K-70 replacement model?

Peter_JDH · 07-26-2020, 11:12 AM

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I see a number of retailers in Canada are listing both the K-70 and KP as discontinued - unavailable for order. With the new flagship coming, I get why the KP might be discontinued, so I wonder if there has been mention of a refresh to the ‘double digit‘ model line? I also see the DA 18-135 lens listed as discontinued in places. Maybe a new PLM version in the offing? Or is that just hopeful thinking? In any event, it is encouraging to see new Pentax products appearing alongside close out product such that retailers seem committed to supporting the brand going forward.

reh321 · 07-26-2020, 11:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Peter_JDH

I see a number of retailers in Canada are listing both the K-70 and KP as discontinued - unavailable for order. With the new flagship coming, I get why the KP might be discontinued, so I wonder if there has been mention of a refresh to the ‘double digit‘ model line? I also see the DA 18-135 lens listed as discontinued in places. Maybe a new PLM version in the offing? Or is that just hopeful thinking? In any event, it is encouraging to see new Pentax products appearing alongside close out product such that retailers seem committed to supporting the brand going forward.

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if a KP replacement became the entry Pentax model - the “double digit” models have the whole aperture control thing to live down. In any case, I would not become too anxious - think of how long ‘flagship’ users have waited.

stevebrot · 07-26-2020, 12:00 PM - **2 Likes**

If K-70 is showing as unavailable or discontinued, it is probably just the strange nature of the movement of goods in the age of COVID-19. Henry's says "special order" for K-70. Camera Canada has the K-70 in stock and on sale. While a replacement may certainly be due for the K-70, I would not expect such to be imminent.

Steve

Adam · 07-26-2020, 12:55 PM

I don't believe either camera is discontinued. It would be surprising (but not inpossible) to see either get replaced before the flagship.

Adam
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Kunzite · 07-26-2020, 01:10 PM

I believe it's just a supply issue (rather, a production issue generated by component supply).

fsge · 07-26-2020, 03:30 PM - **1 Like**

I am surprised by KP replacement. It fils well under Knew with attractive pricing. That being said a KP available in the 600-700 USD does not leave much room for a K70 replacement around 500 USD...

thibs · 07-26-2020, 10:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by fsge

I am surprised by KP replacement. It fils well under Knew with attractive pricing. That being said a KP available in the 600-700 USD does not leave much room for a K70 replacement around 500 USD...

K70 won't be replaced IMO

KP - K-new - K1 II (and respective replacements)

**Serkevan** · 07-30-2020, 09:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by thibs

K70 won't be replaced IMO

KP - K-new - K1 II (and respective replacements)

I feel the same way. KP line for street/travel (compact body that plays well with Limiteds and lightweight zooms like 18-135/55-300), K-New line for action-oriented photography (deeper grip to hold the large lenses better, best AF/frame rate that Pentax can offer gets debuted here), K-1 as outdoors/portrait camera (chock-full of features, uncompromising IQ).

Maybe we'll see a merger of the K-70/KP lines into something with the KP's build quality but the more "conventional" DSLR form factor and size of the K-70? It would still be in the price range of the KP most likely, however.

bobmaxja · 07-30-2020, 11:25 AM

Amazon Canada still show the KP in Canada.
Amazon Canada: Pentax KP Ultra-Compact Weatherproof Dynamic Black Body 24.32Mp DSLR with 3" LCD, Black
and the user rating is 4.6 out of 5 . Really great .
I have one and still very happy Use it all week and absolutly the best APSC from pentax up to now.
My feeling is also KP - K-new - K1 II

JPT · 07-30-2020, 04:35 PM - **1 Like**

The situation in Japan is that one usually reliable shop (Map Camera) is listing the Silver version of the KP only as out of production, but still has stock. The official Ricoh store also shows the silver version as out of stock. At the moment it is still easy to find a silver one if you want that.

There is no indication that the black KP or either colour of the K-70 are discontinued. The price comparison site Kakaku.com shows them as available from around 50 vendors, which is normal for a current Pentax model.

As for the J Limited KP, it is still listed but it was always made to order with a one-month delivery time so trying to track whether it is in stock is not relevant.

totsmuyco · 08-01-2020, 02:26 PM

If the KP is discontinued, I hope for a newer version. I would go for it if I have some spare cash. I'm just a sucker for retro cameras. I really like the way cameras look in the 80s. To me KP is closest to it.

reh321 · 08-01-2020, 03:18 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

If the KP is discontinued, I hope for a newer version. I would go for it if I have some spare cash. I'm just a sucker for retro cameras. I really like the way cameras look in the 80s. To me KP is closest to it.

When my silver KP arrived, my wife thought I had left my "Super Program" {purchased in 1983) out.

larryaustin3 · 08-01-2020, 06:12 PM

I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another?

totsmuyco · 08-02-2020, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by larryaustin3

I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another?

Probably not now but in the future. I don't have one but I'm wishing for one. Basing on the review of it's image quality at low light high ISO shots, I like it a lot. Again the great plus for me is the retro look.

---------- Post added 08-02-20 at 04:14 PM ----------

Originally posted by reh321

When my silver KP arrived, my wife thought I had left my "Super Program" {purchased in 1983) out.

It sure looks like the super program. Maybe next time Pentax will come up with a super ME D. Remember you've first read it here at Pentax forums.com.

Zygonyx · 08-06-2020, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by larryaustin3

I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another?

They did it exactly with KP J Limited edition.
If you add the D-BG7 grip it's already 5 combinations available.

