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05-29-2020, 10:46 AM - 3 Likes   #76
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I am simply glad HD Pentax-D FA* 85mm F1.4 SDM AW has been released. People always complain about the price whether it's $249 Samyang or $2,000 Pentax D FA*. I always wanted to have a quality lens similar to Nikon or Canon 85mm and finally my patience paid off... and I am having something which might last me. I keep looking at the samples and I am sure just like it's elder brother HD Pentax-D FA* 50mm F1.4 SDM AW it will make me go out and explore the world.

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The 21 Limited will cost 1/2 what the *85 costs.
The European RRP of the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited is €1,499. The D FA 21mm Limited won't be any cheaper than its smaller brother.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
Probably more than half - I don't see it at 999 €/$. I also don't see it over 1500, though.
6 months later...1789,99€. Darn. But it is still cheaper than a DFA*85! I hope I have the DFA* by then.
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Poor Pentax, the amount of opprobrium they have generated because they delivered a lens that their user base specifically asked for, is astonishing for me personally and must be utterly confusing for Pentax Japan. We have seen here and elsewhere complaints about price, weight, size, too much resolution, etc, etc. All we need now is to anoint this lens as the harbringer of the long expected doom of Pentax.
Can I give this (and the rest) another 30 likes?

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Dont buy that lense
Thanks for the advice.

I considered it and ... will buy one.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
Thanks for the advice.

I considered it and ... will buy one.
NOT a advise, My opinion.
Good luck
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QuoteOriginally posted by Riddler Quote
NOT a advise, My opinion.
Good luck
So your opinion is that we shouldn't buy the lens?
Or it's just poor English?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
So your opinion is that we shouldn't buy the lens?
Or it's just poor English?
Bad english
I Dont buy the lense
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Anyone care to suggest why the lens might better the FA 77mm Limited, especially for portraits - on FF?

I'm not in anyway trying to stir things up, but I'm curious. Of course any comments are subjective and apart from facts are just opinions. So why?

It will be heavier. It is faster. It will likely be sharper across frame, though whether this is and advantage or disadvantage is a moot point. It will probably have better flare resistance. It will be quieter. It may focus quicker, though my 77 is plenty fast enough for the moving portraits I tend to use it for. It will be a lot more expensive. It will look like a new lens. None of these, for me, seem like they will persuade me it is a sufficiently "better" lens than the 77. I find it an odd decision to build this focal length, when perhaps a wide lens seems more necessary for the range. Maybe someone will fill in what I'm missing.

Really I'm just curious ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by AfterPentax Quote
Quality used to come from Japan. Do not think that Ricoh is doing the right thing: They do not give you what you want, but the customer gives Ricoh what they want, money. "When I was young" Pentax was the camera that was more affordable than any other brand. Ricoh/Pentax is not that affordable anymore, although I can afford it now. It seems that I have to use up the equipment I now have and either look elsewhere or just find another pastime with or without good company.
Your comment makes no sense at all.

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I find it an odd decision to build this focal length, when perhaps a wide lens seems more necessary for the range. Maybe someone will fill in what I'm missing.
You are missing the fact that :

Pentax largest market is in Japan (bigger than the rest of the world combined)

Pentax asked the Japanese users what they wanted, and the answer was fast, star quality primes, especially this focal length.

Pentax have given their consumers what they wanted.

Too often manufacturers are accused of ignoring existing customers to try out a new product line. Well, not this time.

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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
Anyone care to suggest why the lens might better the FA 77mm Limited, especially for portraits - on FF?

I'm not in anyway trying to stir things up, but I'm curious. Of course any comments are subjective and apart from facts are just opinions. So why?

It will be heavier. It is faster. It will likely be sharper across frame, though whether this is and advantage or disadvantage is a moot point. It will probably have better flare resistance. It will be quieter. It may focus quicker, though my 77 is plenty fast enough for the moving portraits I tend to use it for. It will be a lot more expensive. It will look like a new lens. None of these, for me, seem like they will persuade me it is a sufficiently "better" lens than the 77. I find it an odd decision to build this focal length, when perhaps a wide lens seems more necessary for the range. Maybe someone will fill in what I'm missing.

Really I'm just curious ...
Less PF wide open, slightly different perspective.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
The European RRP of the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited is €1,499. The D FA 21mm Limited won't be any cheaper than its smaller brother.
FA31/1.8 Limited is $1,096 retail in the USA. I might pay +/- $2,000 for the DFA*85/1.4 but I probably would not pay more than $1,099 for the DFA21/x Limited.
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^ If so, be prepared to wait 'a bit' after its launch before being able to buy it.
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Anyone care to suggest why the lens might better the FA 77mm Limited, especially for portraits - on FF?
Even the 77mm would be wasted on me, but here's one reason: well controlled CA. The development team talks about CA impacting skin tones.
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Even the 77mm would be wasted on me, but here's one reason: well controlled CA. The development team talks about CA impacting skin tones.
That's an interesting point. Can't say I've ever noticed CA how I use my 77. Wonder if I'm not looking close enough?
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