Guangzhou | K-3 Mark III preview meeting

bavd · 01-13-2021, 01:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

The more I see previews, the less I get excited. It's not that the camera will lack anything, on the contrary, it's certainly the best Pentax camera ever made. Teasing preview sort of kills off the novelty effect , after a while, it's not quite new anymore. Ricoh should release it and take pre-orders for it.

I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long.
I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot of
spare time now.

Almost time for the K3-IV.

Zooland · 01-13-2021, 01:39 AM - **1 Like**

I’m waiting for someone to leak the operating manual.

repaap · 01-13-2021, 01:50 AM

I did look through that video. Interesting. Did not really understand what they said. And to be actually able to see those photos would be great too. It did seem to work quite well in LV even. And AF for that video mode was also more, lets say good. Was just super annoying to see that one handed opetarion because of vloggin at the same time. Regardless even one handed not concentrated handling seemed quite good actually. Now. A proper hands on explaining operations would be amazing.

What was nice, was the apparent excitement coming out of that video.

**pres589** · 01-13-2021, 02:02 AM

I think the odd looking "lens" is a 3d printed mockup of either the D-FA 21 or the sometimes mentioned D-FA 35 that hasn't been talked about in a while.

Then there's the D-FA 50 and then some zoom past that. Is that the existing DA 16-50 or something else?

**Serkevan** · 01-13-2021, 02:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bavd

I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long.
I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot of
spare time now.

Almost time for the K3-IV.

They can release it, but if factories burn, supply chains are busted and there's no way to actually get the camera in the hands of people... it won't change a lot

MMVIII · 01-13-2021, 02:47 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

The more I see previews, the less I get excited. It's not that the camera will lack anything, on the contrary, it's certainly the best Pentax camera ever made. Teasing preview sort of kills off the novelty effect , after a while, it's not quite new anymore. Ricoh should release it and take pre-orders for it.

True. I assume there is one more news story waiting on the 28th of January and in February it should be in the hands of selected testers worldwide and sample photos will be available. Release and preorder end of February. Just a guess

**Digitalis** · 01-13-2021, 02:50 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by caliscouser

Looks like the A* 85 1.4 in a carbon fiber wrap.....odd to say the least

That is my impression too. It could possibly be some mockup for a yet-to-be-announced lens, as it lacks a distance scale and other distinguishing markings.

Whenever I read an announcement from Pentax, I hope it will be something weird and wonderful.

OoKU · 01-13-2021, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by caliscouser

Looks like the A* 85 1.4 in a carbon fiber wrap.....odd to say the least

Yes,A*85/1.4.

biz-engineer · 01-13-2021, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by bavd

I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long.I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot ofspare time now.

Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ----------

Originally posted by Zooland

I’m waiting for someone to leak the operating manual.

That's strategic.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ----------

Originally posted by Digitalis

Whenever I read an announcement from Pentax, I hope it will be something weird and wonderful.

I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ----------

Originally posted by Serkevan

They can release it, but if factories burn, supply chains are busted and there's no way to actually get the camera in the hands of people... it won't change a lot

Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ----------

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I still think there may be a surprise or two.

Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III?

repaap · 01-13-2021, 03:25 AM

there was also quite interesting Laowa 15 mm shift lens what they played around with. That DFA 70-210 seemend to be blazing fast with K-3 mkIII.

---------- Post added 01-13-21 at 12:28 ----------

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ----------

That's strategic.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ----------

I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ----------

Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ----------

Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III?

Isn't this going to be released and going to ship in next month. These videos popping out already tells that it is very close to be released. it does seem quite finished already.

Kunzite · 01-13-2021, 03:31 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen.

Absolute, complete nonsense. The camera is final, and no amount of FUD will prevent its launching.

**Rondec** · 01-13-2021, 03:33 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ----------

That's strategic.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ----------

I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ----------

Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen.

---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ----------

Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III?

I think Pentax was in a tough place. The camera is now a month away from being released, but it wasn't ready and for whatever reason they couldn't get it ready sooner. Blame COVID, blame the supply chain, blame a part that was made by a third party in a factory that wasn't producing it, it doesn't matter. They decided the best thing to keep Pentaxians that were on the fence was to do these videos to bump up anticipation for it.

