[New video Oct 27] New information about upcoming APS-C flagship model

**Pål Jensen** · 10-27-2020, 06:17 AM - **5 Likes**

I'm mostly interested in the "dramatic improvement of image quality"...

bvg · 10-27-2020, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by surfar

A7lll is 1698 now as well.

...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice!

fsge · 10-27-2020, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I suspect that name is reserved for the second FF body. The K-1 II replacement will be called K-1 III probably.....

Or Maybe a ML at some point

Doundounba · 10-27-2020, 06:46 AM

Well, specs seem decent. 12 fps mechanical shutter with nice buffer draws my attention. 1/200s flash sync. No mention of focus bracketing/stacking yet, but that doesn't mean it won't be there. Same weight as K-3. New viewfinder might be interesting. Fixed rear screen is a bummer. Better video is welcomed but hardly exciting by now. Expected price is very, very expensive for me. Availability still not for several months. I'll have to think about it, but it looks like I still have plenty of time to do just that...

normhead · 10-27-2020, 06:48 AM - **2 Likes**

Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price.

Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get a feeling on how it might work in your hands.

gatorguy · 10-27-2020, 06:51 AM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by bvg

...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice!

Rebuilding my (excellent!) lens collection for a new platform would make it a non-starter for me.

**Serkevan** · 10-27-2020, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I'm mostly interested in the "dramatic improvement of image quality"...

I doubt it will be a game changer. The K-1 is still very much up there in terms of FF IQ and it's a 6-7 year old sensor. The KP already has spectacular IQ. Most modern cameras are largely comparable - the Pentaxes are a touch better because they don't have any OSPDAF, but it's not really super noticeable.

normhead · 10-27-2020, 06:52 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by bvg

...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice!

Not if you have 20 Pentax lenses. It will only be a difficult choice for those without glass appropriate to what they shoot. So, not an issue for me and many others.

Kunzite · 10-27-2020, 06:54 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

Not if you have 20 Pentax lenses.

Or if you want/need a SLR.

**Belnan** · 10-27-2020, 06:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price.

Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get agars on how it might work in your hands.

I agree, I cant see what else you could need with the exception of a flippy screen, pop up flash and a full frame sensor. If you dont need these then things then it really checks all of the boxes.

The Squirrel Mafia · 10-27-2020, 06:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

^^^K-3 III^^^
so exciting!
can't wait to see the new AF system in action

It's the only thing I'm waiting for. Will tracking finally be better? Will the 101 AF points actually be useful, reliable, & accurate at tracking something or will users still have to resort to single point AF & follow it like they used to back in the 1900's? Hmmmm.....

redpit · 10-27-2020, 07:00 AM - **4 Likes**

It looks like a great camera. If the AF improvements are as significant as they seem to be, I will be a very early adopter!

I also love some important details like this: Sensor-shift shake reduction "SR II"(5-axis) Auto/Panning/Off

These are good signs for photographers like me who need good AF tracking performance and do a lot of panning shots!

tvdtvdtvd · 10-27-2020, 07:03 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by ehrwien

Product name: Pentax K-3 Mark III

Well, that is disappointing and unimaginative in the extreme. It would seem the one thing Pentax really can't do is pull away from the camera
industry norm of silly, nonsensical, dead end iterative product names. Now that they've finally applied an iteration to a new body mold, I guess
we are stuck with a future of K1 Mk VII and KP Mk XIX. Maybe we'll even get a 'K90 MK IV s2c' some day; won't that be exciting!

I'll have my label maker at the ready to christen my ~~K3 Mk III~~ with a more deserving name.

Otherwise YAAAYYYY!!!!

**Serkevan** · 10-27-2020, 07:04 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price.

Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get agars on how it might work in your hands.

If I'm not wrong... 12 fps with mechanical shutter and and AF tracking is better than almost* any other cameras out there - and massive overkill for most photographers I'd bet. Almost a 50% increase over the K-3ii, with a similarly-lasting buffer in burst length (2.66 seconds for the K-3iii and 2.77 for the previous iteration), which is huge.

Specs-wise it's a monster. If the AF.C tracking is suitably consistent (watch out for DPR being incapable of setting up the camera) then it's hands down the highest-performing APS-C camera in the market. The lack of flippy screen is quite literally the only meaningful "but" it could have.

The RGB sensor is also the highest-resolution one I've seen so it's gonna be great.

*D6, 1D and that's it.

**Larrymc** · 10-27-2020, 07:05 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

The other forum is a troll fest; don't go there.

What other forum???

I never knew there was another forum!

10-27-2020, 06:48 AM - 2 Likes	#125
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price. Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get a feeling on how it might work in your hands. Last edited by normhead; 10-27-2020 at 07:05 AM.

