DFA 85mm f/1.4 Now on Ricoh's Website

**Rondec** · 06-03-2020, 03:22 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by house

That was part of my point.

There is a significant difference in old ff lineup. It makes no sense playing this down. They sell/sold an awful lot more gear, had more products and crucially came out with ff glass during the whole period of the last 20 years.

The switch to milc puts all that glass in a different market. That space is very sparsely populated in pentax land.

This might be good for Pentax but could squeeze pentaxians.

I guess I see the FA limiteds, DFA 100 macro, FA 50, DFA 35 HD, and DFA 28-105 as all being reasonably priced and decent lenses in the current catalog. The FA lenses from past years can fill in gaps as well and are really nice lenses. You can get the FA * 80-200 for 700 dollars, which is very reasonable for a high quality lens. I bought an FA 135 f2.8 for 300-ish dollars last year and it is a very nice lens. Fast auto focus, sharp wide open. Acting as though lenses from the 90s aren't worth buying misses the point of keeping the mount the same.

house · 06-03-2020, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I guess I see the FA limiteds, DFA 100 macro, FA 50, DFA 35 HD, and DFA 28-105 as all being reasonably priced and decent lenses in the current catalog. The FA lenses from past years can fill in gaps as well and are really nice lenses. You can get the FA * 80-200 for 700 dollars, which is very reasonable for a high quality lens. I bought an FA 135 f2.8 for 300-ish dollars last year and it is a very nice lens. Fast auto focus, sharp wide open. Acting as though lenses from the 90s aren't worth buying misses the point of keeping the mount the same.

I have two fa lenses 50 and 35 and they are fine for my usecase. Stopped down for architecture and more open for the family shots. But again the middle between screwdrive 90s lenses and absolute state of the art is missing (in primes).

It was just an observation. When it becomes a multi post discussion it always seem more negative than the initial post because one has to flesh out all the negative sides to explain oneself.

Kunzite · 06-03-2020, 03:33 AM - **8 Likes**

The problem is not a complete lack of lenses (worth buying or whatever), but that Pentax had a "time gap" when they didn't update their FAs.
Yes, you can get an old Canon with ring-type USM while for Pentax this type of motor is a recent addition. And tons of older optics designed for digital.

But, my D FA kit is almost complete, and my next lens will (most likely) be a Pentax D FA* 21mm, rather than - say - a Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM. And I might get the D FA* 85mm some day.

Anyway, this isn't a proper subject for a thread dedicated to the new, amazing lens Pentax just announced. There's nothing Ricoh Imaging could do to "fix" the past... but they're working on the future.

bedisaab · 06-03-2020, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The problem is not a complete lack of lenses (worth buying or whatever), but that Pentax had a "time gap" when they didn't update their FAs.
Yes, you can get an old Canon with ring-type USM while for Pentax this type of motor is a recent addition. And tons of older optics designed for digital.

But, my D FA kit is almost complete, and my next lens will (most likely) be a Pentax D FA* 21mm, rather than - say - a Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM. And I might get the D FA* 85mm some day.

Anyway, this isn't a proper subject for a thread dedicated to the new, amazing lens Pentax just announced. There's nothing Ricoh Imaging could do to "fix" the past... but they're working on the future.

So if I’m right there will be HD Ltd 21 f/3.5 (or something) & DFA*24mm f/1.4? If it’s true... it’s great ��

stillshot2 · 06-03-2020, 01:14 PM - **4 Likes**

Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg
And this is at f1.4!

Parallax · 06-03-2020, 02:09 PM

Now THAT'S impressive!

Mistral75 · 06-03-2020, 03:43 PM - **8 Likes**

Originally posted by stillshot2

Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg
And this is at f1.4!

Pff. It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness.

Parallax · 06-03-2020, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness.

LOL

**clackers** · 06-03-2020, 08:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stillshot2

Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg
And this is at f1.4!

When I posted this in a Pentax Facebook group, someone said I had a vivid imagination.

Of course, they are a modern person, viewing everything re-rendered on a little phone.

For their benefit, I did a zoomed in screenshot of the right eye.

**BruceBanner** · 06-03-2020, 09:04 PM - **2 Likes**

It's 'Throwback Thursday' today and this just so happened to be the image I chose to 'throw' up;

This was taken with the Samyang 85/1.4 at f1.6 I believe. There was a lot of CA mess in the ocean that even after a tidy up is still problematic. Not even going to mention how tricky nailing f1.6 on a target this far away was, I should imagine DFA 85 owners will be very happy to get vastly superior results both in execution as well as PP.

Wheatfield · 06-03-2020, 11:16 PM - **1 Like**

The best information I am getting from my local store is a late June delivery. I wish she could be a bit more specific, but so it goes. Ricoh is being rather tight lipped about it.

Mistral75 · 06-04-2020, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

The best information I am getting from my local store is a late June delivery. I wish she could be a bit more specific, but so it goes. Ricoh is being rather tight lipped about it.

According to Ricoh the HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 ED SDM AW will be available on the 26th of June. The HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW was available a couple of days before ETA in some countries.

H. Sapiens · 06-04-2020, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by stillshot2

Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg
And this is at f1.4!

You know, if they were smart they would use it creatively - let the assistant in the photo hold a big cut out unicorn or something (a Blade Runner reference, but it could be anything).

Now, I'm just counting the models blackheads.

normhead · 06-04-2020, 09:23 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

Pff. It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness.

Do they have any one eye in focus images for us?

Kunzite · 06-04-2020, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Do they have any one eye in focus images for us?

Lol. Take a look at the image stillshot2 was linking.

