[New video Oct 27] New information about upcoming APS-C flagship model

**ehrwien** · 10-26-2020, 06:50 PM - **1 Like**

USB Connection USB 3.2 Gen1 / Type-C is great!
Bluetooth 4.2 on board
But no ac wireless, only b/g/n

nzondlo · 10-26-2020, 06:53 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Wheatridger

I almost bought a The price is... daunting. I paid that much for my K-1 years ago. But considering that my K-3 is worth no more than $300-400 now, that's a big jump!

At that price, it's directly competitive with the K-1. I wonder how many will choose the APS-C flagship instead? Probably depends on the lenses you have.

All the geriatrics here were screaming about how it's not a problem that we're moving to niche. Well, get ready to pay niche prices

.

DaveSimo · 10-26-2020, 06:56 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wheatridger

I almost bought a Fuji today. Glad I didn't, now that I've seen this. Everything looks great so far. I might wind up preferring this to my K-1. What's the weight, that's my biggest remaining question. The price is... daunting. I paid that much for my K-1 years ago. But considering that my K-3 is worth no more than $300-400 now, that's a big jump!

At that price, it's directly competitive with the K-1. I wonder how many will choose the APS-C flagship instead? Probably depends on the lenses you have.

I think with a new 21mm Ltd, this would be a hell of a street photo/video combination

---------- Post added 10-26-20 at 06:58 PM ----------

Originally posted by ehrwien

USB Connection USB 3.2 Gen1 / Type-C is great!
Bluetooth 4.2 on board
But no ac wireless, only b/g/n

True, would've been nice but 'n' still supports 300Mbps. That should be roughly 2 photos per second if it operates at this maximum speed

mee · 10-26-2020, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by ehrwien

market price in the upper 200,000 ¥ range (200,000 ¥ is about $1900) (which means it will cost 250,000 ¥ to 290,000 ¥ or $2,400 to $2,800 ?)

Yes the voice over said upper 200k range. Did he mean upper 200k as it was translated by the voice over, so around 2800 USD or did he really mean around 200000 yen which would be roughly 1900 USD?

Either way, hope you saved your milk money.

**mattt** · 10-26-2020, 07:02 PM

They should fire their Marketing agency. Sell the sizzle not the steak.

nzondlo · 10-26-2020, 07:07 PM

Also notable: 1st slot is UHS-II but not 2nd slot.

RAW buffer size is 32 frames (on high, but RAW doesn't have a quality setting?) So that's a little less than 3 seconds. I feel like with how fast and cheap memory has gotten, we could do 5 to 6 seconds worth of buffer in 2020.

Also, 101 phase detect points and 25 cross type is also a little off where we could be. It's not a does-all-things the best kind of camera, but what it does it should do really well.

neokind · 10-26-2020, 07:11 PM

That’s a nice feature set, and a big upgrade from the k3ii. Upgrading one slot to uh-ii, 12fps, touchscreen, and upgraded video features to 4K at 30pand 1080 at 60p. Nice. Looking forward to seeing the final version.

---------- Post added 10-26-20 at 07:13 PM ----------

Originally posted by nzondlo

All the geriatrics here were screaming about how it's not a problem that we're moving to niche. Well, get ready to pay niche prices

.

😂🤣 On point.

**pres589** · 10-26-2020, 07:16 PM

Dumb name but it's not shocking; how many cameras has Ricoh called "GR"?

The price really isn't that out of line; a top-flight APS-C body like this costs something like this and has for a while. $1900USD would put it between the Fuji XPro3 and X-T4. Sort of hard to know what else to compare this to right now and we're probably not smart to try to make too many comparisons.

JPT · 10-26-2020, 07:18 PM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by mee

Yes the voice over said upper 200k range. Did he mean upper 200k as it was translated by the voice over, so around 2800 USD or did he really mean around 200000 yen which would be roughly 1900 USD?

Either way, hope you saved your milk money.

He is talking about the official Japanese price. It won’t work out like the direct translation. It never does.

For comparison, the K-1 II is officially 259,800 yen on the Ricoh site, but it doesn’t actually sell for that at retailers, even on Day 1. Also, the US price was considerably lower at release.

And sure, I could buy a second hand K-3II, D500 or K-1 for less, but I won’t. I want a K-3 III. I thought another name would be better, but I guess this silences the people who are obsessed with models having a literal successor.

The specs look very good. It’s only a small detail, but I like the addition of highlight-weighted metering. It’s useful on the GR III.

