Originally posted by dbs Hi Clackers
Way out of my price range ..... if I win lotto .... well
Just strange it is not listed yet on the Aus Ricoh site .
Dave
Originally posted by Wheatfield No attacks. I'm just wondering what the point is of showing pictures taken at f/8 when the discussion is about pictures taken at f/1.4?
I get that you don't like the style of photography shown, but this isn't the thread about artistic merits, it's a thread about technical ability of a lens.
Consequently, I am not seeing the point of your posts.
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Yes well, Robert Capa wasn't shooting portraits that day was he?
Because there's a portrait shot at f13 with the lens in the bumf material for the DFA 85, thus the point being is you use the aperture for the style of portrait and the intent and they themselves were not just sticking to f1.4 shots. If you do wide open, get it right, if you do a stopped down shot, get it right, and imo both fail in terms of correct distance/DoF for the style they went for. If a studio f1.4 shot was felt needed for promotional material for the lens and having it as SOOC as possible, then they should have taken more shots and selected one that at least has one of the eyes completely in focus. Or used one at f2.8 or whatever (seeing as they chose to show a f13 one, despite it too being technically weak).
I also just see this thread as a discussion about the DFA 85, not limited to just technical capability. We've talked about price point, the company as a whole, lots of things to keep the thread interesting and varied. Here I am poking the fire by criticising what I feel are poor portrait shots selected for what is essentially a portrait lens. There is one good portrait shot (that i ticked green) that doesn't look studio but natural light, the rest are pretty awful imo. People are saying its supposed to be like that etc, but its also marketing/advertising material as well, or that's how it will be perceived. If we had more shots like the good portrait shot I'd have no complaints to make.
My point is that this is material is available on the interweb for all to view and admire and get excited over the lens, we want good images, it's advertising, it's promotional content. The portrait ones are very subpar and images like this would not see the light of day in advertising/marketing bumf from Olympus, Fuji, Nikon, Canon, Leica, Sony etc. The portrait shots bring the tone of the promotion of the lens down. I would have either done a reshoot or just left them out. Just my 2 cents (with specifics).