Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Closed Thread
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
05-16-2020, 01:52 PM - 3 Likes   #226
Pentaxian




Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 470
As a K-1 user, I already have a camera for low angle shots. If the K-new doesn't have a tilting screen, but is great for shooting action, then I won't complain about it if I were to add it to my kit.

Horses for courses.

05-16-2020, 01:53 PM   #227
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 13,165
QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
And the guy who handled it? He was seeing things too?

Now you're just getting offensive. Saying "those people" cost Don Cherry a job he'd held for 40 years.

Those people who keep saying "hey look, there's that thing that doesn't exist again" probably won't ever use the tilt screen if it's there. They're so convinced they are right.

How stupid do you want to get with this?

Making up nonsense to discredit people who don't agree with you doesn't really help your argument. It just makes you look desperate.
The guy who handled it saw the reality, obviously. He said:
"The camera was on display today in the Netherlands. Fixed screen as I saw it"

The incredible amount of reality denial that's going on is quite exasperating. The fact that people still believe it's debatable, on the prototypes shown. Ignoring all images but those with "favourable" angles - and even so, they have to imagine things.
And you say I look desperate?

Sorry, I don't want to be rude. But all the necessary proof was presented, several times, and completely ignored.

Last edited by Kunzite; 05-16-2020 at 01:59 PM.
05-16-2020, 01:56 PM - 5 Likes   #228
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Jun 2013
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 323
Fixed screen

Though I am very pleased with the screen on the K-1, please check the photos below. There really isn't a catch at the bottom to release the screen...
Attached Images
   
05-16-2020, 02:01 PM - 4 Likes   #229
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
luftfluss's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NJ
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,581
QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
SO if they've already built in a negative, a really useful one, what are they going to do to get us back to even Steven. SO far I has a strike against it, in all probability.

Does anyone actually believe they can improve the AF, the output pipeline, the time to clear the buffer, the FPS without significant added cost, a lot more system speed, some dedicated chips, meaning some significant cost increases?

They seem confident they have something... but in the models since the K-3 they have gone to smaller buffers, less FPS, slower throughput, with marginally improved AF. I'm mystified as to what they have they think will make it possible to remove features and still sell the camera.
Don't all cameras have at least one shortcoming that makes people think, "Why didn't they..."?

To me, the thing that gets us back to "even Steven" is the 1.05x OVF. I don't know how often I articulated it on this forum, but since the development of a new APS-C camera was announced I have been thinking that the killer feature for me would be a better OVF, but I thought they would not actually do it. But they did.

In retrospect, I can even see how Ricoh foreshadowed this. In their interview with Dave Etchells of Imaging-Resource last year, the Ricoh rep emphasized the experience of looking through an OVF, and how that experience would lead some folks who migrated to MILC back to DSLR. It leads one to wonder what is in store for the K-1 II successor...

Another feature I'm hoping for: a softer, smoother-sounding shutter. My K-5 II sounded sublime. I can't say that the shutter in my K-3 II is necessarily louder, but it definitely does not sound as refined.

I'm on team I Want An Articulating LCD, but I actually rank the larger OVF and smoother shutter as things that appeal to me more.

05-16-2020, 02:10 PM - 1 Like   #230
Pentaxian
Belnan's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Photos: Albums
Posts: 809
It seems that Ricoh wants to make best DSLRs, since that's all they do they do in this format why not. I wonder what other little surprises there might be besides the optical VF.
05-16-2020, 02:10 PM   #231
Pentaxian




Join Date: Feb 2016
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 497
The K-new has a fixed screen. Reason being ergonomics.

A movable screen takes up more room and as a consequence it compromises the button layout of the ASP-C sized camera. This is less of a problem with the K-1 as it is a larger camera. The K-new also has to accommodate a focus point adjustment control.

It is designed for quick and dynamic uses such as sports and birding etc.

For more agricultural applications such as macro etc, Ricoh provide a large range of camera options with movable screens.

