New K-New? Who Knew?

reh321 · 10-27-2020, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Belnan

So like a downgraded KP? For more money?

It wouldn’t have to be a “downgraded” KP - it could have the new viewfinder and sensor, for example.

stevebrot · 10-27-2020, 01:30 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by reh321

We know the new camera is not built on the K-70 platform since it does not have an articulating screen, so I don’t understand how this relates to the new camera.

I was talking about the "other" K-new, aka new K-new, K-new new, K-new Lite, etc., the topic of this thread in reference to the post on Pentax Rumors, about which we know nothing...

Ricoh is rumored to be working on another Pentax APS-C DSLR camera - Pentax Rumors

The fly that landed on my head is a personal friend of the tipster that contacted the PR admin. Those are the fly's words, not mine. I would ask it for clarification except that last I saw, it was in pursuit of a truck full of cheesecake. Since the K-70 has an articulated screen and the new K-new is made on that platform, it would be safe to assume that it also will have one or perhaps not?

In any case, we are talking about the same new K-new camera, right? The one, that pre-fly, we knew nothing about and the one that, pre-tipster, did not exist?

Steve

**FozzFoster** · 10-27-2020, 01:35 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

fly

that comment left my head buzzing

texandrews · 10-27-2020, 02:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

that comment left my head buzzing

Groan...ok, that's enough of that, Fozzzzzzzzzz.

Wasp · 10-28-2020, 07:05 AM

After months of speculation, Pentax finally announced that the successor to the K3 Mark Two will be known as the K3 Mark Three. Good job, guys!

Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery.

normhead · 10-28-2020, 07:09 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Wasp

Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery.

It probably took about as long as it took you to come up with that genius comment.

stevebrot · 10-28-2020, 07:47 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wasp

After months of speculation, Pentax finally announced that the successor to the K3 Mark Two will be known as the K3 Mark Three. Good job, guys!

Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery.

This thread, of course, being the one that is not about the K-new/K-3iii. So what will the new K-new be called? That is an even greater mystery. Does the fog wafting by have a proper name?

Steve

**Belnan** · 10-28-2020, 08:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

This thread, of course, being the one that is not about the K-new/K-3iii. So what will the new K-new be called? That is an even greater mystery. Does the fog wafting by have a proper name?

Steve

Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner.

reh321 · 10-28-2020, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner.

Especially if the "KP" part includes their aperture control.
If the rumors about a 'better video' "APS-C" camera are correct, it could also include an articulating LCD from the K-70, since videographers seem to prefer them.

**Cerebum** · 10-28-2020, 10:37 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

I was talking about the "other" K-new, aka new K-new, K-new new, K-new Lite, etc., the topic of this thread in reference to the post on Pentax Rumors, about which we know nothing...

Ricoh is rumored to be working on another Pentax APS-C DSLR camera - Pentax Rumors

The fly that landed on my head is a personal friend of the tipster that contacted the PR admin. Those are the fly's words, not mine. I would ask it for clarification except that last I saw, it was in pursuit of a truck full of cheesecake. Since the K-70 has an articulated screen and the new K-new is made on that platform, it would be safe to assume that it also will have one or perhaps not?

In any case, we are talking about the same new K-new camera, right? The one, that pre-fly, we knew nothing about and the one that, pre-tipster, did not exist?

Steve

There are some very angry people on there including one who believes animal eye focus is a game changer! I think its garnish

Pentax always had something quirky in their line (K-01, K-s1, the aggressive K30, K50s that look like a bag of haribo, KP with its grips). If they do a new entry level, it could have anything, including animal eye focus! Long live the Pentax whackadoodle gene

totsmuyco · 10-29-2020, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Especially if the "KP" part includes their aperture control.
If the rumors about a 'better video' "APS-C" camera are correct, it could also include an articulating LCD from the K-70, since videographers seem to prefer them.

I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70.

MMVIII · 10-29-2020, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70.

Are there problems with the K-70? I mean, real documented issues beyond normal failure rate of mid level cameras? I just have the impression the poor camera is bullied by legacy. However, I would not recommend it to anyone either, as long as there is no official proof of a changed system component. But to be fair, I haven't seen evidence that it is failing above average.

totsmuyco · 10-29-2020, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by MMVIII

Are there problems with the K-70? I mean, real documented issues beyond normal failure rate of mid level cameras? I just have the impression the poor camera is bullied by legacy. However, I would not recommend it to anyone either, as long as there is no official proof of a changed system component. But to be fair, I haven't seen evidence that it is failing above average.

There are threads regarding K-70s owners having experienced the problem. Just look search and use "K-70 aperture" in the search forum and the threads will come out. I'm not interested in the percentage or try to argue about industry standards. I just know some units have the problem and I don't want to buy into something and get the same problem.

mee · 10-29-2020, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner.

I wonder what autofocus system it would use? Surely not the one in the K-3 III unmodified. Otherwise they're giving away the store.

I think it will be a K-S2 type camera, maybe called K-S3.

MMVIII · 10-29-2020, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70.

Originally posted by totsmuyco

There are threads regarding K-70s owners having experienced the problem. Just look search and use "K-70 aperture" in the search forum and the threads will come out. I'm not interested in the percentage or try to argue about industry standards. I just know some units have the problem and I don't want to buy into something and get the same problem.

Okay, I did. What I found was this:

K70 aperture block? - PentaxForums.com

Quote:

but not to worry with a 2018 K70, those have an even better solenoid now, still green and still made in China

Whatever, that's not the topic here.

10-28-2020, 09:44 AM	#159
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Belnan Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner. Especially if the "KP" part includes their aperture control. If the rumors about a 'better video' "APS-C" camera are correct, it could also include an articulating LCD from the K-70, since videographers seem to prefer them. Last edited by reh321; 10-28-2020 at 02:41 PM.

