Meet the new flagship

totsmuyco · 08-01-2020, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by ogl

K-new 134.5mm x 103.5mm x 73.5mm

KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm
K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm
K-5II 131 x 97 x 73 mm

So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

gatorguy · 08-01-2020, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by ogl

had you ever seen such dimensions before in specs?

Yes, I posted them earlier.

EDIT: Here you go in case you don't see it
https://camerasize.com/compare/#619,677
https://camerasize.com/compare/#619,706

**Serkevan** · 08-01-2020, 04:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

Because it depends *where* you measure. The KP's thickest part (and the K-1's, for that matter, despite having a deep grip) is the line from the back of the eyepiece to the end of the prism overhang - and the prism housing is also a smidgen taller. The KP has a bit less volume than the K-3 I reckon.

---------- Post added 08-01-20 at 04:39 AM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

It's not a sticker; is an image which will be displayed on request, like on the GR III.

I just checked and the K-1 also has it. Same black stripes under and over the label and all.

ogl · 08-01-2020, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm
K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm

almost the same

Sandy Hancock · 08-01-2020, 05:16 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by ramseybuckeye

Doesn't everyone lose at Twister?

Have you ever played Twister?
Everyone wins.

gatorguy · 08-01-2020, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by ogl

KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm
K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm

almost the same

Spot on.
Pentax K-3 II and Pentax KP are the same width (131.5 mm) and K3 II is 1% (1.5 mm) taller than Pentax KP.
Pentax K-3 II is 2% (1.5 mm) thicker than Pentax KP.
Pentax K-3 II [785 g] weights 12% (82 grams) more than Pentax KP [703 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).

Fun Fact: Much is made of how compact the KP is but the K-70 is even more so.
- Pentax K-70 is 5% (6 mm) narrower and 8% (8 mm) shorter than Pentax KP.
- Pentax K-70 is 3% (2 mm) thinner than Pentax KP.
- Pentax K-70 [688 g] weights 2% (15 grams) less than Pentax KP [703 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
Snipped quote: "It's like holding a camera without holding a camera!"

Pentax has been going for "compact" for some time now.

**Larrymc** · 08-01-2020, 05:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

Too late the wish list has been finalized.......try again next generation!

:

**luftfluss** · 08-01-2020, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

The KP is only 57g lighter than the K-3 II...

gatorguy · 08-01-2020, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

The KP is only 57g lighter than the K-3 II...

Just 2 ounces? I guess I didn't look earlier and just assumed from a previous comment that it was much more than that. Thanks!

**luftfluss** · 08-01-2020, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Just 2 ounces? I guess I didn't look earlier and just assumed from a previous comment that it was much more than that. Thanks!

I was surprised the difference was so minimal. If you add the respective battery to each camera, the difference increases to 3 ounces.*

If we want that lovely pentaprism and solid build, we're just going to have to carry that weight

*The KP's weight will vary by which grip is used, obviously. I'm assuming the weight measurement for the KP is with the smallest grip.

**Larrymc** · 08-01-2020, 11:25 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by luftfluss

If we want that lovely pentaprism and solid build, we're just going to have to carry that weight

Gosh I'm only 74 I don't see how you older guys are going to be able to handle all that weight. Maybe hire a porter to carry all that tonnage?

totsmuyco · 08-01-2020, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Gosh I'm only 74 I don't see how you older guys are going to be able to handle all that weight. Maybe hire a porter to carry all that tonnage?

No offense to FF users. That's why I don't like their system. You'll need a Samsonite to lug your system around. Have mercy on me!!!

Praktica*ist · 08-01-2020, 01:53 PM

The KP is lighter than the K3 mark II by 57 grams, OK . But let's not forget it has a smaller grip, a smaller battery, and its shell is not completely made of alloy, but incorporates fair share of plastic.

BROO · 08-01-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Praktica*ist

The KP is lighter than the K3 mark II by 57 grams, OK . But let's not forget it has a smaller grip, a smaller battery, and its shell is not completely made of alloy, but incorporates fair share of plastic.

Yeah but it does have a flippy screen

Wheatfield · 08-01-2020, 03:16 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

No offense to FF users. That's why I don't like their system. You'll need a Samsonite to lug your system around. Have mercy on me!!!

My full frame bag weighs 23.4 pounds. That takes me from 15mm up to 200mm in 8 lenses plus the K1 and grip and some filters.
But its worth it.

