K-3 Mark III teaser Volume 7

**Larrymc** · 12-11-2020, 06:51 AM

I love the drip drip drip of their introduction and the information about each facet of their design philosophy. Did anyone notice Wakashiro San called the Mark III an active field camera??

Kunzite · 12-11-2020, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Did anyone notice Wakashiro San called the Mark III an active field camera??

Yes:

Originally posted by Kunzite

Officially, the K-3 Mark III is an "active field camera".

I hope they'll have a lot of material about the new AF - not necessarily before the camera is launched, but at least afterwards.

Breakfastographer · 12-11-2020, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I hope they'll have a lot of material about the new AF - not necessarily before the camera is launched, but at least afterwards.

That's about the only area where I've seen no particularly strong claims of improvement, other than the increase in focus points and area coverage. We've seen this before - everybody hyping themselves up for some amazing AF revolution that then doesn't arrive.

"We gotta be extra careful
That we don't build our hopes up too high"
- Kenny Gamble, Leon Huff, Cary Gilbert

Jonathan Mac · 12-11-2020, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

This highlights the innovation, care and effort going into the design and engineering of the product. It certainly fuels my interest in the final product.

They certainly must be taking a lot of care, the time they're taking to get it to market...

repaap · 12-11-2020, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by someasiancameraguy

If it is truly well dampened to the point that mirror induced shake effects on IQ are negligible the only lead that MILCs will have in IQ is in terms of AF precision.

Agreed. Who knows, perhaps they’v managed to get some of that precision in this new camera too. As they have been suggesting(OokU). It clearly is not the same Pentax we have been seeing last yrs. And still, it is.

Qwntm · 12-11-2020, 07:45 AM

I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago.

Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM

The Squirrel Mafia · 12-11-2020, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

Attention to detail, that the new moto at Ricoh Pentax. Need to for charging higher price.

They're slowly preparing us for the sticker shock. Hahahaha!

**ffking** · 12-11-2020, 07:59 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by repaap

And still, it is.

This is my favorite bit -

Shigeru Wakashiro (Product Planning)
After joining Asahi Optical Co., Ltd.,

Mistral75 · 12-11-2020, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by ffking

This is my favorite bit -

Shigeru Wakashiro (Product Planning)
After joining Asahi Optical Co., Ltd.,

Indeed. There are patents granted to Asahi Optical Co., Ltd and mentioning Shigeru Wakashiro as inventor dating back to 1998.

eric3929 · 12-11-2020, 08:15 AM

What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography?
Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus.

Breakfastographer · 12-11-2020, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Qwntm

I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago.

Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM

In Olympus' defence, the OM-D E-M1X has the dual UHS-II slots and seems to get all the same perks as the E-M1 III.

As for Pentax, I suspect the K-3 III Mark 2 will have dual CFexpress or SD Express card slots (since XQD seems to be dead). It's really the one obvious and easy way to further supercharge this camera. Based on the published specs, even the UHS-II slot seems to be creating a bottleneck when you push continuous shooting to its limits. Part of me wishes they'd realised that those willing to pay the announced launch price will also be happy to purchase a pair of CFexpress cards. The SD Express standard may have been too new to still receive consideration, and I don't know how those are/will be priced (not sure anybody really knows at this point). Perhaps Pentax is avoiding CFexpress for space reasons, but it does play to one of Pentax' weaknesses at this point, the never-clearing buffer. So perhaps we'll see SD Express rather than CFexpress, and that's the reason it isn't included in this iteration of the Pentax flagship.

**Larrymc** · 12-11-2020, 08:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Qwntm

I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago.

Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM

Awwww, quit your whining.

**mlt** · 12-11-2020, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by eric3929

What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography?
Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus.

Anything you want it to mean. Although, I don’t think Ricoh meant this to be an in the studio static subject or portrait flag ship - leave that to larger formats.

Breakfastographer · 12-11-2020, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by eric3929

What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography?
Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus.

Since so much has been made of the sturdier prism housing, it might be referring to that. I for one would like to see Pentax take leadership in the area of weather-sealing back from Fujifilm and Olympus, and Ricoh is really an ideal partner for that, with their specialised cameras for clinical environments and so on. (Iirc they have one model you can just drop into bleach or something to that effect, to disinfect it - perfect COVID camera!)

**ffking** · 12-11-2020, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by eric3929

What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography?

Well, if the K-1 is a 'field camera', I'm guessing that an 'active field camera' is more action oriented but still very robust and fully weather sealed

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12-11-2020, 06:51 AM	#16
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	I love the drip drip drip of their introduction and the information about each facet of their design philosophy. Did anyone notice Wakashiro San called the Mark III an active field camera??

