Another snippet from Pentax HQ

rawr · 08-21-2020, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by jerryleejr

I’m assuming it’s quite an asset

It certainly can be. It's not a total deal-breaker for me in a camera, but it's certainly extra useful.

I don't care if my mobile phone or GoPro don't have a flippy screen, but it's something I've come to appreciate in the K-1 and other cameras.

**Frogdog** · 08-21-2020, 06:51 PM - **1 Like**

That "notch" tricked my eye too! It's just a reflection of the eyecup after all.

I am about 99% convinced this is not the case, but if it were an articulating screen, it would have to be a repeat of the design of the K1, as in hingeless. That would require some serious engineering to fit in the body with the screen flush as the photos show. And would require the screen to release straight out to be articulated. It's probably just a touch screen like others have suggested, but no harm in imagining

Originally posted by rawr

Probably true.

Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose. It could just be some room for the Pentax logo, or something more technical.

Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and a late 2020 release date.

**Sqideyes** · 08-21-2020, 06:52 PM - **2 Likes**

That "new notch" is not a notch, it is the reflection of the eye piece on the LCD screen.

Frogdog just beat me to it.

rawr · 08-21-2020, 07:14 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Sqideyes

That "new notch" is not a notch, it is the reflection of the eye piece on the LCD screen.

Quite possible The 'notch' has a similar profile to the eyecup.

But the apparent 'notch' sits below the LCD screen edge, so would have to be reflecting off the side of the LCD display mount/bump, not off the top of the LCD screen, which we can't see.

**Sqideyes** · 08-21-2020, 07:37 PM

Maaaaate, sorry, but your eyes are deceiving your brain. Have a good look, the camera is not in profile it has a slight upwards slant from bottom to top. You can see the back (top) of the screen.

rawr · 08-21-2020, 09:14 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Sqideyes

Maaaaate, sorry, but your eyes are deceiving your brain.

Wouldn't be the first time.

The angle of the shot (and the shallow DOF) does kind of distort the perspective on the rear LCD, and make it look like it's bulging out, instead of being a flat interior panel between the two curved right-hand corners of the rear screen.

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So maybe no bottom 'notch' after all.

But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there

shiner · 08-21-2020, 09:24 PM

I'll likely get one of these whizbang bodies for walk around and my once or twice a year airshow action photos- basically all handheld shots. But for me macro and astro I want a movable screen, as I'm done at this point with kneeling in wet grass or contorting my spine to see the VF or LV, and too lazy to set up a remote screen- so I'll keep one KP for that kind of shot. If it projected a hologram directly into the visual cortex, now that would be cool.

**luftfluss** · 08-21-2020, 09:25 PM - **4 Likes**

At this point, Pentax may as well name the new camera the K Trompe-l'oeil...

Cynog Ap Brychan · 08-21-2020, 11:22 PM

All this concentration on the viewfinder makes me wonder if the camera has any other innovations to offer. Has the autofocus been improved? What video modes does it have? How many megapixels (not that that is terribly important)? Dynamic range? Connectivity? I must say, seeing what sparse information is coming from Ricoh so far, that I am a bit underwhelmed, and fear that I may be disappointed by the camera when we know its full specifications. I hope I'm wrong: I want a reason to buy this camera over and above what my K-3 II and K-1 already give me.

P.S. I think if the new camera has a tilting screen, we would know by now.

thibs · 08-21-2020, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by rawr

But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there

Just the door on left side of the body.

SoonerCaniac · 08-22-2020, 12:06 AM

The article may imply that the only purpose of the eye sensor (a.k.a. "new? automated eye sensor technology") is to turn off the LCD for viewfinder visibility. Seriously? To quote Mr. Collins: I Cannot Believe It's True (and no, I'm not a fixed-screen skeptic).

If there is a touchscreen, why keep a touchscreen so close to the chest? It's not a pioneering feature in 2020. I don't understand this excruciatingly slow bleed of information, but that doesn't make it wrong, just curious. Is this just Ricoh's modus operandi or do they think they are being exceedingly clever and sly? Forgive me, but I am finding it increasingly annoying.

The new OVF sounds quite innovative, no question. But two articles, three videos, three months, a fixed screen, 3mm extra spacing for your nose, and a "new" automated eye sensor later, it's becoming a bit comical to me. At this rate we'll see a new camera in another year or two.

The OP nailed it when they said "snippet". Death by a thousand snippets...

Kunzite · 08-22-2020, 12:08 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rawr

So maybe no bottom 'notch' after all.

But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there

Sigh.... nope, no left-side notch either, that's just the ports cover.
Come on, guys! Did you completely forgot how a camera looks like???

rawr · 08-22-2020, 02:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

Come on, guys! Did you completely forgot how a camera looks like???

Just trying to find a reason to be interested in this camera, I guess.

It's been a difficult task so far.

**ben-pentax** · 08-22-2020, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Folks, why don't we wait for the production camera to reach the market? I do hope that would be enough to quench speculations...

R U Serious?

Kunzite · 08-22-2020, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Just trying to find a reason to be interested in this camera, I guess.

It's been a difficult task so far.

There are plenty of reasons to be interested in this camera, even though we don't know most of them.
If the articulated screen would be THE reason for you, while performance would be pretty much irrelevant, you'd have a KP.

08-21-2020, 07:37 PM	#80
Sqideyes Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Sth West Western Australia Posts: 811	Maaaaate, sorry, but your eyes are deceiving your brain. Have a good look, the camera is not in profile it has a slight upwards slant from bottom to top. You can see the back (top) of the screen. Last edited by Sqideyes; 08-21-2020 at 07:49 PM.

