HD Pentax DA * 16-50mm F2.8ED PLM AW is the second one.

**Yaki** · 04-09-2021, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

the DA*16-50 PLM's delay gives me some financial air to breathe... Just trying to look on the bright side.

Wim

I intend to adopt this point of view

Smolk · 04-11-2021, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by wkraus

Any primes up for sale soon?

Not yet, not soon, with the new zoom I'll wait for the reviews

BTW, Ricoh Europe lists two DA zooms as out of stock:

the DA* 2.8/16-50mm (expected, a new one is on the way)
the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm.

That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter.

**Serkevan** · 04-11-2021, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Smolk

Not yet, not soon, with the new zoom I'll wait for the reviews

BTW, Ricoh Europe lists two DA zooms as out of stock:

the DA* 2.8/16-50mm (expected, a new one is on the way)
the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm.

That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter.

It's probably that they've moved to producing the PLM only.

Smolk · 04-11-2021, 12:11 PM - **1 Like**

The Ricoh Imaging Europe homepage shows the K-3 III with the new DA* 2.8/16-50mm, so it may not be that far away from an announcement.
For reviews, it would have been great had they been released together.

**jatrax** · 04-11-2021, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Smolk

the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm.That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter.

No, the new zoom is 70ish - 300ish and FF, it will be a replacement for something like the old FA 80-320 or the Sigma 70-300 f/4-5.6. Old 55-300 likely discontinued in favor of the PLM model.

Ishpuini · 04-16-2021, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

The Ricoh Imaging Europe homepage shows the K-3 III with the new DA* 2.8/16-50mm, so it may not be that far away from an announcement.
For reviews, it would have been great had they been released together.

So it does. Hadn't realised that yet. I hope Ricoh will give me a month or so to buffer in the cost, but I do hope it will be released before summer. Fingers crossed.

Wim

house · 04-16-2021, 04:08 AM - **1 Like**

The da*1650 image has been used by quite a few sites for their k-3 III coverage. Teasing like that I a bit mean. ..

taktoon · 04-16-2021, 06:01 AM

Would be happy if this lens performance makes me regret buying DFA 24-70/2.8.

Smolk · 04-16-2021, 06:20 AM

It's a big lens so I would expect high performance. But I'm also possibly tempted by the DFA 50mm FF. I'll wait for user experiences...

**Serkevan** · 04-16-2021, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by house

The da*1650 image has been used by quite a few sites for their k-3 III coverage. Teasing like that I a bit mean. ..

It's probably almost ready to go, maybe there have also been delays related to the parts shortages?

reh321 · 04-16-2021, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

It's a big lens so I would expect high performance. But I'm also possibly tempted by the DFA 50mm FF. I'll wait for user experiences...

I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens.
In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses.

**caliscouser** · 04-16-2021, 08:50 AM

Is there any update on dimensions and weight for this lens? Sorry I haven't been paying too close attention.

Obviously it is bigger than the previous 16-50, just wondering how much difference.

Fantastic that they updated this lens, long overdue.

Smolk · 04-16-2021, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens.
In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses.

It's not far off the 77mm on FF, and a very useful distance for both portraits and landscape. I have several 50s and 55s too, but I don't have an APS-C camera (yet; here's waiting). But I also have 85mm/90mm and it's one of my most frequently used focal lengths.
That is true for FF, it was true for 645 (135/150mm).
But the secret agenda is, of course, that I might go FF with the K-1 III as well. Whether I'll be able to hold on to the K-3 III is uncertain. I can't find my lottery ticket.

STARHUNTER94 · 04-16-2021, 05:45 PM

I must admit that I'm getting a bit jumpy for this tn get released, even though I won't be able to afford one for a while. I want to know just how it performs!

**Serkevan** · 04-17-2021, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by reh321

I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens.
In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses.

Curiously, I'm the other way around... I loved the mild telephoto 50mm on APS-C, but I never really got into it for FF... I find the 43mm far more practical than the 50mm, somehow.