Take your pick!
05-16-2020, 02:13 PM   #232
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Jersey C.I.
Posts: 789
OK ... well I'm prepared to accept the K-'new' may not have a flip-screen ... but please, what function could the little recess in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen serve other than a "catch-point" for a finger-nail?? It's been obvious (to me) since the initially-released pictures, but I can't think what other purpose it would serve.
Attached Images
 
05-16-2020, 02:18 PM - 2 Likes   #233
Pentaxian
bertwert's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Golden, BC
Posts: 13,445
QuoteOriginally posted by kypfer Quote
OK ... well I'm prepared to accept the K-'new' may not have a flip-screen ... but please, what function could the little recess in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen serve other than a "catch-point" for a finger-nail?? It's been obvious (to me) since the initially-released pictures, but I can't think what other purpose it would serve.
It's not a 'catch-point' it's not a magic flippy screen. It's been pointed out time after time that it's the drop from the raised side with buttons to the screen. Maybe you've got the perspective wrong, that's the top corner of the screen, not the bottom corner....

05-16-2020, 02:19 PM - 2 Likes   #234
Pentaxian




Join Date: Feb 2016
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 497
QuoteOriginally posted by kypfer Quote
but I can't think what other purpose it would serve.
That is where the body contours. It is the transition between the dead flat touch screen and the curved body. The body curves up to the next level where the controls are.
Check out the rear windscreen on cars. They often do the same.


Last edited by BROO; 05-16-2020 at 02:37 PM.
05-16-2020, 02:22 PM - 2 Likes   #235
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
luftfluss's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NJ
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,581
It's a design remant from the hinge of the originally-planned tilting LCD screen.




05-16-2020, 02:23 PM   #236
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Jersey C.I.
Posts: 789
QuoteOriginally posted by bertwert Quote
It's not a 'catch-point' it's not a magic flippy screen. It's been pointed out time after time that it's the drop from the raised side with buttons to the screen. Maybe you've got the perspective wrong, that's the top corner of the screen, not the bottom corner....
You're probably right ... I often get the perspective wrong ... but what is the little feature in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen for?

---------- Post added 05-16-20 at 02:24 PM ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
It's a design remant from the hinge of the originally-planned tilting LCD screen.

That could be it !!
05-16-2020, 02:28 PM - 6 Likes   #237
Pentaxian
bertwert's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Golden, BC
Posts: 13,445
QuoteOriginally posted by kypfer Quote
You're probably right ... I often get the perspective wrong ... but what is the little feature in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen for?
There isn't one!

Maybe these labels will help, do you see how it's stepped up from the screen to where the buttons are?


05-16-2020, 02:29 PM   #238
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
AggieDad's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Houston, TX
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 882
I have seen a few mentions of a touch screen, and I have to ask, "Is this a good thing?"

It seems my screen already gets plenty smeary from just touching my face when I am using the viewfinder. Why do I want to add to that by trying to touch buttons on the screen as though it were my iPhone?

I know I am old, but I am always open to new technology and techniques. But I need help understanding the benefits of a touch screen.
05-16-2020, 02:30 PM - 3 Likes   #239
Pentaxian
bertwert's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Golden, BC
Posts: 13,445
QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
It's a design remant from the hinge of the originally-planned tilting LCD screen.




05-16-2020, 02:33 PM   #240
Pentaxian
bertwert's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Golden, BC
Posts: 13,445
QuoteOriginally posted by AggieDad Quote
I have seen a few mentions of a touch screen, and I have to ask, "Is this a good thing?"

It seems my screen already gets plenty smeary from just touching my face when I am using the viewfinder. Why do I want to add to that by trying to touch buttons on the screen as though it were my iPhone?

I know I am old, but I am always open to new technology and techniques. But I need help understanding the benefits of a touch screen.
I don't see any benefits to a touch screen either, but it doesn't harm if it can be permanently turned off and still be able to do everything easily with the buttons, like Pentax as we know it.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
*ist, af, aps-c, body, camera, cameras, canon, ds, hobby, improvements, length, lens, life, magnification, nikon, pentax, pentax af, pentax news, pentax rumors, people, post, quality, ricoh, screen, system, systems, tele, viewfinder
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New flagship APS-C may be delayed to release after summer Karen the Star Pentax News and Rumors 16 01-03-2020 02:14 AM
New Sony APS-C Sensor - 26MP FozzFoster Pentax News and Rumors 1219 10-31-2019 03:59 AM
Sony Global Shutter APS-C and MFT - New Sensors Winder Non-Pentax Cameras: Canon, Nikon, etc. 8 09-09-2018 10:46 AM
IQ of FF vs APS-C primes on APS-C bodies lightbox Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 26 11-10-2016 06:50 PM
When is an APS-C lens not really an APS-C? lightbox Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 17 03-27-2015 07:45 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:20 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top