[New product story on 27 November] Product Stories of New APS-C “K-3 Mark III” Vol.6

**Yaki** · 12-18-2020, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Probably that's why they still avoided some key subjects (e.g. autofocus and image quality) in the Product Stories published so far

Very good description of the key points. But for me there is another question that probably will define my decision to buy KIII-3 or not to buy it. It is -Will I be able to use the viewfinder - because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction.

Kunzite · 12-18-2020, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Yaki

Very good description of the key points. But for me there is another question that probably will define my decision to buy KIII-3 or not to buy it. It is -Will I be able to use the viewfinder - because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction.

I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me.

**Photos-by-Chas** · 12-18-2020, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me.

True, the diopter adjustment will do absolutely nothing to help astigmatism. Fortunately mine is helped with glasses and they do not hinder my use of the viewfinder.

Cambo · 12-18-2020, 01:10 PM

So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........!

Come on, Pentax!

Stay safe, everybody.

Cheers,
Cameron

**cl1352** · 12-18-2020, 01:16 PM

I am waiting to see how they will have improved the focusing ability. Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.

dbs · 12-18-2020, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Cambo

So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........!

Come on, Pentax!

Stay safe, everybody.

Cheers,
Cameron

"Longest in history".. I doubt it

6 months late maybe which is out of Ricohs control.

**Larrymc** · 12-18-2020, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Photos-by-Chas

True, the diopter adjustment will do absolutely nothing to help astigmatism. Fortunately mine is helped with glasses and they do not hinder my use of the viewfinder.

I for one am happy that Ricoh/Pentax has a -4 diopter correction as I am maxed out with the -2.5 correction on my K-3 with the O-ME53 magnifying eye cup.

**gaweidert** · 12-18-2020, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Cambo

So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........!

Come on, Pentax!

Stay safe, everybody.

Cheers,
Cameron

Well the K1 was over a year late. Something about an earthquake and a typhoon. By the time it was released it was already somewhat dated. Still well worth the wait in my books.

**ffking** · 12-18-2020, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Yaki

because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction

Yes - I was intrigued by that - maybe somebody more optically literate than me can comment, but I wondered whether it wasn't made less necessary by the relief of the eyepiece - like it might be easier for short sighted glasses wearers to use with their glasses on?

**Serkevan** · 12-18-2020, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Cambo

So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........!

Come on, Pentax!

Stay safe, everybody.

Cheers,
Cameron

Eh, Cyberpunk 2077 got an announcement trailer in 2012, a full-sized trailer in 2018 and it came out last week. The K-33 is nothing in comparison

**Larrymc** · 12-18-2020, 07:34 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ffking

Yes - I was intrigued by that - maybe somebody more optically literate than me can comment, but I wondered whether it wasn't made less necessary by the relief of the eyepiece - like it might be easier for short sighted glasses wearers to use with their glasses on?

I have myopia (nearsighted) which requires a negative diopter setting in my glasses to correct the problem. With a greater negative diopter adjustment it makes it easier to manually focus a lens for nearsighted photographers when not using their glasses or to verify proper autofocus when not using glasses. The total adjustment range is greater with the K-3III than with the K-3 series, K-1 series or the KP. Photographers who are farsighted probably don't need as great a positive adjustment range.

BTW, I hate using a DSLR while wearing glasses.

**Larrymc** · 12-18-2020, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me.

How in the heck can you walk straight with astigmatism correction? I got new glasses earlier in the year and was prescribed a right eye "cylinder" correction and I damn near fell down every time I wore my new glasses had to go back to standard correction rather than a "cylinder" correction.

Wheatfield · 12-18-2020, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Kobie

And that is the issue. From all angles, outside of the Pentax Product Stories series, they've seemingly done nothing. At least in North America. Europe and Japan seem to fare better though.

Consider that Pentax doesn't want to get involved in the lunatic hamster wheel that comes from having a large market share. The big three manufacturers of cameras are finding themselves waist deep in doodoo because of the go bug or go home mentality that permeates the North American mindset.
The mindset that if you aren't the biggest player in the market you are a loser has killed more than one business.
The big three are dying because they have built a business model based on volume sales.
Now their market is shrinking quickly with absolutely no possibility of a quick turnaround, and they are in a big mess.
Sometimes spending big money on advertising is a fools game.

**mlt** · 12-18-2020, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Consider that Pentax doesn't want to get involved in the lunatic hamster wheel that comes from having a large market share. The big three manufacturers of cameras are finding themselves waist deep in doodoo because of the go bug or go home mentality that permeates the North American mindset.
The mindset that if you aren't the biggest player in the market you are a loser has killed more than one business.
The big three are dying because they have built a business model based on volume sales.
Now their market is shrinking quickly with absolutely no possibility of a quick turnaround, and they are in a big mess.
Sometimes spending big money on advertising is a fools game.

Shrinking markets, shrinking number of print publications, too many models to justify should mean an interesting meeting where the marketing departments explain their return on investment.

**Cerebum** · 12-19-2020, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Eh, Cyberpunk 2077 got an announcement trailer in 2012, a full-sized trailer in 2018 and it came out last week. The K-33 is nothing in comparison

And now cyberpunk has been pulled because it keeps crashing! Lol, clearly they were working on that all this time!