I think that's probably the best they could do, assuming they couldn't get the camera out of the door till February. Certainly complete radio silence wasn't the answer and they have been accused in the past of not giving enough heads up about the things that they are working on.

Kunzite · 01-13-2021, 03:36 AM - **8 Likes**

Originally posted by Rondec

I think that's probably the best they could do, assuming they couldn't get the camera out of the door till February. Certainly complete radio silence wasn't the answer and they have been accused in the past of not giving enough heads up about the things that they are working on.

And now they're accused of saying things, presenting the camera... in the end, it doesn't matter what they do, the accusations will flow.

But Pentaxians like you and me and many others will be happy to at least have the information, until the camera gets released. We're the ones that matter.

repaap · 01-13-2021, 03:44 AM

I was looking at very end of that video and this guy had it in video mode. Seems that there is continious AF with face detection now in video. He had to change o PLM lens to make it work? too bad this video was so bad quality(phone)...no? at very last when they were at the table playing around.

**Rondec** · 01-13-2021, 03:45 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

And now they're accused of saying things, presenting the camera... in the end, it doesn't matter what they do, the accusations will flow.

But Pentaxians like you and me and many others will be happy to at least have the information, until the camera gets released. We're the ones that matter.

I have always been of the opinion that you don't release beta software or products. I think there have been many companies who tried (Cyberpunk 2077 most recently?) but the bang you get for getting something out the door is significantly over powered by the antagonism generated by something doesn't work the way it should for the first two or three months after release.

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01-13-2021, 01:28 AM - 1 Like	#16
bavd Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Almere (NL) Posts: 96	Originally posted by biz-engineer The more I see previews, the less I get excited. It's not that the camera will lack anything, on the contrary, it's certainly the best Pentax camera ever made. Teasing preview sort of kills off the novelty effect , after a while, it's not quite new anymore. Ricoh should release it and take pre-orders for it. I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long. I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot of spare time now. Almost time for the K3-IV.

01-13-2021, 01:39 AM - 1 Like	#17
Zooland Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 370	I’m waiting for someone to leak the operating manual.

01-13-2021, 01:50 AM	#18
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	I did look through that video. Interesting. Did not really understand what they said. And to be actually able to see those photos would be great too. It did seem to work quite well in LV even. And AF for that video mode was also more, lets say good. Was just super annoying to see that one handed opetarion because of vloggin at the same time. Regardless even one handed not concentrated handling seemed quite good actually. Now. A proper hands on explaining operations would be amazing. What was nice, was the apparent excitement coming out of that video.

01-13-2021, 02:02 AM	#19
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	I think the odd looking "lens" is a 3d printed mockup of either the D-FA 21 or the sometimes mentioned D-FA 35 that hasn't been talked about in a while. Then there's the D-FA 50 and then some zoom past that. Is that the existing DA 16-50 or something else?

01-13-2021, 02:24 AM - 1 Like	#20
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by bavd I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long. I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot of spare time now. Almost time for the K3-IV. They can release it, but if factories burn, supply chains are busted and there's no way to actually get the camera in the hands of people... it won't change a lot

01-13-2021, 02:47 AM - 1 Like	#21
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by biz-engineer The more I see previews, the less I get excited. It's not that the camera will lack anything, on the contrary, it's certainly the best Pentax camera ever made. Teasing preview sort of kills off the novelty effect , after a while, it's not quite new anymore. Ricoh should release it and take pre-orders for it. True. I assume there is one more news story waiting on the 28th of January and in February it should be in the hands of selected testers worldwide and sample photos will be available. Release and preorder end of February. Just a guess

01-13-2021, 02:50 AM - 2 Likes	#22
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by caliscouser Looks like the A* 85 1.4 in a carbon fiber wrap.....odd to say the least That is my impression too. It could possibly be some mockup for a yet-to-be-announced lens, as it lacks a distance scale and other distinguishing markings. Whenever I read an announcement from Pentax, I hope it will be something weird and wonderful.