Explains why I love the 77mm on the K-1, I guess

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04-09-2021, 01:14 PM	#346
Yaki Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Sofia Posts: 948	Originally posted by Ishpuini the DA*16-50 PLM's delay gives me some financial air to breathe... Just trying to look on the bright side. Wim I intend to adopt this point of view

04-11-2021, 12:04 PM	#347
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by wkraus Any primes up for sale soon? Not yet, not soon, with the new zoom I'll wait for the reviews BTW, Ricoh Europe lists two DA zooms as out of stock: the DA* 2.8/16-50mm (expected, a new one is on the way) the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm. That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter.

04-11-2021, 12:07 PM	#348
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Smolk Not yet, not soon, with the new zoom I'll wait for the reviews BTW, Ricoh Europe lists two DA zooms as out of stock: the DA* 2.8/16-50mm (expected, a new one is on the way) the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm. That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter. It's probably that they've moved to producing the PLM only.

04-11-2021, 12:11 PM - 1 Like	#349
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	The Ricoh Imaging Europe homepage shows the K-3 III with the new DA* 2.8/16-50mm, so it may not be that far away from an announcement. For reviews, it would have been great had they been released together.

04-11-2021, 02:19 PM	#350
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Smolk the DA 4-5.8/55-300mm.That new zoom lens on the roadmap may well be a replacement for the latter. No, the new zoom is 70ish - 300ish and FF, it will be a replacement for something like the old FA 80-320 or the Sigma 70-300 f/4-5.6. Old 55-300 likely discontinued in favor of the PLM model.

04-16-2021, 03:24 AM	#351
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Smolk The Ricoh Imaging Europe homepage shows the K-3 III with the new DA* 2.8/16-50mm, so it may not be that far away from an announcement. For reviews, it would have been great had they been released together. So it does. Hadn't realised that yet. I hope Ricoh will give me a month or so to buffer in the cost, but I do hope it will be released before summer. Fingers crossed. Wim

04-16-2021, 04:08 AM - 1 Like	#352
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	The da*1650 image has been used by quite a few sites for their k-3 III coverage. Teasing like that I a bit mean. ..

04-16-2021, 06:01 AM	#353
taktoon Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 605	Would be happy if this lens performance makes me regret buying DFA 24-70/2.8.

04-16-2021, 06:20 AM	#354
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	It's a big lens so I would expect high performance. But I'm also possibly tempted by the DFA 50mm FF. I'll wait for user experiences...

04-16-2021, 06:47 AM	#355
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by house The da*1650 image has been used by quite a few sites for their k-3 III coverage. Teasing like that I a bit mean. .. It's probably almost ready to go, maybe there have also been delays related to the parts shortages?

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04-16-2021, 08:43 AM	#356
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Smolk It's a big lens so I would expect high performance. But I'm also possibly tempted by the DFA 50mm FF. I'll wait for user experiences... I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens. In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses.

04-16-2021, 08:50 AM	#357
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	Is there any update on dimensions and weight for this lens? Sorry I haven't been paying too close attention. Obviously it is bigger than the previous 16-50, just wondering how much difference. Fantastic that they updated this lens, long overdue.

04-16-2021, 10:36 AM	#358
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by reh321 I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens. In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses. It's not far off the 77mm on FF, and a very useful distance for both portraits and landscape. I have several 50s and 55s too, but I don't have an APS-C camera (yet; here's waiting). But I also have 85mm/90mm and it's one of my most frequently used focal lengths. That is true for FF, it was true for 645 (135/150mm). But the secret agenda is, of course, that I might go FF with the K-1 III as well. Whether I'll be able to hold on to the K-3 III is uncertain. I can't find my lottery ticket.

04-16-2021, 05:45 PM	#359
STARHUNTER94 Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 771	I must admit that I'm getting a bit jumpy for this tn get released, even though I won't be able to afford one for a while. I want to know just how it performs!

04-17-2021, 03:33 AM	#360
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by reh321 I'm not tempted at all by a mildly telephoto lens for "APS-C" - there is a reason DFA* 50 is a "FF" lens. In fact, I'm not even entering Adam's "raffle" - I already have at least five unused 50mm lenses. Curiously, I'm the other way around... I loved the mild telephoto 50mm on APS-C, but I never really got into it for FF... I find the 43mm far more practical than the 50mm, somehow. Explains why I love the 77mm on the K-1, I guess