[Larrymc]

Does anyone know if the K-new will be the same size or smaller than the K3?

Smallerby a smaller amount!!!!

[photogem]

Does anyone know if the K-new will be the same size or smaller than the K3?

approx. measurements:

hight x depth:

101,0 x 70,5 mm K-NEW

101,0 x 76,0 mm KP
102,5 x 77,5 mm K3

But the depth of 70.5mm is what you measure just from the rubber-eye-piece to the front.
The real depth is less, because the eye-piece stands out quite a bit by its own.

So my guess is that it will be quite a bit more slender than the K3 and even the KP

So:
Smaller by quite some margin and ... possibly lighter!

[rawr]

sensor SR

The return of sensor SR to video (K-5, K-x have it, but dropped since then) would be welcome. Other brands have it now, but I think Pentax did it first.

[reh321]

approx. measurements:

hight x depth:

101,0 x 70,5 mm K-NEW

101,0 x 76,0 mm KP
102,5 x 77,5 mm K3

But the depth of 70.5mm is what you measure just from the rubber-eye-piece to the front.
The real depth is less, because the eye-piece stands out quite a bit by its own.

So my guess is that it will be quite a bit more slender than the K3 and even the KP

So:
Smaller by quite some margin and ... possibly lighter!

Even with the smallest grip, my KP is not small by any means - it is noticeably larger than my film-era "Super Program".

[bxf]

Is it necessary to make fun of members opinions? I fail to see the wisdom in mocking members. It's not cool. I'm sure you didn't intend any malice, but it doesn't come across that way. Let's just respect one another's opinions without descending into mockery. Thanks. Graham

I don't believe it was Parallax' intention to make fun of anybody's opinion. He saw an opportunity for a bit of humour and took advantage. No need to be too serious

[thibs]

Is it necessary to make fun of members opinions? I fail to see the wisdom in mocking members. It's not cool. I'm sure you didn't intend any malice, but it doesn't come across that way. Let's just respect one another's opinions without descending into mockery. Thanks. Graham

Mmm where ?

[larryaustin3]

Is it necessary to make fun of members opinions? I fail to see the wisdom in mocking members. It's not cool. I'm sure you didn't intend any malice, but it doesn't come across that way. Let's just respect one another's opinions without descending into mockery. Thanks. Graham

Ditto. Unnecessary from a mod.

[clackers]

GPS is important to me so even if the K-New has GPS it probably won't give turn-by-turn directions so I'm not buying one no matter how good the auto focus and image quality!

I think you've nailed a type of vocal Internet poster there, Parallax.

When a product's launched, there are discouraging guys who if something has eight green lights, it's the ninth red light applying to them that's the reason they won't buy it. We saw that with the legendary post about the K-3, a fantastic camera that a gentleman spat the dummy over because it had 'Ricoh' printed on the back. He was unhappy with the company that paid for the product to be released.

The K-01 copped a lot of flak from Pentaxians on launch that in retrospect looks churlish, because it was fine for what it was - just ask actual owners, and we have several of them here.

It got hammered for what it wasn't, and Pentax have never revisited mirrorless.

[reh321]

The K-01 copped a lot of flak from Pentaxians on launch that in retrospect looks churlish, because it was fine for what it was - just ask actual owners, and we have several of them here.

It got hammered for what it wasn't, and Pentax have never revisited mirrorless.

Neither the "Q" nor the K-01 had an EVF.
As I suspected before I got my Q-7, seeing the LCD was a real problem outside.
I did get a Hoodman device before I got the Q-7, but lack of EVF ended my consideration of the K-01.
The cameras launched by other manufacturers {such as the Sony 'NEX' and the Canon 'M'} also lacked EVF and and also "failed", but only Pentax gave up at this point.