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10-27-2020, 12:49 PM	#151
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Belnan So like a downgraded KP? For more money? It wouldn’t have to be a “downgraded” KP - it could have the new viewfinder and sensor, for example.

10-27-2020, 01:30 PM - 1 Like	#152
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by reh321 We know the new camera is not built on the K-70 platform since it does not have an articulating screen, so I don’t understand how this relates to the new camera. I was talking about the "other" K-new, aka new K-new, K-new new, K-new Lite, etc., the topic of this thread in reference to the post on Pentax Rumors, about which we know nothing... Ricoh is rumored to be working on another Pentax APS-C DSLR camera - Pentax Rumors The fly that landed on my head is a personal friend of the tipster that contacted the PR admin. Those are the fly's words, not mine. I would ask it for clarification except that last I saw, it was in pursuit of a truck full of cheesecake. Since the K-70 has an articulated screen and the new K-new is made on that platform, it would be safe to assume that it also will have one or perhaps not? In any case, we are talking about the same new K-new camera, right? The one, that pre-fly, we knew nothing about and the one that, pre-tipster, did not exist? Steve

10-27-2020, 01:35 PM - 1 Like	#153
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot fly that comment left my head buzzing

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texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,390	Originally posted by FozzFoster that comment left my head buzzing Groan...ok, that's enough of that, Fozzzzzzzzzz.

10-28-2020, 07:05 AM	#155
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,659	After months of speculation, Pentax finally announced that the successor to the K3 Mark Two will be known as the K3 Mark Three. Good job, guys! Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery.

10-28-2020, 07:09 AM - 3 Likes	#156
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Wasp Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery. It probably took about as long as it took you to come up with that genius comment.

10-28-2020, 07:47 AM - 1 Like	#157
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Wasp After months of speculation, Pentax finally announced that the successor to the K3 Mark Two will be known as the K3 Mark Three. Good job, guys! Just how many meetings it took to come up with such a genius idea will forever remain a mystery. This thread, of course, being the one that is not about the K-new/K-3iii. So what will the new K-new be called? That is an even greater mystery. Does the fog wafting by have a proper name? Steve

10-28-2020, 08:06 AM - 1 Like	#158
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by stevebrot This thread, of course, being the one that is not about the K-new/K-3iii. So what will the new K-new be called? That is an even greater mystery. Does the fog wafting by have a proper name? Steve Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner.

10-28-2020, 10:37 AM - 2 Likes	#160
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by stevebrot I was talking about the "other" K-new, aka new K-new, K-new new, K-new Lite, etc., the topic of this thread in reference to the post on Pentax Rumors, about which we know nothing... Ricoh is rumored to be working on another Pentax APS-C DSLR camera - Pentax Rumors The fly that landed on my head is a personal friend of the tipster that contacted the PR admin. Those are the fly's words, not mine. I would ask it for clarification except that last I saw, it was in pursuit of a truck full of cheesecake. Since the K-70 has an articulated screen and the new K-new is made on that platform, it would be safe to assume that it also will have one or perhaps not? In any case, we are talking about the same new K-new camera, right? The one, that pre-fly, we knew nothing about and the one that, pre-tipster, did not exist? Steve There are some very angry people on there including one who believes animal eye focus is a game changer! I think its garnish Pentax always had something quirky in their line (K-01, K-s1, the aggressive K30, K50s that look like a bag of haribo, KP with its grips). If they do a new entry level, it could have anything, including animal eye focus! Long live the Pentax whackadoodle gene

10-29-2020, 03:16 AM	#161
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by reh321 Especially if the "KP" part includes their aperture control. If the rumors about a 'better video' "APS-C" camera are correct, it could also include an articulating LCD from the K-70, since videographers seem to prefer them. I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70.

10-29-2020, 03:29 AM	#162
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by totsmuyco I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70. Are there problems with the K-70? I mean, real documented issues beyond normal failure rate of mid level cameras? I just have the impression the poor camera is bullied by legacy. However, I would not recommend it to anyone either, as long as there is no official proof of a changed system component. But to be fair, I haven't seen evidence that it is failing above average.

10-29-2020, 03:48 AM	#163
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by MMVIII Are there problems with the K-70? I mean, real documented issues beyond normal failure rate of mid level cameras? I just have the impression the poor camera is bullied by legacy. However, I would not recommend it to anyone either, as long as there is no official proof of a changed system component. But to be fair, I haven't seen evidence that it is failing above average. There are threads regarding K-70s owners having experienced the problem. Just look search and use "K-70 aperture" in the search forum and the threads will come out. I'm not interested in the percentage or try to argue about industry standards. I just know some units have the problem and I don't want to buy into something and get the same problem.

10-29-2020, 03:56 AM	#164
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by Belnan Ironically it could be called the K-n. If they put in the new sensor and viewfinder into a k-70/kp hybrid it might be a real winner. I wonder what autofocus system it would use? Surely not the one in the K-3 III unmodified. Otherwise they're giving away the store. I think it will be a K-S2 type camera, maybe called K-S3.

10-29-2020, 05:28 AM	#165
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by totsmuyco I just hope this video oriented camera doesn't use that troublesome solenoid if it comes as a successor of the K-70. Originally posted by totsmuyco There are threads regarding K-70s owners having experienced the problem. Just look search and use "K-70 aperture" in the search forum and the threads will come out. I'm not interested in the percentage or try to argue about industry standards. I just know some units have the problem and I don't want to buy into something and get the same problem. Okay, I did. What I found was this: K70 aperture block? - PentaxForums.com Quote: but not to worry with a 2018 K70, those have an even better solenoid now, still green and still made in China Whatever, that's not the topic here.

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