HD Pentax DA * 16-50mm F2.8ED PLM AW is the second one.

thibs · 04-25-2021, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by FozzFoster

I'm hoping it's reasonable too. The current 16-50 goes for $1069.95 CAD...
https://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0271744

This one probably will go down in price (somewhat)

thibs · 04-25-2021, 02:31 AM

IMO silver lenses on black bodies is the prettiest combination but that's.just me of course.

**FozzFoster** · 04-25-2021, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by thibs

This one probably will go down in price (somewhat)

The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P

**Rondec** · 04-25-2021, 02:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P

Yes, I'd probably wait on the new one. I own the old version and since I'm mostly a full frame shooter now, it is adequate, but it does have some weaknesses optically, flares quite a bit, and then of course there is the SDM (slow and prone to failure). Even if you could get an old version for half price of a new one, it's probably worth it in the long run to go with version II.

STARHUNTER94 · 04-25-2021, 06:44 PM

Yeah I think if you show me something that's seriously superior I'd rather have 1-2 lenses that blow my mind than 10 that I'm only somewhat happy with.

thibs · 04-25-2021, 10:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P

Agreed although it remains to be seen (I don't think it has been stated yet) if this is a KAF3 or KAF4 lens.
IMO this should be KAF4. In this case, your K5 will be annoyed.

Ishpuini · 04-25-2021, 11:53 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P

I understand this completely, but I'm hoping for an improvement in IQ much more. After all, I always managed to manually focus my DA*16-50 every time the SDM played up, and conversion to screw drive worked fine when SDM finally gave up entirely. As such focus was never a blocking issue for me and I always got the shot. Though from an IQ PoV the DA*16-50 always left me slightly short of expectations...

Wim

bdery · 04-26-2021, 04:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TwoUptons

We’re in that uncomfortable time when we can look neither through it nor at it

But we're looking FOR it.

**Yaki** · 04-26-2021, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by bdery

But we're looking FOR it.

Exactly !!! Very well said

STARHUNTER94 · 04-26-2021, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

I understand this completely, but I'm hoping for an improvement in IQ much more. After all, I always managed to manually focus my DA*16-50 every time the SDM played up, and conversion to screw drive worked fine when SDM finally gave up entirely. As such focus was never a blocking issue for me and I always got the shot. Though from an IQ PoV the DA*16-50 always left me slightly short of expectations...

Wim

With this one I'm hoping to find this one totally the opposite. Hopefully the product blows me away at times.

Ishpuini · 04-26-2021, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by STARHUNTER94

With this one I'm hoping to find this one totally the opposite. Hopefully the product blows me away at times.

Who knows. Going from the last DA* release (the DA*11-18) it seems justified to have high expectations. Time will tell, but I'll already be happy to see improvements compared to my old DA*16-50's original performance when new.

Wim

thibs · 04-27-2021, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Who knows. Going from the last DA* release (the DA*11-18) it seems justified to have high expectations. Time will tell, but I'll already be happy to see improvements compared to my old DA*16-50's original performance when new.

Wim

Yep, IMO this new lens will be completely different and quite better. Not perfect but a lot more up to its *

Smolk · 04-27-2021, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I'm looking forward to the DA * pinhole lens, retailing for 650 dollars.

Here's my one attempt at a pinhole photo (I believe I laid down in the cornfield for a quarter of an hour or so)

bdery · 04-27-2021, 05:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Smolk

Here's my one attempt at a pinhole photo (I believe I laid down in the cornfield for a quarter of an hour or so)

That's actually pretty cool. When do adults take the time to look at clouds to see shapes?

GordyD · 04-28-2021, 10:29 AM

Do we know when the 16-50 PLM is supposed to be available? The press release only included an awkwardly worded statement saying it will be released in 2021, but it looked like they meant to include additional info at least about which quarter of 2021 it would be released.

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04-25-2021, 02:30 AM	#466
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by FozzFoster I'm hoping it's reasonable too. The current 16-50 goes for $1069.95 CAD... https://www.mcbaincamera.com/productdetail.php?mcbain_id=0271744 This one probably will go down in price (somewhat)

04-25-2021, 02:31 AM	#467
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	IMO silver lenses on black bodies is the prettiest combination but that's.just me of course.

