am of the same opinion, for me it is an incredible lens, unfortunately for now I can only mount it on apsc but one day maybe I will put it on k1. And I'll have to add 43 then or maybe I'll add it first Thanks for your comment. The reason that decided me to purchase this HD version was precisely the results I got with the 77mm Limited on my K1-II. I was impressed by the "cleanliness" of the image and the definition. One of the first surprises I got with the K1-II was using an old 300mm + the 1,4 extender: I was not prepared to see such an "improvement" in image quality with an old lens together with the extender. Until recently, I have been using a Pentax K3... but comparing the results of the K1-II the difference is from night into day!

06-21-2021, 11:42 AM	#1442
willdmo Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 389	Pentax gimme the lens (at least to test it out against my trusty FA 20mm)

06-21-2021, 12:10 PM	#1443
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by willdmo Pentax gimme the lens (at least to test it out against my trusty FA 20mm) I’d be more than happy to test this lens on both my K1 and K3iii.

06-30-2021, 02:51 AM - 1 Like	#1444
nonpigliounoshoot Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 735	the next news should be about this...

06-30-2021, 01:38 PM	#1445
willdmo Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 389	Originally posted by mlt I’d be more than happy to test this lens on both my K1 and K3iii. I did not use it on any overly critical stuff, but so far I am pleased with its performance

07-06-2021, 12:33 PM	#1446
alamo5000 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,962	I have not been following the ins and outs of things so sorry if this has been asked 900,000 times already. Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild? Note: Par for the course is to get spotty (if any) communication from Ricoh but hopefully someone has some insights since I haven't been following.

07-06-2021, 12:37 PM - 2 Likes	#1447
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	Originally posted by alamo5000 Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild? I don't know when that 21mm FF prime will be available. For me , if it's not sharp edge to edge, the release date doesn't matter, because I'm using the D-FA 15-30. For me, the D-FA 21 must be at least as good as the D-FA 15-30 @ 21mm.

07-06-2021, 01:28 PM - 1 Like	#1448
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by alamo5000 Does anyone have any idea when this lens might be released to the wild? Don't think anyone really knows. However, there is a new thread hinting the new 16-50 will be released in August. Now whether that means the 21mm will be before or after that I don't know. If you want a guess I would say late fall for the 21mm. But that is merely a guess.

07-06-2021, 04:23 PM	#1450
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by texandrews Something in the back of my mind seems to suggest that, before the winter holidays. The last thing I remember was OokU saying "2021 should be no problem"... apart from that, not really. I guess new news after the 16-50 is out?

07-06-2021, 04:28 PM - 1 Like	#1451
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	We don't even know its max. aperture...

07-06-2021, 05:41 PM	#1452
alamo5000 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,962	Originally posted by jatrax Don't think anyone really knows. However, there is a new thread hinting the new 16-50 will be released in August. Now whether that means the 21mm will be before or after that I don't know. If you want a guess I would say late fall for the 21mm. But that is merely a guess. I know this is not the place for a long discussion but is that new 16-50 for crop sensors?

07-06-2021, 06:19 PM - 1 Like	#1453
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,223	Originally posted by alamo5000 I know this is not the place for a long discussion but is that new 16-50 for crop sensors? Yes. It is meant to replace the current DA*16-50 but with PLM (faster) focusing and optical improvements. Should be awesome on the K3iii -Eric

07-07-2021, 03:02 AM - 1 Like	#1454
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	Originally posted by biz-engineer I don't know when that 21mm FF prime will be available. For me , if it's not sharp edge to edge, the release date doesn't matter, because I'm using the D-FA 15-30. For me, the D-FA 21 must be at least as good as the D-FA 15-30 @ 21mm. I doubt it will be sharper than the DFA 15-30. It will be a lot smaller, have better flare resistance, and have less distortion. The DFA 15-30 is a really nice lens, but it is also huge. This is the reason I would like to have a 20-ish mm prime -- it would just make packing a lot easier.

07-07-2021, 03:13 AM - 1 Like	#1455
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Of all the qualities of a lens sharpness seems the least affected by going zoom. At least center sharpness. I have no statistics but recently this seems to be the case.