12-11-2020, 06:59 AM	#17
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Larrymc Did anyone notice Wakashiro San called the Mark III an active field camera?? Yes: Originally posted by Kunzite Officially, the K-3 Mark III is an "active field camera". I hope they'll have a lot of material about the new AF - not necessarily before the camera is launched, but at least afterwards.

12-11-2020, 07:20 AM	#18
Breakfastographer Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 673	Originally posted by Kunzite I hope they'll have a lot of material about the new AF - not necessarily before the camera is launched, but at least afterwards. That's about the only area where I've seen no particularly strong claims of improvement, other than the increase in focus points and area coverage. We've seen this before - everybody hyping themselves up for some amazing AF revolution that then doesn't arrive. "We gotta be extra careful That we don't build our hopes up too high" - Kenny Gamble, Leon Huff, Cary Gilbert

12-11-2020, 07:28 AM	#19
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,904	Originally posted by Not a Number This highlights the innovation, care and effort going into the design and engineering of the product. It certainly fuels my interest in the final product. They certainly must be taking a lot of care, the time they're taking to get it to market...

12-11-2020, 07:29 AM	#20
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by someasiancameraguy If it is truly well dampened to the point that mirror induced shake effects on IQ are negligible the only lead that MILCs will have in IQ is in terms of AF precision. Agreed. Who knows, perhaps they’v managed to get some of that precision in this new camera too. As they have been suggesting(OokU). It clearly is not the same Pentax we have been seeing last yrs. And still, it is.

12-11-2020, 07:45 AM	#21
Qwntm Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 856	I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago. Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM

12-11-2020, 07:54 AM	#22
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,056	Originally posted by bobmaxja Attention to detail, that the new moto at Ricoh Pentax. Need to for charging higher price. They're slowly preparing us for the sticker shock. Hahahaha!

12-11-2020, 07:59 AM - 2 Likes	#23
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by repaap And still, it is. This is my favorite bit - Shigeru Wakashiro (Product Planning) After joining Asahi Optical Co., Ltd.,

12-11-2020, 08:08 AM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by ffking This is my favorite bit - Shigeru Wakashiro (Product Planning) After joining Asahi Optical Co., Ltd., Indeed. There are patents granted to Asahi Optical Co., Ltd and mentioning Shigeru Wakashiro as inventor dating back to 1998.

12-11-2020, 08:15 AM	#25
eric3929 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 106	What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography? Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus.

12-11-2020, 08:30 AM	#26
Breakfastographer Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 673	Originally posted by Qwntm I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago. Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM In Olympus' defence, the OM-D E-M1X has the dual UHS-II slots and seems to get all the same perks as the E-M1 III. As for Pentax, I suspect the K-3 III Mark 2 will have dual CFexpress or SD Express card slots (since XQD seems to be dead). It's really the one obvious and easy way to further supercharge this camera. Based on the published specs, even the UHS-II slot seems to be creating a bottleneck when you push continuous shooting to its limits. Part of me wishes they'd realised that those willing to pay the announced launch price will also be happy to purchase a pair of CFexpress cards. The SD Express standard may have been too new to still receive consideration, and I don't know how those are/will be priced (not sure anybody really knows at this point). Perhaps Pentax is avoiding CFexpress for space reasons, but it does play to one of Pentax' weaknesses at this point, the never-clearing buffer. So perhaps we'll see SD Express rather than CFexpress, and that's the reason it isn't included in this iteration of the Pentax flagship.

12-11-2020, 08:31 AM - 1 Like	#27
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Qwntm I guess the guy responsible for implementing the new SD card protocol was an intern, he only spec'ed 1 UHS-II slot. State of the art - 5 years ago. Their marketing of all the "attention to details" leaves me a little flat when they overlook something big like the SD cards. Olympus did the same thing, right before the end... DOOOOM Awwww, quit your whining.

12-11-2020, 08:35 AM	#28
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by eric3929 What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography? Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus. Anything you want it to mean. Although, I don’t think Ricoh meant this to be an in the studio static subject or portrait flag ship - leave that to larger formats.

12-11-2020, 08:39 AM	#29
Breakfastographer Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 673	Originally posted by eric3929 What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography? Anyway, the improved mirror motion seems like a definite plus. Since so much has been made of the sturdier prism housing, it might be referring to that. I for one would like to see Pentax take leadership in the area of weather-sealing back from Fujifilm and Olympus, and Ricoh is really an ideal partner for that, with their specialised cameras for clinical environments and so on. (Iirc they have one model you can just drop into bleach or something to that effect, to disinfect it - perfect COVID camera!)

12-11-2020, 08:44 AM	#30
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by eric3929 What does "active field camera" mean to this group? Is it about the rugged build and weather sealing? Does it imply good for landscape photography or wildlife photography? Well, if the K-1 is a 'field camera', I'm guessing that an 'active field camera' is more action oriented but still very robust and fully weather sealed