VSTAR · 10-26-2020, 07:22 PM

If my calculations are correct...
200000 yen is approximately 1900 Us ($2500) CDN. The full frame KII is only a few hundred more....hopefully when released North American price is not a straight currency conversion.

RobG · 10-26-2020, 07:24 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robbiec

Not listed per se but playback view option lists
GPS information (latitude, longitude, altitude, Coordinated Universal Time)

That may only mean that it can record it with the GPS accessory. I really hope GPS is internal, though. It would be nice to dispense with the OGPS-1. Looking at the specs, the camera looks good. I'm just sad that it won't arrive until February.

mee · 10-26-2020, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by JPT

He is talking about the official Japanese price. It won’t work out like the direct translation. It never does.

For comparison, the K-1 II is officially 259,800 yen on the Ricoh site, but it doesn’t actually sell for that at retailers, even on Day 1. Also, the US price was considerably lower at release.

That's useful information. Thanks! So if this is priced around the same, it should come in around 1800-2000 USD.

Originally posted by JPT

And sure, I could buy a second hand K-3II, D500 or K-1 for less, but I won’t. I want a K-3 III. I thought another name would be better, but I guess this silences the people who are obsessed with models having a literal successor.

The specs look very good. It’s only a small detail, but I like the addition of highlight-weighted metering. It’s useful on the GR III.

I'm not sure why you told me this. I didn't make any claims of buying any camera, A K-3II, D500, K-1 or anything else. I don't want to argue subjectivity, because it leads to a circle of nowhere.

**sergysergy** · 10-26-2020, 07:26 PM

Min 5.20 - It sounds like it took them months to decide the name

I like what I see. Hopefully price will be lower.

**ramseybuckeye** · 10-26-2020, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by robbiec

Not listed perse but playback view option lists
GPS information (latitude, longitude, altitude, Coordinated Universal Time)

I don't think there is a GPS, that playback info is also listed for the KP on the Ricoh Imaging website, and the KP has no GPS.

Spock · 10-26-2020, 07:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by luftfluss

Frankly, I'm shocked the name is K-3 Mark III, given that there is a new body design.

Would have made more sense to call it a K2.

10-26-2020, 07:07 PM	#21
nzondlo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 186	Also notable: 1st slot is UHS-II but not 2nd slot. RAW buffer size is 32 frames (on high, but RAW doesn't have a quality setting?) So that's a little less than 3 seconds. I feel like with how fast and cheap memory has gotten, we could do 5 to 6 seconds worth of buffer in 2020. Also, 101 phase detect points and 25 cross type is also a little off where we could be. It's not a does-all-things the best kind of camera, but what it does it should do really well. Last edited by nzondlo; 10-26-2020 at 07:13 PM.

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10-26-2020, 06:50 PM - 1 Like	#16
ehrwien Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,783 Original Poster	USB Connection USB 3.2 Gen1 / Type-C is great! Bluetooth 4.2 on board But no ac wireless, only b/g/n

10-26-2020, 06:53 PM - 3 Likes	#17
nzondlo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 186	Originally posted by Wheatridger I almost bought a The price is... daunting. I paid that much for my K-1 years ago. But considering that my K-3 is worth no more than $300-400 now, that's a big jump! At that price, it's directly competitive with the K-1. I wonder how many will choose the APS-C flagship instead? Probably depends on the lenses you have. All the geriatrics here were screaming about how it's not a problem that we're moving to niche. Well, get ready to pay niche prices .

10-26-2020, 06:56 PM - 1 Like	#18
DaveSimo Forum Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 68	Originally posted by Wheatridger I almost bought a Fuji today. Glad I didn't, now that I've seen this. Everything looks great so far. I might wind up preferring this to my K-1. What's the weight, that's my biggest remaining question. The price is... daunting. I paid that much for my K-1 years ago. But considering that my K-3 is worth no more than $300-400 now, that's a big jump! At that price, it's directly competitive with the K-1. I wonder how many will choose the APS-C flagship instead? Probably depends on the lenses you have. I think with a new 21mm Ltd, this would be a hell of a street photo/video combination ---------- Post added 10-26-20 at 06:58 PM ---------- Originally posted by ehrwien USB Connection USB 3.2 Gen1 / Type-C is great! Bluetooth 4.2 on board But no ac wireless, only b/g/n True, would've been nice but 'n' still supports 300Mbps. That should be roughly 2 photos per second if it operates at this maximum speed

10-26-2020, 07:01 PM	#19
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by ehrwien market price in the upper 200,000 ¥ range (200,000 ¥ is about $1900) (which means it will cost 250,000 ¥ to 290,000 ¥ or $2,400 to $2,800 ?) Yes the voice over said upper 200k range. Did he mean upper 200k as it was translated by the voice over, so around 2800 USD or did he really mean around 200000 yen which would be roughly 1900 USD? Either way, hope you saved your milk money.

