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Not a Number · 08-21-2020, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by leekil

But why is there a notch on the back in the two views from the bottom of the camera, that the K-3 doesn't have? That could be where you can pull out the screen with your fingernail.

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Not a Number · 08-21-2020, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

That's not 3mm, but 3 extra mm - you have to add the eyepiece, too.

Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D.

k1man · 08-21-2020, 04:00 PM

Hi guy's, not related to the apsc but a question as such, is Pentax ever going to bring out a new FF body ? as the K1 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, thanks Ian

thibs · 08-21-2020, 04:09 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by k1man

Hi guy's, not related to the apsc but a question as such, is Pentax ever going to bring out a new FF body ? as the K1 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, thanks Ian

Sure. Wait a year and a half max after Knew. Unless 645 get priority first but I doubt it.

**Serkevan** · 08-21-2020, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D.

Can confirm: my nose is too big for the K-1 with O-ME53 and glasses. It isn't quite a problem, though...

k1man · 08-21-2020, 04:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

Can confirm: my nose is too big for the K-1 with O-ME53 and glasses. It isn't quite a problem, though...

the rubber is all damaged on mine, a great little viewer but fragile

---------- Post added 08-21-20 at 04:57 PM ----------

Originally posted by thibs

Sure. Wait a year and a half max after Knew. Unless 645 get priority first but I doubt it.

thanks, oh well i will upgrade my bike in the meantime then, haha

**Frogdog** · 08-21-2020, 05:00 PM

Do you all think the similarities of the K-new's back screen to the K1 and K1 ii provide any clues? Or is it more likely sharing the part from the parts bin? I'm referencing specifically the bezel-under-glass design. It seems like a strange choice for the K-new to use a fixed screen which is a bezel-under-glass without the screen being self-contained in some kind of way. The K3 screen looks much cleaner, but maybe it's just a design choice.

**Belnan** · 08-21-2020, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by stillshot2

I'm a little embarrassed about all the marketing about the 3mm of nose relief and the auto off eye sensor for the rear screen that was present on my entry level Sony a330 DSLR I bought in 2009. Hardly new tech and though it was convenient on my Sony after switching to Pentax in 2013 I simply learned to leave the rear screen off and haven't missed it. And those 3mm really aren't going to make a difference lol

I agree, I got a big nose and 3mm isnt doing anything. Eye sensor is kind of gimmicky. I don't think I have thought once that I needed one.

rawr · 08-21-2020, 05:22 PM - **1 Like**

Just to clarify what everyone is talking about (as seen in the latest 'Product Story' linked above):

To me, something is certainly going on with the K-new rear LCD. Whether it's flippy or not, it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD.

bobmaxja · 08-21-2020, 05:35 PM - **1 Like**

It’s simply a change in design like you See all the time with car, sometime it’s done to reduce time of assembly

BROO · 08-21-2020, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by rawr

it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD.

No, speculation has it that it is a WR touchscreen and as a result has a different set of engineering design requirements. Expansion, heat, thin glass/polymer surface etc.

You cant just glue a thick piece over the top of it.

Not a flippy screen mate.

**jerryleejr** · 08-21-2020, 05:52 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

Just to clarify what everyone is talking about (as seen in the latest 'Product Story' linked above):

To me, something is certainly going on with the K-new rear LCD. Whether it's flippy or not, it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD.

Ah it’s recessed to accommodate the new iPhone! 😂😂😂

JJ

rawr · 08-21-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

It’s simply a change in design like you See all the time with car, sometime it’s done to reduce time of assembly

Probably true.

Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose. It could just be some room for the Pentax logo, or something more technical.

Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and a late 2020 release date.

lytrytyr · 08-21-2020, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D.

I may be dyslexic, but I don't have that problem with my K01.

**jerryleejr** · 08-21-2020, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Probably true.

Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose.

Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and any planned late 2020 release date.

Not being argumentative but I’ve never owned a camera with a “flippy” screen. I’m assuming it’s quite an asset if everyone seems to want it? Or do they want it based on the principle everyone else has had it for over a decade? Personally I’m just ready for an upgrade...

JJ

08-21-2020, 05:45 PM	#71
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by rawr it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD. No, speculation has it that it is a WR touchscreen and as a result has a different set of engineering design requirements. Expansion, heat, thin glass/polymer surface etc. You cant just glue a thick piece over the top of it. Not a flippy screen mate. Last edited by BROO; 08-21-2020 at 05:52 PM.

