Product Stories of New APS-C

totsmuyco · 07-31-2020, 04:26 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by mhsp1948

I am so glad that Pentax is going to keep producing DSLR cameras, but I don't like the idea of Pentax's new camera being an APS-C. I had a K3-II and I own a KP and I also own a K1 and K1 Mark ii and the APS-C cameras can't and don't touch my K1 or K1 Mark II in IQ. I wish they were making a new flagship full frame camera. Now don't get all bent out of shape because I said I want a Full Frame instead of a crop camera. It is just my preference and I am looking forward to the day Pentax makes a New Full Frame K1 type Camera

I understand that the FF has the best image quality. However there are some of us who prefer an APS-C system. I for one don't like to carry much weight. FF lenses weigh too much compared to APS-C.

bobmaxja · 07-31-2020, 05:57 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

I understand that the FF has the best image quality. However there are some of us who prefer an APS-C system. I for one don't like to carry much weight. FF lenses weigh too much compared to APS-C.

Same fo me, I will never get an FF. But great for people who need it

**monochrome** · 07-31-2020, 06:54 PM - **1 Like**

Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds.

noelpolar · 07-31-2020, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds.

x2.... but .... whilst I may buy a Knew for my dfa 150-450..... I probally wouldn't unless it offers significant pixle density over the next K1new.... which I'd guess will be mid 40'is MP.... but off course this won't be known at release time.

**jatrax** · 08-02-2020, 10:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP.

x3 - I use both K-3II and K-1II and even though the K-1II is much heavier I find it doesn't tire my hands as much as the K-3II. The K-1II grip is just perfect for my hands. I would have assumed the opposite just because of the weight, but at least for my hands the grip makes a big difference.

**Spodeworld** · 08-02-2020, 12:43 PM

Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center.

thibs · 08-02-2020, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Spodeworld

Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center.

Rumoured to be (better covered) but before announcement, this is all conjecture.

Class A · 08-02-2020, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Spodeworld

Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center.

Early images of the mirror box indicated a very wide AF module. It would be a big surprise if the K-new didn't offer better than usual AF frame coverage.

**gaweidert** · 08-03-2020, 05:55 AM - **3 Likes**

If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined.

If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all.

**mhsp1948** · 08-03-2020, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by gaweidert

If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined.

If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all.

Yes, indeed gaweidert! Me being stuck with one K1 and two K1-II's and one KP is not a bad thing as I wait for the day they launch a new Full Frame K1 type camera.

**Serkevan** · 08-03-2020, 06:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gaweidert

If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined.

If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all.

Maybe us K1 folks are just so deep down the rabbit hole of gearing up that we post too darn much?

reh321 · 08-03-2020, 06:25 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds.

Funny - for me there is no "balance" problem with the KP, even with the smallest available grip. I learned to have my right hand on the body and my left hand on the lens, and even with the 77-420mm {55-300 + 1.4X TC} lens that works fine for me - the left hand just bears a higher proportion of the weight.

**Serkevan** · 08-03-2020, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Funny - for me there is no "balance" problem with the KP, even with the smallest available grip. I learned to have my right hand on the body and my left hand on the lens, and even with the 77-420mm {55-300 + 1.4X TC} lens that works fine for me - the left hand just bears a higher proportion of the weight.

The KP is still quite chunky and the PLM + TC is a fair bit lighter than the body itself, so I'm not surprised. Now if you were to put a 1 kg+ lens on it that would probably be a different story...

For reference, I've been using a Sigma 400/5.6 (~850g) on my K-1 lately, and it's comfortable. Handholding 400mm is tough because of just how still one has to be, but the weight itself isn't a problem - the center of gravity is still close to the body (of the operator, I mean

)

bertwert · 08-03-2020, 06:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

For reference, I've been using a Sigma 400/5.6 (~850g) on my K-1 lately, and it's comfortable. Handholding 400mm is tough because of just how still one has to be, but the weight itself isn't a problem - the center of gravity is still close to the body (of the operator, I mean )

I'm was honestly surprised how easy my A 400 was to handhold, even with a 'smaller' K-50 body. It's even easier if you add a sling to the tripod point of the lens, so you can pull against and brace it.

(Speaking of which, when are we going to see some of those 400m shots?

)

**Serkevan** · 08-03-2020, 06:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bertwert

(Speaking of which, when are we going to see some of those 400m shots?

)

When I manage to overcome the "I need colour temp 8000 to remove the blue tints at long focus distances" thingy

. It's making me work for it!

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07-31-2020, 04:26 PM - 4 Likes	#31
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by mhsp1948 I am so glad that Pentax is going to keep producing DSLR cameras, but I don't like the idea of Pentax's new camera being an APS-C. I had a K3-II and I own a KP and I also own a K1 and K1 Mark ii and the APS-C cameras can't and don't touch my K1 or K1 Mark II in IQ. I wish they were making a new flagship full frame camera. Now don't get all bent out of shape because I said I want a Full Frame instead of a crop camera. It is just my preference and I am looking forward to the day Pentax makes a New Full Frame K1 type Camera I understand that the FF has the best image quality. However there are some of us who prefer an APS-C system. I for one don't like to carry much weight. FF lenses weigh too much compared to APS-C.

