Originally posted by ChristianRock I'm not going to argue but I'd still maintain that having an aperture ring is better than no aperture ring. For some of us at least, it might not mean a thing in the world for you, and that's fine as well.
Ummm... then you are sort of implying that the lenses aren't "good enough" and the philosophy behind them should change? The design process of those lenses is well documented... and newer lenses would probably follow a different design philosophy (more about being sharp across the frame, a bit less about how hair texture is depicted, about how soft skin must look, and things like in-focus to out-of-focus transitions... etc)
Me, I'm imagining the 31 and the 77 with barely any CA and the 43 with improved bokeh from the rounded aperture blades... and I'm thinking this is going to be as close to perfect as it can get.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for aperture rings. The only FA Limited I have is the 43mm and I bought it because it makes the most sense for me as I can use it as a standard prime on film, which I still shoot, and it's still a flexible focal length on my K-3. On many of my cameras it will only work using that aperture ring, so it's essential for me. But most people who have FA Limiteds aren't shooting them on film, they're shooting them on DSLRs, whether FF or APS-C, and they're doing so most of the time in the standard auto or semi-auto modes, where that aperture ring becomes useless because of the crippled K-mount on those cameras. So having an aperture ring is nice, but for 90% of users it's totally useless.
Regarding being good enough and the design philosophy, I think that Ricoh could add quick-shift (zero size increase needed) and WR and a focus motor (very little size increase needed) without radically changing the design philosophy, and these lenses would then be pretty thoroughly modernised without losing their charm/pixie dust.
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Originally posted by phoebus Does the Japan price include local sales tax? (10% I believe)
EU sales tax is generally around 20%.. (No less than 15% by statute, but most states are within a couple % of 20%)
I've been yearning for the 43 for a while, if that price is real - I might stop putting it off. (About £565, if I use the calculation ((600/1.1) x 1.2)/1.16) to subtract Japan sales tax, add UK VAT and convert to GBP at todays rate..)
If you want a 43mm then it's a win-win: if the new prices are lower then great, and used prices will likely fall too. If they're the same price then then there'll likely be an increase in SMC versions on the used market as some users move to the updated HD version, and that will also drive down prices.
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Originally posted by jschoonj They look more true to life, which is probably most important for product photos.
I find the shots on the special site where they show them on the K1 most appealing though.
FA Limited | PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site | RICOH IMAGING
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Also a concern of mine. I've ordered the FA77 now because of that fear. And to keep color consistency with my SMC 43mm. HD coatings give slightly different colors. Not worse, just different.
The lens was out of stock but they say it should be in my hands before the release date of the HD Limiteds so I think I'm good.
I like the super-specific definition on that site:
The 77mm: "
Designed to faithfully depict the brilliance of shell buttons on a white shirt"
The 31mm: "
Designed to capture extra-sharp images of subjects such as the tip of a branch of a leafless tree in winter"