'Be patient and wait' (Kimio Tanaka)

**FozzFoster** · 10-17-2020, 08:11 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

We'll just have to be patient and wait.

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**RGlasel** · 10-17-2020, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

Since the start of July 2020:

Canon EOS R6
Canon EOS R5
Leica M10-R
Nikon Z5
Sony a7S III
Olympus OM-D E-M10 IV
Panasonic Lumix DC-S5
Sony a7C
GoPro Hero9 Black
Panasonic Lumix DC-BGH1
Canon PowerShot Zoom
Canon EOS M50 Mark II
Nikon Z7 II
Nikon Z6 II
Fujifilm X-S10

I'm not familiar with all of the above, but Panasonic's 10MP little box video camera is the only truly new device I see on this list and who knows how long they have been working on it. It has been so long since a truly new Pentax camera has come to market that a few more months won't make a difference; especially if the launch of the K-Gnu goes badly. If that happens, I expect that Ricoh Company will only suport development of the GR and Theta series going forward. SmartVision is about 1% of Ricoh and Pentax is a fraction of that 1%. Having to find funding for new product development from current sales of this tiny department, instead of head office investment eliminates the potential to plow through hiccups, whether those obstacles are external suppliers, correcting design faults or implementing new features. I don't like to anthropomorphize businesses, but we need to recognize that new Pentax products are hanging on the personal efforts of a small group of Ricoh employees in the face of considerable internal and external obstacles.

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-17-2020, 09:18 AM

I can wait. I just hope that the wait will have been worth it by then.

Zygonyx · 10-17-2020, 09:31 AM - **1 Like**

In fact, they are waiting for the Nikon D7800 to blow away all K-3 III's performances with 20% less price tag.

**jatrax** · 10-17-2020, 09:39 AM - **1 Like**

Unless the K-new is something really out of the park my next camera will be the K-1new so I know I have a really long wait.

**FozzFoster** · 10-17-2020, 09:42 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by jatrax

Unless the K-new is something really out of the park my next camera will be the K-1new

**jatrax** · 10-17-2020, 10:09 AM - **1 Like**

LOL. Well maybe someday we will. My guess is K-new by end of 2020 and then K-1new by end of 2021. Unless they decide to do a 645 body first. Times subject to COVID delays of course. And assuming the whole world doesn't just melt down and collapse in the mean time.................

Kunzite · 10-17-2020, 02:15 PM

There was a similar tweet a while ago, Mr. Tanaka saying the camera wouldn't be available in summer as he hoped.

totsmuyco · 10-17-2020, 02:53 PM - **1 Like**

COVID has hampered all businesses in the Philippines. Cebu was hardly hit months ago. This is where Pentax's factory is located. It was under Expanded Community Quarantine for several months limiting the movements of people and goods. This might be the reason for the delay. If not, they must be redoing something with the camera's design or functions.

**Fontan** · 10-17-2020, 02:55 PM - **7 Likes**

Ahhhhh - must be scrambling to incorporate the flippy into the body, aren't they?

totsmuyco · 10-17-2020, 04:09 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Fontan

Ahhhhh - must be scrambling to incorporate the flippy into the body, aren't they?

Maybe you're right. After all majority of the feedback on the camera without the flippy screen was negative. Most of us expected that feature especially that it is available on the KP. Maybe they listened to us here.

Who knows???

Smolk · 10-17-2020, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

Cebu was hardly hit months ago.

Do you mean it was hit in a hard way? “Hardly” suggests it wasn't hit at all. Just to know for sure

**c.a.m** · 10-17-2020, 05:08 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by totsmuyco

COVID has hampered all businesses in the Philippines. Cebu was hardly hit months ago. This is where Pentax's factory is located. It was under Expanded Community Quarantine for several months limiting the movements of people and goods. This might be the reason for the delay. If not, they must be redoing something with the camera's design or functions.

Unfortunately, the activities of many companies have been affected by the pandemic. However, I don't think we have any insight into the actual situation concerning the production of the new APS-C camera. It's possible that It's still in the final stage of development and not in full-scale production yet, proceeding according to plan. Or, it's been held up in production. Or, there's been a late development hiccup. Who knows?

Although Ricoh Imaging's development manager for the new camera mentioned in May 2020 their "concerns" about possible supply problems, he believed they would make the launch happen in 2020. And their marketing manager stated "You can expect the arrival of the new APS-C format SLR flagship by the end of this year [2020]."

It will be interesting to see whether Ricoh Imaging provides any update to their broad timeline. In the meantime, I don't think that there has been any "delay" in the sense of missing a specific date.

- Craig

OoKU · 10-17-2020, 05:36 PM - **11 Likes**

There has been no delay, just because Mr Tanaka's previous estimate was not accurate.

**Larrymc** · 10-17-2020, 07:20 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by OoKU

There has been no delay, just because Mr Tanaka's previous estimate was not accurate.

