[New video Oct 27] New information about upcoming APS-C flagship model

**alfa75ts** · 11-06-2020, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

The extra gap in the near bottom-left line suggests there’s something missing, or more likely it’s just a drafting artefact. I wouldn’t like to start another rear-screen finger-dent controversy, though.

Ummm, could be a little line that raises up like a drawbridge you think?

Kunzite · 11-06-2020, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

The extra gap in the near bottom-left line suggests there’s something missing, or more likely it’s just a drafting artefact. I wouldn’t like to start another rear-screen finger-dent controversy, though.

Not this, again...

**alfa75ts** · 11-06-2020, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

Either way it looks good, presumptive as it may be. Hopefully this is similar to what we will get but just have to wait and see.

Looks fine for bicycles, but for little birds I would have liked a few points above and below the main area. Maybe shift 4 of the green from either end.

Mistral75 · 11-06-2020, 05:07 PM - **2 Likes**

Another interpretation, this one from Hombre on Chassimages:

Source: Pentax K-3 Mark III

**RobA_Oz** · 11-06-2020, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by alfa75ts

Ummm, could be a little line that raises up like a drawbridge you think?

Originally posted by Kunzite

Not this, again...

I think the drawbridge just got pulled up.

**rod_grant** · 11-06-2020, 08:12 PM

Not a drawbridge, Rob; just a normal bridge fixed in place.

**RobA_Oz** · 11-06-2020, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by rod_grant

Not a drawbridge, Rob; just a normal bridge fixed in place.

Like a bridge camera, then?

ofer4 · 11-06-2020, 10:56 PM

The recent Ricoh post reinforces my prognostication that the K-3 III will have a hybrid viewfinder. The high price already had me leaning this direction, along with their 'viewfinder experience' emphasis. But in that post, they also show a dial that switches between viewfinder, live view, and movie modes. They'd likely never create such a dial with only three slots (about 90deg) used. I suspect that more information is going to be placed on this dial, and we'll all be pleasantly surprised when it involves a switchable viewfinder.

Wheatfield · 11-06-2020, 11:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, Nikon have predicted record losses next year and have declared their new approach will be: "Shift to a structure that secures profits constantly even when revenue drops, through strengthening the business structure and diverting the sales and product mix"

They want by 2023 90 percent of their customers to be professionals or serious hobbyists.

Make of all that what you will!

I suspect that by 2023 the only people buying cameras at all will be professionals and serious hobbyists.

Zygonyx · 11-07-2020, 01:39 AM

My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ?

beholder3 · 11-07-2020, 02:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Zygonyx

My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ?

I guess it is a subset of the items you currently can put on that quick menu info screen, where currently you have to look at the display to change it. Like pixel shift on/off, clarity etc.

someasiancameraguy · 11-07-2020, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by ofer4

The recent Ricoh post reinforces my prognostication that the K-3 III will have a hybrid viewfinder. The high price already had me leaning this direction, along with their 'viewfinder experience' emphasis. But in that post, they also show a dial that switches between viewfinder, live view, and movie modes. They'd likely never create such a dial with only three slots (about 90deg) used. I suspect that more information is going to be placed on this dial, and we'll all be pleasantly surprised when it involves a switchable viewfinder.

I'm not too sure about this, considering that the K-1 has a dedicated switch just for picture and movie mode. Extrapolating on your theory would suggest that the K-1 have decent video features, but it didn't turn out that way.

I'd love a hybrid viewfinder though.

**RobA_Oz** · 11-07-2020, 02:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, Nikon have predicted record losses next year and have declared their new approach will be: "Shift to a structure that secures profits constantly even when revenue drops, through strengthening the business structure and diverting the sales and product mix"

They want by 2023 90 percent of their customers to be professionals or serious hobbyists.

Make of all that what you will!

If it was a Western company, I’d be inclined to interpret that to mean they were intending to reduced fixed costs by shopping things out to contractors, who’d have to take the pain when things took a dive. But Nikon isn’t a Western company, so I don’t know if I’d interpret it that way. On the other hand, Japanese car makers in the 1980s kept their costs down, profits up and company image clean by relying on so-called “daughter” industries of small family workshops that survived on the smell of an oily rag and kept the nastier pollutants and work practices well-clear of the tidy industry giants’ premises, so perhaps there’s a precedent there. Maybe those “daughter” industries will now be their off-shore plants untied from the mother company. Just speculating.

Zygonyx · 11-07-2020, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

I guess it is a subset of the items you currently can put on that quick menu info screen, where currently you have to look at the display to change it. Like pixel shift on/off, clarity etc.

I guess too, the aim is actually to guess exhaustively, and we have even probably the complete infos available

**ben-pentax** · 11-07-2020, 03:03 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Zygonyx

My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ?

My guess is that the GPS on/off "switch" will be one of those functions.

