Product Stories of New APS-C (Directory)

rawr · 09-25-2020, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

I'm just wondering how much effort they put into the AF system. Hmmmm.......

The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics.

AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video.

bencoskater · 09-25-2020, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

Ok. So the camera has great ergonomics & an awesome OVF. It's also going to have very good IQ & it's almost guaranteed that 5-axis IBIS will be included That's a given.

I'm just wondering how much effort they put into the AF system. Hmmmm.......

Hi,

You can check here, we speculated about the AF system. Now we know for sure the purpose of the joystick as we assumed.

Class A · 09-25-2020, 09:05 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by vitc

The links for volumes 2 and 3 seem to be broken.

Sorry about that. Now fixed.

SharkyCA · 09-25-2020, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by vitc

The links for volumes 2 and 3 seem to be broken.

Links are working fine!

larryaustin3 · 09-25-2020, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Surely you are kidding.....right??

Why would he be kidding?

repaap · 09-25-2020, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by rawr

The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics.

AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video.

It could be that the product is already in peoples hands when there is story about the video...that said. There is actually not much that they can put to these stories, before they have to go little deeper. So far this is what we have already seen in their introduction videos. Next it should be actually that joystick and touch screen(if it is a touch screen) then it is possibly that mode dial and screen on top. If they want to go around. But then it is time to unleash it. My quess is rahat they will propably give us 6 more of these, which is good insight of cameras, 5 of them after releasing the camera it self.

BarneyL · 09-26-2020, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by rawr

The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics.

AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video.

Hate to jump on that bandwagon, but I feel the same way. All the stories released so far could be summarized in 1, maybe 2 articles. Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos.

**ffking** · 09-26-2020, 01:46 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BarneyL

Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos.

Or that they like playing games with us?

I think that also, potentially, they are majoring on things that they believe make Pentax stand out from the crowd - good AF is the norm the these days. and while we all hope they catch a long way up, it wouldn't differentiate the camera from the oposition unless it were actually better than Canikony.

Karen the Star · 09-26-2020, 02:33 AM

Hope they release something amaze us, actually I get a very good and different feelings on DSLR, OVF is magical(except taking photo under strong sunshine...), also I like the shutter voice that video has shown, so keep going on Pentax, by the way, I want a renew Hd 50-135 so much, its my best patenter for landscape while I'm traveling around place

**Pål Jensen** · 09-26-2020, 02:40 AM - **10 Likes**

Originally posted by BarneyL

Hate to jump on that bandwagon, but I feel the same way. All the stories released so far could be summarized in 1, maybe 2 articles. Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos.

It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure.

Kunzite · 09-26-2020, 02:45 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure.

Much better than the other way around.

deus ursus · 09-26-2020, 02:57 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

It believe it is the opposite. [...]

+1

I believe they're saving the best parts for the actual release. What we've seen so far are about details that may would've been overlooked by the press when they release the camera.

Mistral75 · 09-26-2020, 03:18 AM - **2 Likes**

They're also buying time. The K-3 II is long gone from the shelves.

**ThorSanchez** · 09-26-2020, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure.

It has to be. It has to have a pretty significant list of features they haven't talked about yet like autofocus and frame rate and other things. If they release a $1500-2000 APS-C camera that's more-or-less a K-3ii with a few tweaks it's dead on arrival.

**Serkevan** · 09-26-2020, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

It has to be. It has to have a pretty significant list of features they haven't talked about yet like autofocus and frame rate and other things. If they release a $1500-2000 APS-C camera that's more-or-less a K-3ii with a few tweaks it's dead on arrival.

Nah, at $1500 with all the upgrades from the K-3ii in terms of OVF and, let's assume, incremental IQ/AF updates it will be disappointing but not DOA. The thing is that the 1500-2000 is too broad and the extremes give completely different vibes...

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09-25-2020, 08:08 PM	#16
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia I'm just wondering how much effort they put into the AF system. Hmmmm....... The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics. AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video.

09-25-2020, 08:44 PM	#17
bencoskater Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 90	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia Ok. So the camera has great ergonomics & an awesome OVF. It's also going to have very good IQ & it's almost guaranteed that 5-axis IBIS will be included That's a given. I'm just wondering how much effort they put into the AF system. Hmmmm....... Hi, You can check here, we speculated about the AF system. Now we know for sure the purpose of the joystick as we assumed.