04-25-2021, 06:37 AM	#468
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by thibs This one probably will go down in price (somewhat) The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P

04-25-2021, 02:32 PM - 1 Like	#469
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by FozzFoster The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P Yes, I'd probably wait on the new one. I own the old version and since I'm mostly a full frame shooter now, it is adequate, but it does have some weaknesses optically, flares quite a bit, and then of course there is the SDM (slow and prone to failure). Even if you could get an old version for half price of a new one, it's probably worth it in the long run to go with version II.

04-25-2021, 06:44 PM	#470
STARHUNTER94 Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 771	Yeah I think if you show me something that's seriously superior I'd rather have 1-2 lenses that blow my mind than 10 that I'm only somewhat happy with.

04-25-2021, 10:55 PM - 1 Like	#471
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by FozzFoster The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P Agreed although it remains to be seen (I don't think it has been stated yet) if this is a KAF3 or KAF4 lens. IMO this should be KAF4. In this case, your K5 will be annoyed.

04-25-2021, 11:53 PM - 1 Like	#472
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by FozzFoster The SDM on this guy really has me put off. It would have to be an incredible deal for me to pay for an old 16-50 instead of the 16-50 PLM once it's released :P I understand this completely, but I'm hoping for an improvement in IQ much more. After all, I always managed to manually focus my DA16-50 every time the SDM played up, and conversion to screw drive worked fine when SDM finally gave up entirely. As such focus was never a blocking issue for me and I always got the shot. Though from an IQ PoV the DA16-50 always left me slightly short of expectations... Wim

04-26-2021, 04:44 AM - 1 Like	#473
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362	Originally posted by TwoUptons We’re in that uncomfortable time when we can look neither through it nor at it But we're looking FOR it.

04-26-2021, 04:55 AM	#474
Yaki Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Sofia Posts: 953	Originally posted by bdery But we're looking FOR it. Exactly !!! Very well said

04-26-2021, 06:27 PM	#475
STARHUNTER94 Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 771	Originally posted by Ishpuini I understand this completely, but I'm hoping for an improvement in IQ much more. After all, I always managed to manually focus my DA16-50 every time the SDM played up, and conversion to screw drive worked fine when SDM finally gave up entirely. As such focus was never a blocking issue for me and I always got the shot. Though from an IQ PoV the DA16-50 always left me slightly short of expectations... Wim With this one I'm hoping to find this one totally the opposite. Hopefully the product blows me away at times.

04-26-2021, 11:42 PM	#476
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by STARHUNTER94 With this one I'm hoping to find this one totally the opposite. Hopefully the product blows me away at times. Who knows. Going from the last DA* release (the DA11-18) it seems justified to have high expectations. Time will tell, but I'll already be happy to see improvements compared to my old DA16-50's original performance when new. Wim

04-27-2021, 02:27 AM	#477
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Ishpuini Who knows. Going from the last DA* release (the DA11-18) it seems justified to have high expectations. Time will tell, but I'll already be happy to see improvements compared to my old DA16-50's original performance when new. Wim Yep, IMO this new lens will be completely different and quite better. Not perfect but a lot more up to its *

04-27-2021, 02:55 AM	#478
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by Rondec I'm looking forward to the DA * pinhole lens, retailing for 650 dollars. Here's my one attempt at a pinhole photo (I believe I laid down in the cornfield for a quarter of an hour or so)

04-27-2021, 05:52 AM - 1 Like	#479
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362	Originally posted by Smolk Here's my one attempt at a pinhole photo (I believe I laid down in the cornfield for a quarter of an hour or so) That's actually pretty cool. When do adults take the time to look at clouds to see shapes?

04-28-2021, 10:29 AM	#480
GordyD New Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1	Do we know when the 16-50 PLM is supposed to be available? The press release only included an awkwardly worded statement saying it will be released in 2021, but it looked like they meant to include additional info at least about which quarter of 2021 it would be released.