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11-06-2020, 03:49 PM	#856
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by RobA_Oz The extra gap in the near bottom-left line suggests there’s something missing, or more likely it’s just a drafting artefact. I wouldn’t like to start another rear-screen finger-dent controversy, though. Ummm, could be a little line that raises up like a drawbridge you think?

11-06-2020, 03:57 PM	#857
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by RobA_Oz The extra gap in the near bottom-left line suggests there’s something missing, or more likely it’s just a drafting artefact. I wouldn’t like to start another rear-screen finger-dent controversy, though. Not this, again...

11-06-2020, 03:57 PM	#858
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 Either way it looks good, presumptive as it may be. Hopefully this is similar to what we will get but just have to wait and see. Looks fine for bicycles, but for little birds I would have liked a few points above and below the main area. Maybe shift 4 of the green from either end.

11-06-2020, 05:07 PM - 2 Likes	#859
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Another interpretation, this one from *Hombre* on Chassimages: Source: Pentax K-3 Mark III

11-06-2020, 07:39 PM	#860
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by alfa75ts Ummm, could be a little line that raises up like a drawbridge you think? Originally posted by Kunzite Not this, again... I think the drawbridge just got pulled up.

11-06-2020, 08:12 PM	#861
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	Not a drawbridge, Rob; just a normal bridge fixed in place.

11-06-2020, 08:14 PM	#862
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by rod_grant Not a drawbridge, Rob; just a normal bridge fixed in place. Like a bridge camera, then?

11-06-2020, 10:56 PM	#863
ofer4 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 428	The recent Ricoh post reinforces my prognostication that the K-3 III will have a hybrid viewfinder. The high price already had me leaning this direction, along with their 'viewfinder experience' emphasis. But in that post, they also show a dial that switches between viewfinder, live view, and movie modes. They'd likely never create such a dial with only three slots (about 90deg) used. I suspect that more information is going to be placed on this dial, and we'll all be pleasantly surprised when it involves a switchable viewfinder.

11-06-2020, 11:27 PM - 1 Like	#864
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by clackers Yeah, Nikon have predicted record losses next year and have declared their new approach will be: "Shift to a structure that secures profits constantly even when revenue drops, through strengthening the business structure and diverting the sales and product mix" They want by 2023 90 percent of their customers to be professionals or serious hobbyists. Make of all that what you will! I suspect that by 2023 the only people buying cameras at all will be professionals and serious hobbyists.

11-07-2020, 01:39 AM	#865
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ?

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11-07-2020, 02:04 AM - 1 Like	#866
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by Zygonyx My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ? I guess it is a subset of the items you currently can put on that quick menu info screen, where currently you have to look at the display to change it. Like pixel shift on/off, clarity etc.

11-07-2020, 02:13 AM	#867
someasiancameraguy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 419	Originally posted by ofer4 The recent Ricoh post reinforces my prognostication that the K-3 III will have a hybrid viewfinder. The high price already had me leaning this direction, along with their 'viewfinder experience' emphasis. But in that post, they also show a dial that switches between viewfinder, live view, and movie modes. They'd likely never create such a dial with only three slots (about 90deg) used. I suspect that more information is going to be placed on this dial, and we'll all be pleasantly surprised when it involves a switchable viewfinder. I'm not too sure about this, considering that the K-1 has a dedicated switch just for picture and movie mode. Extrapolating on your theory would suggest that the K-1 have decent video features, but it didn't turn out that way. I'd love a hybrid viewfinder though.

11-07-2020, 02:33 AM - 1 Like	#868
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by clackers Yeah, Nikon have predicted record losses next year and have declared their new approach will be: "Shift to a structure that secures profits constantly even when revenue drops, through strengthening the business structure and diverting the sales and product mix" They want by 2023 90 percent of their customers to be professionals or serious hobbyists. Make of all that what you will! If it was a Western company, I’d be inclined to interpret that to mean they were intending to reduced fixed costs by shopping things out to contractors, who’d have to take the pain when things took a dive. But Nikon isn’t a Western company, so I don’t know if I’d interpret it that way. On the other hand, Japanese car makers in the 1980s kept their costs down, profits up and company image clean by relying on so-called “daughter” industries of small family workshops that survived on the smell of an oily rag and kept the nastier pollutants and work practices well-clear of the tidy industry giants’ premises, so perhaps there’s a precedent there. Maybe those “daughter” industries will now be their off-shore plants untied from the mother company. Just speculating.

11-07-2020, 02:46 AM	#869
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by beholder3 I guess it is a subset of the items you currently can put on that quick menu info screen, where currently you have to look at the display to change it. Like pixel shift on/off, clarity etc. I guess too, the aim is actually to guess exhaustively, and we have even probably the complete infos available

11-07-2020, 03:03 AM - 2 Likes	#870
ben-pentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	Originally posted by Zygonyx My question is, what are the 22 functions to be activated via this next view-finder ? My guess is that the GPS on/off "switch" will be one of those functions.