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10-27-2020, 06:17 AM - 5 Likes	#121
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	I'm mostly interested in the "dramatic improvement of image quality"...

10-27-2020, 06:33 AM	#122
bvg Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 340	Originally posted by surfar A7lll is 1698 now as well. ...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice!

10-27-2020, 06:34 AM	#123
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I suspect that name is reserved for the second FF body. The K-1 II replacement will be called K-1 III probably..... Or Maybe a ML at some point

10-27-2020, 06:46 AM	#124
Doundounba Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montréal QC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,351	Well, specs seem decent. 12 fps mechanical shutter with nice buffer draws my attention. 1/200s flash sync. No mention of focus bracketing/stacking yet, but that doesn't mean it won't be there. Same weight as K-3. New viewfinder might be interesting. Fixed rear screen is a bummer. Better video is welcomed but hardly exciting by now. Expected price is very, very expensive for me. Availability still not for several months. I'll have to think about it, but it looks like I still have plenty of time to do just that...

10-27-2020, 06:51 AM - 5 Likes	#126
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by bvg ...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice! Rebuilding my (excellent!) lens collection for a new platform would make it a non-starter for me.

10-27-2020, 06:52 AM	#127
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I'm mostly interested in the "dramatic improvement of image quality"... I doubt it will be a game changer. The K-1 is still very much up there in terms of FF IQ and it's a 6-7 year old sensor. The KP already has spectacular IQ. Most modern cameras are largely comparable - the Pentaxes are a touch better because they don't have any OSPDAF, but it's not really super noticeable.

10-27-2020, 06:52 AM - 6 Likes	#128
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by bvg ...and Nikon Z5 and Z6, and Panasonic S5 too...a difficult choice! Not if you have 20 Pentax lenses. It will only be a difficult choice for those without glass appropriate to what they shoot. So, not an issue for me and many others.

10-27-2020, 06:54 AM - 3 Likes	#129
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by normhead Not if you have 20 Pentax lenses. Or if you want/need a SLR.

10-27-2020, 06:57 AM - 1 Like	#130
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by normhead Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price. Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get agars on how it might work in your hands. I agree, I cant see what else you could need with the exception of a flippy screen, pop up flash and a full frame sensor. If you dont need these then things then it really checks all of the boxes.

10-27-2020, 06:58 AM - 1 Like	#131
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	Originally posted by FozzFoster ^^^K-3 III^^^ so exciting! can't wait to see the new AF system in action It's the only thing I'm waiting for. Will tracking finally be better? Will the 101 AF points actually be useful, reliable, & accurate at tracking something or will users still have to resort to single point AF & follow it like they used to back in the 1900's? Hmmmm.....

10-27-2020, 07:00 AM - 4 Likes	#132
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	It looks like a great camera. If the AF improvements are as significant as they seem to be, I will be a very early adopter! I also love some important details like this: Sensor-shift shake reduction "SR II"(5-axis) Auto/Panning/Off These are good signs for photographers like me who need good AF tracking performance and do a lot of panning shots!

10-27-2020, 07:03 AM - 2 Likes	#133
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by ehrwien Product name: Pentax K-3 Mark III Well, that is disappointing and unimaginative in the extreme. It would seem the one thing Pentax really can't do is pull away from the camera industry norm of silly, nonsensical, dead end iterative product names. Now that they've finally applied an iteration to a new body mold, I guess we are stuck with a future of K1 Mk VII and KP Mk XIX. Maybe we'll even get a 'K90 MK IV s2c' some day; won't that be exciting! I'll have my label maker at the ready to christen my ~~K3 Mk III~~ with a more deserving name. Otherwise YAAAYYYY!!!!

10-27-2020, 07:04 AM - 3 Likes	#134
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by normhead Nothing to complain about so far from my perspective apart from the price. Everything exceeds my own personal minimum specs.... but, without seeing how the new features interact with each other, it's hard to get agars on how it might work in your hands. If I'm not wrong... 12 fps with mechanical shutter and and AF tracking is better than almost* any other cameras out there - and massive overkill for most photographers I'd bet. Almost a 50% increase over the K-3ii, with a similarly-lasting buffer in burst length (2.66 seconds for the K-3iii and 2.77 for the previous iteration), which is huge. Specs-wise it's a monster. If the AF.C tracking is suitably consistent (watch out for DPR being incapable of setting up the camera) then it's hands down the highest-performing APS-C camera in the market. The lack of flippy screen is quite literally the only meaningful "but" it could have. The RGB sensor is also the highest-resolution one I've seen so it's gonna be great. *D6, 1D and that's it.

10-27-2020, 07:05 AM - 4 Likes	#135
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Kunzite The other forum is a troll fest; don't go there. What other forum??? I never knew there was another forum!