Originally posted by nzondlo Reddit.com, the 19th most visited website in the world (7th US) would beg to differ. Their entire website is based around content first being self-moderated by their users via the upvote AND downvote buttons. Moderators step in when someone breaks website or subreddit rules. It works.
Reddit is a terrible example because it works on hive mind mentality. Posts that are downvoted early by a few people sink to oblivion because users will be negatively charged against what they perceive to go "against the grain" and instinctively downvote them. Not only that, but Reddit's rules
explicitly say that the down/upvote buttons are not dis/agree buttons. And to that, one can only say "lol".
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Originally posted by zzeitg Again a statement which is not legit. As mentioned already couple of times, I don't believe rampant amount of rules, restrictions and moderation could make anything better. The trolls will keep trolling on, while we all might suffer from increased level of moderation "paranoia". From my point of view the forum might simply become less free-thinking and open, which is too high price for getting rid of handful of trolls.
Originally posted by zzeitg Can not agree with that.
Any prohibition can't ever make the world better, just worse. There's not such a direct proportion (the more prohibition - the better world).
That being said, everybody should act reasonably - exactly to prevent unnecessary more restrictive rules.
(Emphasis mine) Unless my English is failing massively, which is entirely possible, you quite literally said that are restrictions (i.e. rules) are inherently bad.
Trolls won't keep trolling the moment they get IP bans. If they keep doing it, they will keep getting banned.
You claim that people should be civil, and I agree 100%. However, it's evident that there will be trolls (like you also said). Thus, there are two options: do something - meaning rules and their enforcement - or no -so no rules-.
You say that we will all suffer from moderation paranoia, I say that unless dealt with
the trolls will drown out everyone else and push them away from the forum out of sheer annoyance, so we end up with no forum which is even worse.