Finally, someone who knows what's going on, many thanks for the post!!

10-17-2020, 08:21 AM	#17
RGlasel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Saskatoon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,227	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Since the start of July 2020: Canon EOS R6 Canon EOS R5 Leica M10-R Nikon Z5 Sony a7S III Olympus OM-D E-M10 IV Panasonic Lumix DC-S5 Sony a7C GoPro Hero9 Black Panasonic Lumix DC-BGH1 Canon PowerShot Zoom Canon EOS M50 Mark II Nikon Z7 II Nikon Z6 II Fujifilm X-S10 I'm not familiar with all of the above, but Panasonic's 10MP little box video camera is the only truly new device I see on this list and who knows how long they have been working on it. It has been so long since a truly new Pentax camera has come to market that a few more months won't make a difference; especially if the launch of the K-Gnu goes badly. If that happens, I expect that Ricoh Company will only suport development of the GR and Theta series going forward. SmartVision is about 1% of Ricoh and Pentax is a fraction of that 1%. Having to find funding for new product development from current sales of this tiny department, instead of head office investment eliminates the potential to plow through hiccups, whether those obstacles are external suppliers, correcting design faults or implementing new features. I don't like to anthropomorphize businesses, but we need to recognize that new Pentax products are hanging on the personal efforts of a small group of Ricoh employees in the face of considerable internal and external obstacles.

10-17-2020, 05:08 PM - 2 Likes	#28
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by totsmuyco COVID has hampered all businesses in the Philippines. Cebu was hardly hit months ago. This is where Pentax's factory is located. It was under Expanded Community Quarantine for several months limiting the movements of people and goods. This might be the reason for the delay. If not, they must be redoing something with the camera's design or functions. Unfortunately, the activities of many companies have been affected by the pandemic. However, I don't think we have any insight into the actual situation concerning the production of the new APS-C camera. It's possible that It's still in the final stage of development and not in full-scale production yet, proceeding according to plan. Or, it's been held up in production. Or, there's been a late development hiccup. Who knows? Although Ricoh Imaging's development manager for the new camera mentioned in May 2020 their "concerns" about possible supply problems, he believed they would make the launch happen in 2020. And their marketing manager stated "You can expect the arrival of the new APS-C format SLR flagship by the end of this year [2020]." It will be interesting to see whether Ricoh Imaging provides any update to their broad timeline. In the meantime, I don't think that there has been any "delay" in the sense of missing a specific date. - Craig Last edited by c.a.m; 10-17-2020 at 05:47 PM.

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10-17-2020, 09:18 AM	#18
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	I can wait. I just hope that the wait will have been worth it by then.

10-17-2020, 09:31 AM - 1 Like	#19
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	In fact, they are waiting for the Nikon D7800 to blow away all K-3 III's performances with 20% less price tag.

10-17-2020, 09:39 AM - 1 Like	#20
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Unless the K-new is something really out of the park my next camera will be the K-1new so I know I have a really long wait.

10-17-2020, 09:42 AM - 3 Likes	#21
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by jatrax Unless the K-new is something really out of the park my next camera will be the K-1new

10-17-2020, 10:09 AM - 1 Like	#22
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	LOL. Well maybe someday we will. My guess is K-new by end of 2020 and then K-1new by end of 2021. Unless they decide to do a 645 body first. Times subject to COVID delays of course. And assuming the whole world doesn't just melt down and collapse in the mean time.................

10-17-2020, 02:15 PM	#23
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	There was a similar tweet a while ago, Mr. Tanaka saying the camera wouldn't be available in summer as he hoped.

10-17-2020, 02:53 PM - 1 Like	#24
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	COVID has hampered all businesses in the Philippines. Cebu was hardly hit months ago. This is where Pentax's factory is located. It was under Expanded Community Quarantine for several months limiting the movements of people and goods. This might be the reason for the delay. If not, they must be redoing something with the camera's design or functions.

10-17-2020, 02:55 PM - 7 Likes	#25
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Ahhhhh - must be scrambling to incorporate the flippy into the body, aren't they?

10-17-2020, 04:09 PM - 2 Likes	#26
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by Fontan Ahhhhh - must be scrambling to incorporate the flippy into the body, aren't they? Maybe you're right. After all majority of the feedback on the camera without the flippy screen was negative. Most of us expected that feature especially that it is available on the KP. Maybe they listened to us here. Who knows???

10-17-2020, 04:47 PM	#27
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by totsmuyco Cebu was hardly hit months ago. Do you mean it was hit in a hard way? “Hardly” suggests it wasn't hit at all. Just to know for sure

10-17-2020, 05:36 PM - 11 Likes	#29
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	There has been no delay, just because Mr Tanaka's previous estimate was not accurate.

10-17-2020, 07:20 PM - 2 Likes	#30
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by OoKU There has been no delay, just because Mr Tanaka's previous estimate was not accurate. Finally, someone who knows what's going on, many thanks for the post!!

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