09-25-2020, 09:05 PM - 1 Like	#18
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by vitc The links for volumes 2 and 3 seem to be broken. Sorry about that. Now fixed.

09-25-2020, 09:12 PM	#19
SharkyCA Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 806	Originally posted by vitc The links for volumes 2 and 3 seem to be broken. Links are working fine!

09-25-2020, 10:48 PM	#20
larryaustin3 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 105	Originally posted by Larrymc Surely you are kidding.....right?? Why would he be kidding?

09-25-2020, 11:50 PM	#21
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by rawr The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics. AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video. It could be that the product is already in peoples hands when there is story about the video...that said. There is actually not much that they can put to these stories, before they have to go little deeper. So far this is what we have already seen in their introduction videos. Next it should be actually that joystick and touch screen(if it is a touch screen) then it is possibly that mode dial and screen on top. If they want to go around. But then it is time to unleash it. My quess is rahat they will propably give us 6 more of these, which is good insight of cameras, 5 of them after releasing the camera it self.

09-26-2020, 01:30 AM	#22
BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 898	Originally posted by rawr The fact that they are not making this the subject of their first or second 'Product Stories' suggests to me that AF wasn't the major focus of the K-new. So far it's all been about viewfinder and ergonomics. AF might be Story #10, I fear, ahead of Story #18 about video. Hate to jump on that bandwagon, but I feel the same way. All the stories released so far could be summarized in 1, maybe 2 articles. Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos.

09-26-2020, 01:46 AM - 1 Like	#23
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by BarneyL Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos. Or that they like playing games with us? I think that also, potentially, they are majoring on things that they believe make Pentax stand out from the crowd - good AF is the norm the these days. and while we all hope they catch a long way up, it wouldn't differentiate the camera from the oposition unless it were actually better than Canikony.

09-26-2020, 02:33 AM	#24
Karen the Star Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Sapporo, Hokkaido Posts: 150	Hope they release something amaze us, actually I get a very good and different feelings on DSLR, OVF is magical(except taking photo under strong sunshine...), also I like the shutter voice that video has shown, so keep going on Pentax, by the way, I want a renew Hd 50-135 so much, its my best patenter for landscape while I'm traveling around place

09-26-2020, 02:40 AM - 10 Likes	#25
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by BarneyL Hate to jump on that bandwagon, but I feel the same way. All the stories released so far could be summarized in 1, maybe 2 articles. Making it 4 gives an impression that there might be not much more to talk about besides the VF and ergos. It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure.

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09-26-2020, 02:45 AM - 2 Likes	#26
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Pål Jensen It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure. Much better than the other way around.

09-26-2020, 02:57 AM - 2 Likes	#27
deus ursus Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stårheim, Norway Posts: 658	Originally posted by Pål Jensen It believe it is the opposite. [...] +1 I believe they're saving the best parts for the actual release. What we've seen so far are about details that may would've been overlooked by the press when they release the camera.

09-26-2020, 03:18 AM - 2 Likes	#28
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	They're also buying time. The K-3 II is long gone from the shelves.

09-26-2020, 03:36 AM	#29
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,805	Originally posted by Pål Jensen It believe it is the opposite. The features disclosed so far will drown when the full spec of the camera is released. Now its the time to get them some exposure. It has to be. It has to have a pretty significant list of features they haven't talked about yet like autofocus and frame rate and other things. If they release a $1500-2000 APS-C camera that's more-or-less a K-3ii with a few tweaks it's dead on arrival.

09-26-2020, 03:54 AM	#30
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by ThorSanchez It has to be. It has to have a pretty significant list of features they haven't talked about yet like autofocus and frame rate and other things. If they release a $1500-2000 APS-C camera that's more-or-less a K-3ii with a few tweaks it's dead on arrival. Nah, at $1500 with all the upgrades from the K-3ii in terms of OVF and, let's assume, incremental IQ/AF updates it will be disappointing but not DOA. The thing is that the 1500-2000 is too broad and the extremes give completely different vibes...