07-26-2020, 11:12 AM	#1
Peter_JDH Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: British Columbia Posts: 41	K-70 replacement model? Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. I see a number of retailers in Canada are listing both the K-70 and KP as discontinued - unavailable for order. With the new flagship coming, I get why the KP might be discontinued, so I wonder if there has been mention of a refresh to the ‘double digit‘ model line? I also see the DA 18-135 lens listed as discontinued in places. Maybe a new PLM version in the offing? Or is that just hopeful thinking? In any event, it is encouraging to see new Pentax products appearing alongside close out product such that retailers seem committed to supporting the brand going forward.

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07-26-2020, 11:21 AM - 1 Like	#2
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Peter_JDH I see a number of retailers in Canada are listing both the K-70 and KP as discontinued - unavailable for order. With the new flagship coming, I get why the KP might be discontinued, so I wonder if there has been mention of a refresh to the ‘double digit‘ model line? I also see the DA 18-135 lens listed as discontinued in places. Maybe a new PLM version in the offing? Or is that just hopeful thinking? In any event, it is encouraging to see new Pentax products appearing alongside close out product such that retailers seem committed to supporting the brand going forward. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if a KP replacement became the entry Pentax model - the “double digit” models have the whole aperture control thing to live down. In any case, I would not become too anxious - think of how long ‘flagship’ users have waited.

07-26-2020, 12:00 PM - 2 Likes	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	If K-70 is showing as unavailable or discontinued, it is probably just the strange nature of the movement of goods in the age of COVID-19. Henry's says "special order" for K-70. Camera Canada has the K-70 in stock and on sale. While a replacement may certainly be due for the K-70, I would not expect such to be imminent. Steve

07-26-2020, 12:55 PM	#4
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	I don't believe either camera is discontinued. It would be surprising (but not inpossible) to see either get replaced before the flagship. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-26-2020, 01:10 PM	#5
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I believe it's just a supply issue (rather, a production issue generated by component supply).

07-26-2020, 03:30 PM - 1 Like	#6
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	I am surprised by KP replacement. It fils well under Knew with attractive pricing. That being said a KP available in the 600-700 USD does not leave much room for a K70 replacement around 500 USD...

07-26-2020, 10:19 PM - 1 Like	#7
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by fsge I am surprised by KP replacement. It fils well under Knew with attractive pricing. That being said a KP available in the 600-700 USD does not leave much room for a K70 replacement around 500 USD... K70 won't be replaced IMO KP - K-new - K1 II (and respective replacements)

07-30-2020, 09:38 AM - 1 Like	#8
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by thibs K70 won't be replaced IMO KP - K-new - K1 II (and respective replacements) I feel the same way. KP line for street/travel (compact body that plays well with Limiteds and lightweight zooms like 18-135/55-300), K-New line for action-oriented photography (deeper grip to hold the large lenses better, best AF/frame rate that Pentax can offer gets debuted here), K-1 as outdoors/portrait camera (chock-full of features, uncompromising IQ). Maybe we'll see a merger of the K-70/KP lines into something with the KP's build quality but the more "conventional" DSLR form factor and size of the K-70? It would still be in the price range of the KP most likely, however.

07-30-2020, 11:25 AM	#9
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Amazon Canada still show the KP in Canada. Amazon Canada: Pentax KP Ultra-Compact Weatherproof Dynamic Black Body 24.32Mp DSLR with 3" LCD, Black and the user rating is 4.6 out of 5 . Really great . I have one and still very happy Use it all week and absolutly the best APSC from pentax up to now. My feeling is also KP - K-new - K1 II

07-30-2020, 04:35 PM - 1 Like	#10
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	The situation in Japan is that one usually reliable shop (Map Camera) is listing the Silver version of the KP only as out of production, but still has stock. The official Ricoh store also shows the silver version as out of stock. At the moment it is still easy to find a silver one if you want that. There is no indication that the black KP or either colour of the K-70 are discontinued. The price comparison site Kakaku.com shows them as available from around 50 vendors, which is normal for a current Pentax model. As for the J Limited KP, it is still listed but it was always made to order with a one-month delivery time so trying to track whether it is in stock is not relevant.

08-01-2020, 02:26 PM	#11
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	If the KP is discontinued, I hope for a newer version. I would go for it if I have some spare cash. I'm just a sucker for retro cameras. I really like the way cameras look in the 80s. To me KP is closest to it.

08-01-2020, 03:18 PM - 2 Likes	#12
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by totsmuyco If the KP is discontinued, I hope for a newer version. I would go for it if I have some spare cash. I'm just a sucker for retro cameras. I really like the way cameras look in the 80s. To me KP is closest to it. When my silver KP arrived, my wife thought I had left my "Super Program" {purchased in 1983) out.

08-01-2020, 06:12 PM	#13
larryaustin3 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 105	I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another?

08-02-2020, 01:12 AM	#14
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by larryaustin3 I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another? Probably not now but in the future. I don't have one but I'm wishing for one. Basing on the review of it's image quality at low light high ISO shots, I like it a lot. Again the great plus for me is the retro look. ---------- Post added 08-02-20 at 04:14 PM ---------- Originally posted by reh321 When my silver KP arrived, my wife thought I had left my "Super Program" {purchased in 1983) out. It sure looks like the super program. Maybe next time Pentax will come up with a super ME D. Remember you've first read it here at Pentax forums.com.

08-06-2020, 03:57 AM	#15
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Originally posted by larryaustin3 I don't see the need for a new KP considering it still holds up well vs. the competition and at a price that's very competitive ($750). Pentax can give it a cheap "refresh" with the production of another grip. Why did they make interchangeable grips in the first place if they would never release another? They did it exactly with KP J Limited edition. If you add the D-BG7 grip it's already 5 combinations available.

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