07-31-2020, 05:57 PM - 2 Likes	#32
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Originally posted by totsmuyco I understand that the FF has the best image quality. However there are some of us who prefer an APS-C system. I for one don't like to carry much weight. FF lenses weigh too much compared to APS-C. Same fo me, I will never get an FF. But great for people who need it

07-31-2020, 06:54 PM - 1 Like	#33
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds.

07-31-2020, 07:53 PM	#34
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by monochrome Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds. x2.... but .... whilst I may buy a Knew for my dfa 150-450..... I probally wouldn't unless it offers significant pixle density over the next K1new.... which I'd guess will be mid 40'is MP.... but off course this won't be known at release time.

08-02-2020, 10:51 AM - 1 Like	#35
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by monochrome Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. x3 - I use both K-3II and K-1II and even though the K-1II is much heavier I find it doesn't tire my hands as much as the K-3II. The K-1II grip is just perfect for my hands. I would have assumed the opposite just because of the weight, but at least for my hands the grip makes a big difference.

08-02-2020, 12:43 PM	#36
Spodeworld Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Joisey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,370	Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center.

08-02-2020, 01:19 PM	#37
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Spodeworld Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center. Rumoured to be (better covered) but before announcement, this is all conjecture.

08-02-2020, 04:09 PM	#38
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by Spodeworld Wonder if much more of the frame will covered with AF points rather than clustering them in the center. Early images of the mirror box indicated a very wide AF module. It would be a big surprise if the K-new didn't offer better than usual AF frame coverage.

08-03-2020, 05:55 AM - 3 Likes	#39
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined. If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all.

08-03-2020, 06:06 AM	#40
mhsp1948 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mississippi Photos: Gallery Posts: 617	Originally posted by gaweidert If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined. If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all. Yes, indeed gaweidert! Me being stuck with one K1 and two K1-II's and one KP is not a bad thing as I wait for the day they launch a new Full Frame K1 type camera.

08-03-2020, 06:24 AM - 1 Like	#41
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by gaweidert If one went by camera format usage by members here the thread where you post your K1/K1-II photographs is larger than almost all the other similar threads combined. If I get the K-New I will probably upgrade from my current DA55-300 to the PLM model too for better autofocus. Battery grip too. Often included in pre-orders so why not? I would prefer a FF camera with the upgraded features, but I doubt it will be out anytime soon. Probably 2022 or later This is merely my guess based upon current rate of new camera model introductions. Being "stuck" with only the K1, K1-II and K3 at the moment is not a bad thing at all. Maybe us K1 folks are just so deep down the rabbit hole of gearing up that we post too darn much?

08-03-2020, 06:25 AM - 1 Like	#42
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by monochrome Funny thing - to me K-1 is more comfortable and better balanced than KP. With anything lighter than FA*80-200/2.8 (and DFA70-210/2.8 when I had it) I don’t notice the weight. I actually prefer K-1 to KP, which I use for travel and snapshots. Default lens on K-1 is DFA24-70/2.8 or one of the FA Limiteds. Funny - for me there is no "balance" problem with the KP, even with the smallest available grip. I learned to have my right hand on the body and my left hand on the lens, and even with the 77-420mm {55-300 + 1.4X TC} lens that works fine for me - the left hand just bears a higher proportion of the weight.

08-03-2020, 06:31 AM	#43
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by reh321 Funny - for me there is no "balance" problem with the KP, even with the smallest available grip. I learned to have my right hand on the body and my left hand on the lens, and even with the 77-420mm {55-300 + 1.4X TC} lens that works fine for me - the left hand just bears a higher proportion of the weight. The KP is still quite chunky and the PLM + TC is a fair bit lighter than the body itself, so I'm not surprised. Now if you were to put a 1 kg+ lens on it that would probably be a different story... For reference, I've been using a Sigma 400/5.6 (~850g) on my K-1 lately, and it's comfortable. Handholding 400mm is tough because of just how still one has to be, but the weight itself isn't a problem - the center of gravity is still close to the body (of the operator, I mean )

08-03-2020, 06:56 AM - 1 Like	#44
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	Originally posted by Serkevan For reference, I've been using a Sigma 400/5.6 (~850g) on my K-1 lately, and it's comfortable. Handholding 400mm is tough because of just how still one has to be, but the weight itself isn't a problem - the center of gravity is still close to the body (of the operator, I mean ) I'm was honestly surprised how easy my A 400 was to handhold, even with a 'smaller' K-50 body. It's even easier if you add a sling to the tripod point of the lens, so you can pull against and brace it. (Speaking of which, when are we going to see some of those 400m shots? )

08-03-2020, 06:58 AM - 1 Like	#45
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by bertwert (Speaking of which, when are we going to see some of those 400m shots? ) When I manage to overcome the "I need colour temp 8000 to remove the blue tints at long focus distances" thingy . It's making me work for it!