06-03-2020, 03:33 AM - 8 Likes	#363
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The problem is not a complete lack of lenses (worth buying or whatever), but that Pentax had a "time gap" when they didn't update their FAs. Yes, you can get an old Canon with ring-type USM while for Pentax this type of motor is a recent addition. And tons of older optics designed for digital. But, my D FA kit is almost complete, and my next lens will (most likely) be a Pentax D FA* 21mm, rather than - say - a Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM. And I might get the D FA* 85mm some day. Anyway, this isn't a proper subject for a thread dedicated to the new, amazing lens Pentax just announced. There's nothing Ricoh Imaging could do to "fix" the past... but they're working on the future. Last edited by Kunzite; 06-03-2020 at 03:59 AM. Reason: corrected typo

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06-03-2020, 03:22 AM - 4 Likes	#361
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,651	Originally posted by house That was part of my point. There is a significant difference in old ff lineup. It makes no sense playing this down. They sell/sold an awful lot more gear, had more products and crucially came out with ff glass during the whole period of the last 20 years. The switch to milc puts all that glass in a different market. That space is very sparsely populated in pentax land. This might be good for Pentax but could squeeze pentaxians. I guess I see the FA limiteds, DFA 100 macro, FA 50, DFA 35 HD, and DFA 28-105 as all being reasonably priced and decent lenses in the current catalog. The FA lenses from past years can fill in gaps as well and are really nice lenses. You can get the FA * 80-200 for 700 dollars, which is very reasonable for a high quality lens. I bought an FA 135 f2.8 for 300-ish dollars last year and it is a very nice lens. Fast auto focus, sharp wide open. Acting as though lenses from the 90s aren't worth buying misses the point of keeping the mount the same.

06-03-2020, 03:30 AM	#362
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Rondec I guess I see the FA limiteds, DFA 100 macro, FA 50, DFA 35 HD, and DFA 28-105 as all being reasonably priced and decent lenses in the current catalog. The FA lenses from past years can fill in gaps as well and are really nice lenses. You can get the FA * 80-200 for 700 dollars, which is very reasonable for a high quality lens. I bought an FA 135 f2.8 for 300-ish dollars last year and it is a very nice lens. Fast auto focus, sharp wide open. Acting as though lenses from the 90s aren't worth buying misses the point of keeping the mount the same. I have two fa lenses 50 and 35 and they are fine for my usecase. Stopped down for architecture and more open for the family shots. But again the middle between screwdrive 90s lenses and absolute state of the art is missing (in primes). It was just an observation. When it becomes a multi post discussion it always seem more negative than the initial post because one has to flesh out all the negative sides to explain oneself.

06-03-2020, 09:56 AM	#364
bedisaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 118	Originally posted by Kunzite The problem is not a complete lack of lenses (worth buying or whatever), but that Pentax had a "time gap" when they didn't update their FAs. Yes, you can get an old Canon with ring-type USM while for Pentax this type of motor is a recent addition. And tons of older optics designed for digital. But, my D FA kit is almost complete, and my next lens will (most likely) be a Pentax D FA* 21mm, rather than - say - a Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM. And I might get the D FA* 85mm some day. Anyway, this isn't a proper subject for a thread dedicated to the new, amazing lens Pentax just announced. There's nothing Ricoh Imaging could do to "fix" the past... but they're working on the future. So if I’m right there will be HD Ltd 21 f/3.5 (or something) & DFA*24mm f/1.4? If it’s true... it’s great ��

06-03-2020, 01:14 PM - 4 Likes	#365
stillshot2 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Albums Posts: 1,070	Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg And this is at f1.4!

06-03-2020, 02:09 PM	#366
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Now THAT'S impressive!

06-03-2020, 03:43 PM - 8 Likes	#367
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by stillshot2 Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg And this is at f1.4! Pff. It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness.

06-03-2020, 03:52 PM	#368
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Mistral75 It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness. LOL

06-03-2020, 08:48 PM - 1 Like	#369
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by stillshot2 Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg And this is at f1.4! When I posted this in a Pentax Facebook group, someone said I had a vivid imagination. Of course, they are a modern person, viewing everything re-rendered on a little phone. For their benefit, I did a zoomed in screenshot of the right eye.

06-03-2020, 09:04 PM - 2 Likes	#370
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404	It's 'Throwback Thursday' today and this just so happened to be the image I chose to 'throw' up; This was taken with the Samyang 85/1.4 at f1.6 I believe. There was a lot of CA mess in the ocean that even after a tidy up is still problematic. Not even going to mention how tricky nailing f1.6 on a target this far away was, I should imagine DFA 85 owners will be very happy to get vastly superior results both in execution as well as PP.

06-03-2020, 11:16 PM - 1 Like	#371
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,977	The best information I am getting from my local store is a late June delivery. I wish she could be a bit more specific, but so it goes. Ricoh is being rather tight lipped about it.

06-04-2020, 01:42 AM	#372
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Wheatfield The best information I am getting from my local store is a late June delivery. I wish she could be a bit more specific, but so it goes. Ricoh is being rather tight lipped about it. According to Ricoh the HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 ED SDM AW will be available on the 26th of June. The HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW was available a couple of days before ETA in some countries.

06-04-2020, 09:03 AM	#373
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 327	Originally posted by stillshot2 Wow zoomed in I can see the whole studio in this model's pupil: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-df...g/ex-pic01.jpg And this is at f1.4! You know, if they were smart they would use it creatively - let the assistant in the photo hold a big cut out unicorn or something (a Blade Runner reference, but it could be anything). Now, I'm just counting the models blackheads.

06-04-2020, 09:23 AM - 1 Like	#374
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Mistral75 Pff. It's in the centre and gives no indication of corner sharpness. Do they have any one eye in focus images for us?

06-04-2020, 09:26 AM	#375
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by normhead Do they have any one eye in focus images for us? Lol. Take a look at the image stillshot2 was linking.

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