08-21-2020, 05:55 PM	#73
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by bobmaxja It’s simply a change in design like you See all the time with car, sometime it’s done to reduce time of assembly Probably true. Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose. It could just be some room for the Pentax logo, or something more technical. Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and a late 2020 release date. Last edited by rawr; 08-21-2020 at 06:02 PM.

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08-21-2020, 03:50 PM	#61
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by leekil But why is there a notch on the back in the two views from the bottom of the camera, that the K-3 doesn't have? That could be where you can pull out the screen with your fingernail. R03010 = K-new was registered by FCC on 27 July 2020 - Page 5 - PentaxForums.com

08-21-2020, 03:55 PM	#62
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by Kunzite That's not 3mm, but 3 extra mm - you have to add the eyepiece, too. Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D.

08-21-2020, 04:00 PM	#63
k1man Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Si Chiang Mai. Nong Khai Province Photos: Albums Posts: 358	Hi guy's, not related to the apsc but a question as such, is Pentax ever going to bring out a new FF body ? as the K1 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, thanks Ian

08-21-2020, 04:09 PM - 2 Likes	#64
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by k1man Hi guy's, not related to the apsc but a question as such, is Pentax ever going to bring out a new FF body ? as the K1 is getting a bit long in the tooth now, thanks Ian Sure. Wait a year and a half max after Knew. Unless 645 get priority first but I doubt it.

08-21-2020, 04:18 PM	#65
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Not a Number Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D. Can confirm: my nose is too big for the K-1 with O-ME53 and glasses. It isn't quite a problem, though...

08-21-2020, 04:55 PM - 1 Like	#66
k1man Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Si Chiang Mai. Nong Khai Province Photos: Albums Posts: 358	Originally posted by Serkevan Can confirm: my nose is too big for the K-1 with O-ME53 and glasses. It isn't quite a problem, though... the rubber is all damaged on mine, a great little viewer but fragile ---------- Post added 08-21-20 at 04:57 PM ---------- Originally posted by thibs Sure. Wait a year and a half max after Knew. Unless 645 get priority first but I doubt it. thanks, oh well i will upgrade my bike in the meantime then, haha

08-21-2020, 05:00 PM	#67
Frogdog Site Supporter Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 49	Do you all think the similarities of the K-new's back screen to the K1 and K1 ii provide any clues? Or is it more likely sharing the part from the parts bin? I'm referencing specifically the bezel-under-glass design. It seems like a strange choice for the K-new to use a fixed screen which is a bezel-under-glass without the screen being self-contained in some kind of way. The K3 screen looks much cleaner, but maybe it's just a design choice.

08-21-2020, 05:12 PM	#68
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by stillshot2 I'm a little embarrassed about all the marketing about the 3mm of nose relief and the auto off eye sensor for the rear screen that was present on my entry level Sony a330 DSLR I bought in 2009. Hardly new tech and though it was convenient on my Sony after switching to Pentax in 2013 I simply learned to leave the rear screen off and haven't missed it. And those 3mm really aren't going to make a difference lol I agree, I got a big nose and 3mm isnt doing anything. Eye sensor is kind of gimmicky. I don't think I have thought once that I needed one.

08-21-2020, 05:22 PM - 1 Like	#69
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Just to clarify what everyone is talking about (as seen in the latest 'Product Story' linked above): To me, something is certainly going on with the K-new rear LCD. Whether it's flippy or not, it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD.

08-21-2020, 05:35 PM - 1 Like	#70
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	It’s simply a change in design like you See all the time with car, sometime it’s done to reduce time of assembly

08-21-2020, 05:52 PM - 1 Like	#72
jerryleejr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: TN Posts: 774	Originally posted by rawr Just to clarify what everyone is talking about (as seen in the latest 'Product Story' linked above): To me, something is certainly going on with the K-new rear LCD. Whether it's flippy or not, it certainly aint the old K-3 rear LCD. Ah it’s recessed to accommodate the new iPhone! 😂😂😂 JJ

08-21-2020, 05:58 PM	#74
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Not a Number Even with the extra 10mm or more when wearing my eyeglasses my proboscis still smushes up on the screen of my K10D. I may be dyslexic, but I don't have that problem with my K01.

08-21-2020, 06:01 PM	#75
jerryleejr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: TN Posts: 774	Originally posted by rawr Probably true. Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose. Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and any planned late 2020 release date. Not being argumentative but I’ve never owned a camera with a “flippy” screen. I’m assuming it’s quite an asset if everyone seems to want it? Or do they want it based on the principle everyone else has had it for over a decade? Personally I’m just ready for an upgrade... JJ