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08-21-2020, 06:18 PM	#76
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jerryleejr I’m assuming it’s quite an asset It certainly can be. It's not a total deal-breaker for me in a camera, but it's certainly extra useful. I don't care if my mobile phone or GoPro don't have a flippy screen, but it's something I've come to appreciate in the K-1 and other cameras.

08-21-2020, 06:51 PM - 1 Like	#77
Frogdog Site Supporter Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 49	That "notch" tricked my eye too! It's just a reflection of the eyecup after all. I am about 99% convinced this is not the case, but if it were an articulating screen, it would have to be a repeat of the design of the K1, as in hingeless. That would require some serious engineering to fit in the body with the screen flush as the photos show. And would require the screen to release straight out to be articulated. It's probably just a touch screen like others have suggested, but no harm in imagining Originally posted by rawr Probably true. Notably, in these photos, there seems to be no visible hinges anywhere (left, right, bottom, top) to support a flippy screen. But the screen does seem a bit wider and deeper than the K-3 screen, and that new notch in the bottom centre of the LCD must fulfill some purpose. It could just be some room for the Pentax logo, or something more technical. Interestingly, from the EXIF, these K-new/K-3 product photos were taken by a K-1 II on December 03, 2019. So about 9 months ago ... A lot could change between 2019 and a late 2020 release date.

08-21-2020, 06:52 PM - 2 Likes	#78
Sqideyes Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Sth West Western Australia Posts: 811	That "new notch" is not a notch, it is the reflection of the eye piece on the LCD screen. Frogdog just beat me to it.

08-21-2020, 07:14 PM - 1 Like	#79
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Sqideyes That "new notch" is not a notch, it is the reflection of the eye piece on the LCD screen. Quite possible The 'notch' has a similar profile to the eyecup. But the apparent 'notch' sits below the LCD screen edge, so would have to be reflecting off the side of the LCD display mount/bump, not off the top of the LCD screen, which we can't see.

08-21-2020, 09:14 PM - 2 Likes	#81
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Sqideyes Maaaaate, sorry, but your eyes are deceiving your brain. Wouldn't be the first time. The angle of the shot (and the shallow DOF) does kind of distort the perspective on the rear LCD, and make it look like it's bulging out, instead of being a flat interior panel between the two curved right-hand corners of the rear screen. . So maybe no bottom 'notch' after all. But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there

08-21-2020, 09:24 PM	#82
shiner Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N GA USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,127	I'll likely get one of these whizbang bodies for walk around and my once or twice a year airshow action photos- basically all handheld shots. But for me macro and astro I want a movable screen, as I'm done at this point with kneeling in wet grass or contorting my spine to see the VF or LV, and too lazy to set up a remote screen- so I'll keep one KP for that kind of shot. If it projected a hologram directly into the visual cortex, now that would be cool.

08-21-2020, 09:25 PM - 4 Likes	#83
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	At this point, Pentax may as well name the new camera the K Trompe-l'oeil...

08-21-2020, 11:22 PM	#84
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	All this concentration on the viewfinder makes me wonder if the camera has any other innovations to offer. Has the autofocus been improved? What video modes does it have? How many megapixels (not that that is terribly important)? Dynamic range? Connectivity? I must say, seeing what sparse information is coming from Ricoh so far, that I am a bit underwhelmed, and fear that I may be disappointed by the camera when we know its full specifications. I hope I'm wrong: I want a reason to buy this camera over and above what my K-3 II and K-1 already give me. P.S. I think if the new camera has a tilting screen, we would know by now.

08-21-2020, 11:24 PM	#85
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by rawr But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there Just the door on left side of the body.

08-22-2020, 12:06 AM	#86
SoonerCaniac Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Upstate South Carolina Posts: 47	The article may imply that the only purpose of the eye sensor (a.k.a. "new? automated eye sensor technology") is to turn off the LCD for viewfinder visibility. Seriously? To quote Mr. Collins: I Cannot Believe It's True (and no, I'm not a fixed-screen skeptic). If there is a touchscreen, why keep a touchscreen so close to the chest? It's not a pioneering feature in 2020. I don't understand this excruciatingly slow bleed of information, but that doesn't make it wrong, just curious. Is this just Ricoh's modus operandi or do they think they are being exceedingly clever and sly? Forgive me, but I am finding it increasingly annoying. The new OVF sounds quite innovative, no question. But two articles, three videos, three months, a fixed screen, 3mm extra spacing for your nose, and a "new" automated eye sensor later, it's becoming a bit comical to me. At this rate we'll see a new camera in another year or two. The OP nailed it when they said "snippet". Death by a thousand snippets...

08-22-2020, 12:08 AM - 2 Likes	#87
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by rawr So maybe no bottom 'notch' after all. But there is a left-side notch [ ? ] visible on the left-hand back of the camera too. Could just be the edge of a port cover, but it would be nice if there was something more interesting there Sigh.... nope, no left-side notch either, that's just the ports cover. Come on, guys! Did you completely forgot how a camera looks like???

08-22-2020, 02:24 AM - 1 Like	#88
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Kunzite Come on, guys! Did you completely forgot how a camera looks like??? Just trying to find a reason to be interested in this camera, I guess. It's been a difficult task so far.

08-22-2020, 02:31 AM	#89
ben-pentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	Originally posted by Kunzite Folks, why don't we wait for the production camera to reach the market? I do hope that would be enough to quench speculations... R U Serious?

08-22-2020, 02:34 AM	#90
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by rawr Just trying to find a reason to be interested in this camera, I guess. It's been a difficult task so far. There are plenty of reasons to be interested in this camera, even though we don't know most of them. If the articulated screen would be THE reason for you, while performance would be pretty much irrelevant, you'd have a KP.