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12-18-2020, 08:58 AM	#196
Yaki Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Sofia Posts: 948	Originally posted by Kunzite Probably that's why they still avoided some key subjects (e.g. autofocus and image quality) in the Product Stories published so far Very good description of the key points. But for me there is another question that probably will define my decision to buy KIII-3 or not to buy it. It is -Will I be able to use the viewfinder - because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction.

12-18-2020, 09:18 AM	#197
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Yaki Very good description of the key points. But for me there is another question that probably will define my decision to buy KIII-3 or not to buy it. It is -Will I be able to use the viewfinder - because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction. I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me.

12-18-2020, 01:05 PM	#198
Photos-by-Chas Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Northwest Pennsylvania, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,318	Originally posted by Kunzite I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me. True, the diopter adjustment will do absolutely nothing to help astigmatism. Fortunately mine is helped with glasses and they do not hinder my use of the viewfinder.

12-18-2020, 01:10 PM	#199
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........! Come on, Pentax! Stay safe, everybody. Cheers, Cameron

12-18-2020, 01:26 PM	#201
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	Originally posted by Cambo So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........! Come on, Pentax! Stay safe, everybody. Cheers, Cameron "Longest in history".. I doubt it 6 months late maybe which is out of Ricohs control.

12-18-2020, 01:32 PM	#202
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Photos-by-Chas True, the diopter adjustment will do absolutely nothing to help astigmatism. Fortunately mine is helped with glasses and they do not hinder my use of the viewfinder. I for one am happy that Ricoh/Pentax has a -4 diopter correction as I am maxed out with the -2.5 correction on my K-3 with the O-ME53 magnifying eye cup.

12-18-2020, 01:43 PM	#203
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	Originally posted by Cambo So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........! Come on, Pentax! Stay safe, everybody. Cheers, Cameron Well the K1 was over a year late. Something about an earthquake and a typhoon. By the time it was released it was already somewhat dated. Still well worth the wait in my books.

12-18-2020, 02:21 PM	#204
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Yaki because of the small range of diopter correction in + direction Yes - I was intrigued by that - maybe somebody more optically literate than me can comment, but I wondered whether it wasn't made less necessary by the relief of the eyepiece - like it might be easier for short sighted glasses wearers to use with their glasses on?

12-18-2020, 05:17 PM	#205
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Cambo So release the dang thing already, jeez...this has got to be the LONGEST product introduction in history. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz........! Come on, Pentax! Stay safe, everybody. Cheers, Cameron Eh, Cyberpunk 2077 got an announcement trailer in 2012, a full-sized trailer in 2018 and it came out last week. The K-33 is nothing in comparison

12-18-2020, 07:34 PM - 1 Like	#206
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by ffking Yes - I was intrigued by that - maybe somebody more optically literate than me can comment, but I wondered whether it wasn't made less necessary by the relief of the eyepiece - like it might be easier for short sighted glasses wearers to use with their glasses on? I have myopia (nearsighted) which requires a negative diopter setting in my glasses to correct the problem. With a greater negative diopter adjustment it makes it easier to manually focus a lens for nearsighted photographers when not using their glasses or to verify proper autofocus when not using glasses. The total adjustment range is greater with the K-3III than with the K-3 series, K-1 series or the KP. Photographers who are farsighted probably don't need as great a positive adjustment range. BTW, I hate using a DSLR while wearing glasses.

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12-18-2020, 07:50 PM	#207
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Kunzite I'm using glasses - having astigmatism, the diopter correction doesn't work for me. How in the heck can you walk straight with astigmatism correction? I got new glasses earlier in the year and was prescribed a right eye "cylinder" correction and I damn near fell down every time I wore my new glasses had to go back to standard correction rather than a "cylinder" correction.

12-18-2020, 08:02 PM	#208
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Kobie And that is the issue. From all angles, outside of the Pentax Product Stories series, they've seemingly done nothing. At least in North America. Europe and Japan seem to fare better though. Consider that Pentax doesn't want to get involved in the lunatic hamster wheel that comes from having a large market share. The big three manufacturers of cameras are finding themselves waist deep in doodoo because of the go bug or go home mentality that permeates the North American mindset. The mindset that if you aren't the biggest player in the market you are a loser has killed more than one business. The big three are dying because they have built a business model based on volume sales. Now their market is shrinking quickly with absolutely no possibility of a quick turnaround, and they are in a big mess. Sometimes spending big money on advertising is a fools game.

12-18-2020, 08:26 PM	#209
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by Wheatfield Consider that Pentax doesn't want to get involved in the lunatic hamster wheel that comes from having a large market share. The big three manufacturers of cameras are finding themselves waist deep in doodoo because of the go bug or go home mentality that permeates the North American mindset. The mindset that if you aren't the biggest player in the market you are a loser has killed more than one business. The big three are dying because they have built a business model based on volume sales. Now their market is shrinking quickly with absolutely no possibility of a quick turnaround, and they are in a big mess. Sometimes spending big money on advertising is a fools game. Shrinking markets, shrinking number of print publications, too many models to justify should mean an interesting meeting where the marketing departments explain their return on investment.

12-19-2020, 12:34 AM	#210
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by Serkevan Eh, Cyberpunk 2077 got an announcement trailer in 2012, a full-sized trailer in 2018 and it came out last week. The K-33 is nothing in comparison And now cyberpunk has been pulled because it keeps crashing! Lol, clearly they were working on that all this time!