Venus Optics Laowa 15mm f/4.5 Zero-D Shift

troenaas · 04-29-2021, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

The 645 A 35mm is very sharp (I once compared it to several other K 35mms, via the 645>K adapter) but 35mm is not very much for T&S and I don't think there a T&S adapter for it although the flange distance difference would allow for it.

The MIREX 645 to K T&S adapter will do that. I don't know if they are still in business.

troenaas · 04-29-2021, 01:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ishpuini

The new body of the K-3 III having less overhang will probably mean I will use the Samyang more than before, because finally I will be able to shift it all the way up, and not have it stop 1 or 2 mm short because it bumps into the top of the camera (as was the case with K-7, K-5, K-3, K-3II).

Wim

You can work around the overhang by turning the camera upside-down.

troenaas · 04-29-2021, 01:42 AM

This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter.

troenaas · 04-29-2021, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by bdery

that is true, but the shift is mostly to preserve perspective, not to get images wider.

I agree, it is mostly for preserving perspective in architectural photography.

But it is also useful when creating panoramic images.

Ishpuini · 04-29-2021, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by troenaas

You can work around the overhang by turning the camera upside-down.

That's true, but still not very practical. Also rather hard on a tripod.

Smolk · 04-30-2021, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by troenaas

This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter.

Good to know. Unfortunately, on eBay they start above $1,000 (apart from one that has damage, although the Japanese seller typically states it as Exc+++++; but at least the damage is described).

troenaas · 04-30-2021, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

That's true, but still not very practical. Also rather hard on a tripod.

I agree that it is not practical. It isn't hard to turn the camera upside-down on a tripod if you use an L-plate.

house · 04-30-2021, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

The 645 A 35mm is very sharp (I once compared it to several other K 35mms, via the 645>K adapter) but 35mm is not very much for T&S and I don't think there a T&S adapter for it although the flange distance difference would allow for it.

35mm shift sounds great. As I mentioned above more normal fl gives very nice shift images if the subject fits. More domestic architecture for instance.

Ishpuini · 05-01-2021, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by troenaas

I agree that it is not practical. It isn't hard to turn the camera upside-down on a tripod if you use an L-plate.

Ah yes, I hadn't considered that. That should work fine with my 3Leggedthing L-plate. I won't need it on the K-3 III, but if ever I need full shift on my IR modded K-3 II I hope I'll remember that tip. tx!

Wim

Smolk · 05-01-2021, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by house

35mm shift sounds great. As I mentioned above more normal fl gives very nice shift images if the subject fits. More domestic architecture for instance.

Yes, maybe I should try that once. Unfortunately, these T&S adapters appear to be hard to get.
It is of course also a relatively bulky lens, certainly for APS-C, but at 470 g not overly heavy.

**Serkevan** · 05-01-2021, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by troenaas

This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter.

I was close to snapping one up that was already adapted to Pentax but of course the listing lasted all of two hours... not surprising considering the guy was selling it for a bit under 200€!

house · 05-01-2021, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

It is of course also a relatively bulky lens, certainly for APS-C, but at 470 g not overly heavy.

I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens.

**mlt** · 05-01-2021, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by house

I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens.

There’s always the built in sensor shift, granted it is not as much as an actual shift lens, but a small amount could help.

house · 05-01-2021, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by mlt

There’s always the built in sensor shift, granted it is not as much as an actual shift lens, but a small amount could help.

I used that a lot with my K-3 II. Man the K-3II had features made for me! Pixelshift, sensor shift, gps!
There isn't much shift in the sensor though. Just a tiny bit.

thibs · 05-01-2021, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by house

I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens.

How is it optically ?

04-29-2021, 01:42 AM	#78
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Zuiko 24mm f/3.5 SHIFT This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter.

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04-29-2021, 01:32 AM	#76
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by Smolk The 645 A 35mm is very sharp (I once compared it to several other K 35mms, via the 645>K adapter) but 35mm is not very much for T&S and I don't think there a T&S adapter for it although the flange distance difference would allow for it. The MIREX 645 to K T&S adapter will do that. I don't know if they are still in business.

04-29-2021, 01:34 AM - 1 Like	#77
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by Ishpuini The new body of the K-3 III having less overhang will probably mean I will use the Samyang more than before, because finally I will be able to shift it all the way up, and not have it stop 1 or 2 mm short because it bumps into the top of the camera (as was the case with K-7, K-5, K-3, K-3II). Wim You can work around the overhang by turning the camera upside-down.

04-29-2021, 01:54 AM	#79
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by bdery that is true, but the shift is mostly to preserve perspective, not to get images wider. I agree, it is mostly for preserving perspective in architectural photography. But it is also useful when creating panoramic images.

04-29-2021, 11:30 PM	#80
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by troenaas You can work around the overhang by turning the camera upside-down. That's true, but still not very practical. Also rather hard on a tripod.

04-30-2021, 01:51 AM	#81
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by troenaas This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter. Good to know. Unfortunately, on eBay they start above $1,000 (apart from one that has damage, although the Japanese seller typically states it as Exc+++++; but at least the damage is described).

04-30-2021, 03:00 AM	#82
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by Ishpuini That's true, but still not very practical. Also rather hard on a tripod. I agree that it is not practical. It isn't hard to turn the camera upside-down on a tripod if you use an L-plate.

04-30-2021, 03:18 AM	#83
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Smolk The 645 A 35mm is very sharp (I once compared it to several other K 35mms, via the 645>K adapter) but 35mm is not very much for T&S and I don't think there a T&S adapter for it although the flange distance difference would allow for it. 35mm shift sounds great. As I mentioned above more normal fl gives very nice shift images if the subject fits. More domestic architecture for instance.

05-01-2021, 02:37 AM	#84
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by troenaas I agree that it is not practical. It isn't hard to turn the camera upside-down on a tripod if you use an L-plate. Ah yes, I hadn't considered that. That should work fine with my 3Leggedthing L-plate. I won't need it on the K-3 III, but if ever I need full shift on my IR modded K-3 II I hope I'll remember that tip. tx! Wim

05-01-2021, 03:57 AM	#85
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by house 35mm shift sounds great. As I mentioned above more normal fl gives very nice shift images if the subject fits. More domestic architecture for instance. Yes, maybe I should try that once. Unfortunately, these T&S adapters appear to be hard to get. It is of course also a relatively bulky lens, certainly for APS-C, but at 470 g not overly heavy.

05-01-2021, 04:51 AM	#86
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by troenaas This lens can be used on Pentax cameras via a Leitax adapter. I was close to snapping one up that was already adapted to Pentax but of course the listing lasted all of two hours... not surprising considering the guy was selling it for a bit under 200€!

05-01-2021, 05:30 AM	#87
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Smolk It is of course also a relatively bulky lens, certainly for APS-C, but at 470 g not overly heavy. I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens.

05-01-2021, 06:34 AM	#88
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by house I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens. There’s always the built in sensor shift, granted it is not as much as an actual shift lens, but a small amount could help.

05-01-2021, 07:08 AM	#89
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by mlt There’s always the built in sensor shift, granted it is not as much as an actual shift lens, but a small amount could help. I used that a lot with my K-3 II. Man the K-3II had features made for me! Pixelshift, sensor shift, gps! There isn't much shift in the sensor though. Just a tiny bit.

05-01-2021, 02:04 PM	#90
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by house I have the smc Pentax 28mm shift and it's also a bit bulky. I mostly use it when I go to shoot something specific as it's best on a tripod anyway but I wish shift's could come smaller so that you can pack it as a "just in case" lens. How is it optically ?