10-26-2020, 07:02 PM	#20
mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	They should fire their Marketing agency. Sell the sizzle not the steak.

10-26-2020, 07:11 PM	#22
neokind Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 336	That’s a nice feature set, and a big upgrade from the k3ii. Upgrading one slot to uh-ii, 12fps, touchscreen, and upgraded video features to 4K at 30pand 1080 at 60p. Nice. Looking forward to seeing the final version. ---------- Post added 10-26-20 at 07:13 PM ---------- Originally posted by nzondlo All the geriatrics here were screaming about how it's not a problem that we're moving to niche. Well, get ready to pay niche prices . 😂🤣 On point.

10-26-2020, 07:16 PM	#23
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	Dumb name but it's not shocking; how many cameras has Ricoh called "GR"? The price really isn't that out of line; a top-flight APS-C body like this costs something like this and has for a while. $1900USD would put it between the Fuji XPro3 and X-T4. Sort of hard to know what else to compare this to right now and we're probably not smart to try to make too many comparisons.

10-26-2020, 07:18 PM - 6 Likes	#24
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by mee Yes the voice over said upper 200k range. Did he mean upper 200k as it was translated by the voice over, so around 2800 USD or did he really mean around 200000 yen which would be roughly 1900 USD? Either way, hope you saved your milk money. He is talking about the official Japanese price. It won’t work out like the direct translation. It never does. For comparison, the K-1 II is officially 259,800 yen on the Ricoh site, but it doesn’t actually sell for that at retailers, even on Day 1. Also, the US price was considerably lower at release. And sure, I could buy a second hand K-3II, D500 or K-1 for less, but I won’t. I want a K-3 III. I thought another name would be better, but I guess this silences the people who are obsessed with models having a literal successor. The specs look very good. It’s only a small detail, but I like the addition of highlight-weighted metering. It’s useful on the GR III.

10-26-2020, 07:22 PM	#25
VSTAR Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 390	If my calculations are correct... 200000 yen is approximately 1900 Us ($2500) CDN. The full frame KII is only a few hundred more....hopefully when released North American price is not a straight currency conversion.

10-26-2020, 07:24 PM - 1 Like	#26
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,902	Originally posted by robbiec Not listed per se but playback view option lists GPS information (latitude, longitude, altitude, Coordinated Universal Time) That may only mean that it can record it with the GPS accessory. I really hope GPS is internal, though. It would be nice to dispense with the OGPS-1. Looking at the specs, the camera looks good. I'm just sad that it won't arrive until February.

10-26-2020, 07:25 PM	#27
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by JPT He is talking about the official Japanese price. It won’t work out like the direct translation. It never does. For comparison, the K-1 II is officially 259,800 yen on the Ricoh site, but it doesn’t actually sell for that at retailers, even on Day 1. Also, the US price was considerably lower at release. That's useful information. Thanks! So if this is priced around the same, it should come in around 1800-2000 USD. Originally posted by JPT And sure, I could buy a second hand K-3II, D500 or K-1 for less, but I won’t. I want a K-3 III. I thought another name would be better, but I guess this silences the people who are obsessed with models having a literal successor. The specs look very good. It’s only a small detail, but I like the addition of highlight-weighted metering. It’s useful on the GR III. I'm not sure why you told me this. I didn't make any claims of buying any camera, A K-3II, D500, K-1 or anything else. I don't want to argue subjectivity, because it leads to a circle of nowhere.

10-26-2020, 07:26 PM	#28
sergysergy Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,175	Min 5.20 - It sounds like it took them months to decide the name I like what I see. Hopefully price will be lower.

10-26-2020, 07:27 PM	#29
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,294	Originally posted by robbiec Not listed perse but playback view option lists GPS information (latitude, longitude, altitude, Coordinated Universal Time) I don't think there is a GPS, that playback info is also listed for the KP on the Ricoh Imaging website, and the KP has no GPS.

10-26-2020, 07:27 PM - 1 Like	#30
Spock Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 674	Originally posted by luftfluss Frankly, I'm shocked the name is K-3 Mark III, given that there is a new body design. Would have made more sense to call it a K2.