01-13-2021, 02:55 AM	#23
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740 Original Poster	Originally posted by caliscouser Looks like the A* 85 1.4 in a carbon fiber wrap.....odd to say the least Yes,A*85/1.4.

01-13-2021, 03:06 AM	#24
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by bavd I totally agree. This is dragging on way to long.I would think these corona times would be the perfect time to release the camera. People have a lot ofspare time now. Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ---------- Originally posted by Zooland I’m waiting for someone to leak the operating manual. That's strategic. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ---------- Originally posted by Digitalis Whenever I read an announcement from Pentax, I hope it will be something weird and wonderful. I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ---------- Originally posted by Serkevan They can release it, but if factories burn, supply chains are busted and there's no way to actually get the camera in the hands of people... it won't change a lot Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ---------- Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I still think there may be a surprise or two. Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III?

01-13-2021, 03:25 AM	#25
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	there was also quite interesting Laowa 15 mm shift lens what they played around with. That DFA 70-210 seemend to be blazing fast with K-3 mkIII. ---------- Post added 01-13-21 at 12:28 ---------- Originally posted by biz-engineer Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ---------- That's strategic. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ---------- I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ---------- Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ---------- Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III? Isn't this going to be released and going to ship in next month. These videos popping out already tells that it is very close to be released. it does seem quite finished already.

01-13-2021, 03:31 AM - 7 Likes	#26
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by biz-engineer Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen. Absolute, complete nonsense. The camera is final, and no amount of FUD will prevent its launching.

01-13-2021, 03:33 AM - 7 Likes	#27
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by biz-engineer Exactly. I've never pixel peep as much as during covid. Can't go out, but can stick a test chart on the wall and play with cameras and post processing software. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:07 ---------- That's strategic. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:10 ---------- I like the guy playing with the pentaprism. Ricoh could even sell a pentaprism as separate fetish item. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:22 ---------- Apparently, they have enough cameras to play with, themselves, but not for selling. It's like for the MZ-D. Ricoh may decide that they don't release the K3III at the last moment, they may decide to redesign the camera with a flippy screen. ---------- Post added 13-01-21 at 11:24 ---------- Like what? Pixel shift 16 shots => 100Mp RAW output from the K3III? I think Pentax was in a tough place. The camera is now a month away from being released, but it wasn't ready and for whatever reason they couldn't get it ready sooner. Blame COVID, blame the supply chain, blame a part that was made by a third party in a factory that wasn't producing it, it doesn't matter. They decided the best thing to keep Pentaxians that were on the fence was to do these videos to bump up anticipation for it. I think that's probably the best they could do, assuming they couldn't get the camera out of the door till February. Certainly complete radio silence wasn't the answer and they have been accused in the past of not giving enough heads up about the things that they are working on.

01-13-2021, 03:36 AM - 8 Likes	#28
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Rondec I think that's probably the best they could do, assuming they couldn't get the camera out of the door till February. Certainly complete radio silence wasn't the answer and they have been accused in the past of not giving enough heads up about the things that they are working on. And now they're accused of saying things, presenting the camera... in the end, it doesn't matter what they do, the accusations will flow. But Pentaxians like you and me and many others will be happy to at least have the information, until the camera gets released. We're the ones that matter.

01-13-2021, 03:44 AM	#29
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	I was looking at very end of that video and this guy had it in video mode. Seems that there is continious AF with face detection now in video. He had to change o PLM lens to make it work? too bad this video was so bad quality(phone)...no? at very last when they were at the table playing around.

01-13-2021, 03:45 AM - 3 Likes	#30
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Kunzite And now they're accused of saying things, presenting the camera... in the end, it doesn't matter what they do, the accusations will flow. But Pentaxians like you and me and many others will be happy to at least have the information, until the camera gets released. We're the ones that matter. I have always been of the opinion that you don't release beta software or products. I think there have been many companies who tried (Cyberpunk 2077 most recently?) but the bang you get for getting something out the door is significantly over powered by the antagonism generated by something doesn't work the way it should for the first two or three months after release.