[clackers]

Neither the "Q" nor the K-01 had an EVF.
As I suspected before I got my Q-7, seeing the LCD was a real problem outside.
I did get a Hoodman device before I got the Q-7, but lack of EVF ended my consideration of the K-01.
The cameras launched by other manufacturers {such as the Sony 'NEX' and the Canon 'M'} also lacked EVF and and also "failed", but only Pentax gave up at this point.

And I think that Pentaxians were vocal in their criticism in ways that Sony and Canon owners were not, Reh, the NEX series and M *both* continued as products that were purchased and were then able to evolve.

I think it really is a cultural thing.

[reh321]

And I think that Pentaxians were vocal in their criticism in ways that Sony and Canon owners were not, Reh, the NEX series and M *both* continued as products that were purchased and were then able to evolve.

I think it really is a cultural thing.

I was a Canon user at the time.
Fellow Canon users heaped scorn on the "M".
The "M" was viewed as a failure in the US - so much so that the "M2" was sold only in Asia.
Around the time I joined here, Canon scheduled a big announcement that turned out just to be another sales spiel.
Nikon user chortled over the unhappiness amongst Canon users that no improvement of the "M" was forthcoming then.

My understanding as a {now} outsider was that Canon continued the 'M' line only because of sales in Japan, and gradually came to the understanding that they would sell in European and American markets only when they added a EVF {first as a clip-on device} to their product.

[photogem]

approx. measurements:
hight x depth:
101,0 x 70,5 mm K-NEW
101,0 x 76,0 mm KP
102,5 x 77,5 mm K3
But the depth of 70.5mm is what you measure just from the rubber-eye-piece to the front.
The real depth is less, because the eye-piece stands out quite a bit by its own.
So my guess is that it will be quite a bit more slender than the K3 and even the KP
So:
Smaller by quite some margin and ... possibly lighter!

Even with the smallest grip, my KP is not small by any means - it is noticeably larger than my film-era "Super Program".

Member "Spock" asked:

Does anyone know if the K-new will be the same size or smaller than the K3?

and not, if it was as small as a film-era Super Program.
Kind of as if you'd argue.... but my 110 is even smaller, why can't they get their act together.
The K-New is an APS-C DSLR with a display and you know this very well so arguing like this is mixing apples with oranges.

The K-01 copped a lot of flak from Pentaxians on launch that in retrospect looks churlish, because it was fine for what it was - just ask actual owners, and we have several of them here.
It got hammered for what it wasn't, and Pentax have never revisited mirrorless.

I loved the minimalistic retro-design of the K-01 and had no problems with some quirks (rubber door etc)
But even in it's days during a day of bright sunlight it was impossible to use the LCD and one had to, it had no OVF and lacked EVF.
If one knows how slow contrast detection in LV-mode is with the K30 compared to phase detection, one was pretty much stuck with the K-01 in a sunny day.

The stakes for an APS-C and KAF were high for the K-01 but the lack of EVF and the very bad behavior of the LCD in sunlight (these days much worse)
made it a pain to use. Picture quality was on the same level as K5II/30/50 but in sunlight almost useless.

This was sad because some great potential was not thought to the end! If they would have sacrificed the flash but option for an external one it would have been that what now with the K-NEW might come.

But Ricoh made it already much better with the small K-S1 which had OVF and was not really larger.
The K-S1 is an interesting example how small is possible without sacrificing important features.
Puts comparisons such as reh132's one against the Super Program into perspective.

[Sandy Hancock]

Ditto. Unnecessary from a mod.

Jeez, you guys: lighten up!

Moderators are allowed to make jokes too

[troika]

Jeez, you guys: lighten up!

Moderators are allowed to make jokes too

I don't get it.

[Unregistered User 8]

Jeez, you guys: lighten up!

Moderators are allowed to make jokes too

A Priest, a Rabbi and a PF Moderator walk into a bar.

All 3 were there to discuss the " pros and cons " of the new Pentax K-Sera.....Sera........



Maybe we could get back to that too,.....................just sayin'................