Originally posted by nzondlo If we can't voice our concerns with the brand here, on the brand's forums, them where is that discourse allowed to take place?
This is not the brand's forum, Nathan. Nor is it some sort of public service. It is privately owned, no association with Ricoh.
Particularly, it's not some sort of place to vent - I don't come here to witness other people stamping their little feet over something they don't understand. I insist on this place being better than that, or if that just happens thread after thread, it's not worth my while paying for it annually. I don't sell stuff in the Marketplace, my Loyal Site Supporter status is because ... I support this site and its members.
People can tell very quickly if someone is just a whining loser. Or a fanboi. Particularly over time - they can't hide it.
But if people see all sides of your character - if you've invested in *them* first - it's amazing how big a criticism you can propose.
In one thread I've admitted I've supported the lawsuit initiated against Ricoh over the aperture block issue, even supplying the lawyers with advice. No shortage of the people I like have then disagreed with me, but all factual, all respectful so far, because there's no doubt I'm one of their brothers.
So, it's how you conduct yourself in a community, what you put into it first.
For someone who can't be bothered joining in, they're unhappy with their life and their hobby and just want somewhere to complain, I'll suggest DPR - basement dwelling trolls and open warfare between brand supporters are de rigeur.