08-01-2020, 05:16 AM	#636
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by ogl KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm almost the same Spot on. Pentax K-3 II and Pentax KP are the same width (131.5 mm) and K3 II is 1% (1.5 mm) taller than Pentax KP. Pentax K-3 II is 2% (1.5 mm) thicker than Pentax KP. Pentax K-3 II [785 g] weights 12% (82 grams) more than Pentax KP [703 g] (inc. batteries and memory card). Fun Fact: Much is made of how compact the KP is but the K-70 is even more so. - Pentax K-70 is 5% (6 mm) narrower and 8% (8 mm) shorter than Pentax KP. - Pentax K-70 is 3% (2 mm) thinner than Pentax KP. - Pentax K-70 [688 g] weights 2% (15 grams) less than Pentax KP [703 g] (inc. batteries and memory card). Snipped quote: "It's like holding a camera without holding a camera!" Pentax has been going for "compact" for some time now. Last edited by gatorguy; 08-01-2020 at 05:22 AM.

08-01-2020, 05:40 AM - 1 Like	#637
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by totsmuyco So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter. Too late the wish list has been finalized.......try again next generation!:

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08-01-2020, 03:22 AM	#631
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by ogl K-new 134.5mm x 103.5mm x 73.5mm KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm K-5II 131 x 97 x 73 mm So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter.

08-01-2020, 04:19 AM	#632
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by ogl had you ever seen such dimensions before in specs? Yes, I posted them earlier. EDIT: Here you go in case you don't see it https://camerasize.com/compare/#619,677 https://camerasize.com/compare/#619,706

08-01-2020, 04:38 AM - 1 Like	#633
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by totsmuyco So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter. Because it depends where you measure. The KP's thickest part (and the K-1's, for that matter, despite having a deep grip) is the line from the back of the eyepiece to the end of the prism overhang - and the prism housing is also a smidgen taller. The KP has a bit less volume than the K-3 I reckon. ---------- Post added 08-01-20 at 04:39 AM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite It's not a sticker; is an image which will be displayed on request, like on the GR III. I just checked and the K-1 also has it. Same black stripes under and over the label and all.

08-01-2020, 04:49 AM	#634
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by totsmuyco So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter. KP 132 x 101 x 76 mm K-3II 131 x 100 x 77 mm almost the same

08-01-2020, 05:16 AM - 2 Likes	#635
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by ramseybuckeye Doesn't everyone lose at Twister? Have you ever played Twister? Everyone wins.

08-01-2020, 08:07 AM	#638
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by totsmuyco So, the KP is bigger in size compared to the K-3II but is much lighter. Wow!!! Can they make this K-new lighter as well? I'd like it to be much lighter. The KP is only 57g lighter than the K-3 II...

08-01-2020, 09:18 AM	#639
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by luftfluss The KP is only 57g lighter than the K-3 II... Just 2 ounces? I guess I didn't look earlier and just assumed from a previous comment that it was much more than that. Thanks!

08-01-2020, 10:10 AM	#640
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by gatorguy Just 2 ounces? I guess I didn't look earlier and just assumed from a previous comment that it was much more than that. Thanks! I was surprised the difference was so minimal. If you add the respective battery to each camera, the difference increases to 3 ounces.* If we want that lovely pentaprism and solid build, we're just going to have to carry that weight *The KP's weight will vary by which grip is used, obviously. I'm assuming the weight measurement for the KP is with the smallest grip.

08-01-2020, 11:25 AM - 3 Likes	#641
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by luftfluss If we want that lovely pentaprism and solid build, we're just going to have to carry that weight Gosh I'm only 74 I don't see how you older guys are going to be able to handle all that weight. Maybe hire a porter to carry all that tonnage?

08-01-2020, 12:29 PM	#642
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by Larrymc Gosh I'm only 74 I don't see how you older guys are going to be able to handle all that weight. Maybe hire a porter to carry all that tonnage? No offense to FF users. That's why I don't like their system. You'll need a Samsonite to lug your system around. Have mercy on me!!!

08-01-2020, 01:53 PM	#643
Praktica*ist Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: France, near Paris Posts: 57	The KP is lighter than the K3 mark II by 57 grams, OK . But let's not forget it has a smaller grip, a smaller battery, and its shell is not completely made of alloy, but incorporates fair share of plastic.

08-01-2020, 02:45 PM	#644
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by Praktica*ist The KP is lighter than the K3 mark II by 57 grams, OK . But let's not forget it has a smaller grip, a smaller battery, and its shell is not completely made of alloy, but incorporates fair share of plastic. Yeah but it does have a flippy screen

08-01-2020, 03:16 PM - 2 Likes	#645
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by totsmuyco No offense to FF users. That's why I don't like their system. You'll need a Samsonite to lug your system around. Have mercy on me!!! My full frame bag weighs 23.4 pounds. That takes me from 15mm up to 200mm in 8 lenses plus the K1 and grip and some filters. But its worth it.