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Ishpuini · 04-16-2021, 05:04 AM

I'm remaining realistic here. But still I expect some considerable improvement compared to my K-3II. With that I mean 2 stops, would that be reasonable?

This is my use case: I'm now shooting low light static scenes in bursts of one or two dozen images, depending how high in ISO I need to go for sharp handheld shots. The reasoning is that for stacking and averaging out shots in photoshop to get rid of high ISO noise, I need XX images to get from ISOXX00 IQ to ISO100 IQ. E.g. at ISO12.8K that means processing 20 images results in noise levels between ISO400 and ISO800, which I'm generally happy with.
If I can get away with 1/2 or 1/4 the number of images for the same end result because of the K-3 mark III's better IQ, that would already be a great deal. Less images to take into the burst means less chance of slight movement changing perspective (and making proper alignment impossible), less time needed to delete them in case of mistake, less space on my memory cards/drives, less processing time...
But I think I'm being realistic since I'm not expecting no longer having to do any stacking for "perfect" IQ.

Wim

reh321 · 04-16-2021, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

I'm remaining realistic here. But still I expect some considerable improvement compared to my K-3II. With that I mean 2 stops, would that be reasonable?

Based on what my KP is giving me, I think you are being more than reasonable.

angerdan · 04-16-2021, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Gosh, somehow I missed watching this one.

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**demondata** · 04-20-2021, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

jpeg.

Maybe to jpg?

Kunzite · 04-20-2021, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by demondata

Maybe to jpg?

Actually the format is JPEG (with capitals, it comes from Joint Picture Expert Group). "jpg" is merely an usual extension for JPEG files.

**demondata** · 04-20-2021, 12:53 PM

Was just messing around, it's similar to the jif/gif discussion, in a sense. I have seen jiff, but never giff, heh!

Kunzite · 04-20-2021, 01:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by demondata

Was just messing around, it's similar to the jif/gif discussion, in a sense. I have seen jiff, but never giff, heh!

Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle.

**demondata** · 04-21-2021, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle.

You got it!

thibs · 05-01-2021, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle.

Hey, it's free so...

**mirocal** · 05-02-2021, 08:53 PM

I wonder how long will it Pentax to bring the new tech into a K1 III, two years, more? Maybe I should just get the K1 II limited and let myself be surprised one day... this life...

reh321 · 05-02-2021, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by mirocal

I wonder how long will it Pentax to bring the new tech into a K1 III, two years, more? Maybe I should just get the K1 II limited and let myself be surprised one day... this life...

It took several years to develop the tech, but I doubt if it will take nearly that long to integrate it into a K-1iii - but it is your money, use it as it pleases you.

thibs · 05-02-2021, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by reh321

It took several years to develop the tech, but I doubt if it will take nearly that long to integrate it into a K-1iii - but it is your money, use it as it pleases you.

Two years is a maximum IMO, if they indeed do it but I see no reason not to.

gatorguy · 05-03-2021, 11:03 AM

Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out.

**Serkevan** · 05-03-2021, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out.

Probable, but not necessarily true... depends on how much they've streamlined the design process with the new architecture. The KP was pretty quick after the K-1.

Smolk · 05-04-2021, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out.

Ricoh can be tight-lipped if they wish so. I would expect some announcement within a year. That would be healthy, too.

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04-16-2021, 05:04 AM	#16
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	I'm remaining realistic here. But still I expect some considerable improvement compared to my K-3II. With that I mean 2 stops, would that be reasonable? This is my use case: I'm now shooting low light static scenes in bursts of one or two dozen images, depending how high in ISO I need to go for sharp handheld shots. The reasoning is that for stacking and averaging out shots in photoshop to get rid of high ISO noise, I need XX images to get from ISOXX00 IQ to ISO100 IQ. E.g. at ISO12.8K that means processing 20 images results in noise levels between ISO400 and ISO800, which I'm generally happy with. If I can get away with 1/2 or 1/4 the number of images for the same end result because of the K-3 mark III's better IQ, that would already be a great deal. Less images to take into the burst means less chance of slight movement changing perspective (and making proper alignment impossible), less time needed to delete them in case of mistake, less space on my memory cards/drives, less processing time... But I think I'm being realistic since I'm not expecting no longer having to do any stacking for "perfect" IQ. Wim

04-16-2021, 05:29 AM	#17
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by Ishpuini I'm remaining realistic here. But still I expect some considerable improvement compared to my K-3II. With that I mean 2 stops, would that be reasonable? Based on what my KP is giving me, I think you are being more than reasonable.

04-16-2021, 05:55 AM	#18
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,642	Originally posted by gatorguy Gosh, somehow I missed watching this one. Here is a complete list of all 10 volumes with related Forum Threads: K-3 III Article Collection - PentaxForums.com

04-20-2021, 11:27 AM	#19
demondata Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 632	Originally posted by Kunzite jpeg. Maybe to jpg?

04-20-2021, 12:38 PM	#20
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by demondata Maybe to jpg? Actually the format is JPEG (with capitals, it comes from Joint Picture Expert Group). "jpg" is merely an usual extension for JPEG files.

04-20-2021, 12:53 PM	#21
demondata Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 632	Was just messing around, it's similar to the jif/gif discussion, in a sense. I have seen jiff, but never giff, heh!

04-20-2021, 01:13 PM - 1 Like	#22
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by demondata Was just messing around, it's similar to the jif/gif discussion, in a sense. I have seen jiff, but never giff, heh! Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle.

04-21-2021, 01:21 PM	#23
demondata Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 632	Originally posted by Kunzite Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle. You got it!

05-01-2021, 12:01 AM	#24
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Kunzite Oh, so you're participating in the D FA* raffle. Hey, it's free so...

05-02-2021, 08:53 PM	#25
mirocal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 85	I wonder how long will it Pentax to bring the new tech into a K1 III, two years, more? Maybe I should just get the K1 II limited and let myself be surprised one day... this life...

05-02-2021, 09:27 PM	#26
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by mirocal I wonder how long will it Pentax to bring the new tech into a K1 III, two years, more? Maybe I should just get the K1 II limited and let myself be surprised one day... this life... It took several years to develop the tech, but I doubt if it will take nearly that long to integrate it into a K-1iii - but it is your money, use it as it pleases you.

05-02-2021, 09:48 PM	#27
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by reh321 It took several years to develop the tech, but I doubt if it will take nearly that long to integrate it into a K-1iii - but it is your money, use it as it pleases you. Two years is a maximum IMO, if they indeed do it but I see no reason not to.

05-03-2021, 11:03 AM	#28
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,093	Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out.

05-03-2021, 03:36 PM	#29
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by gatorguy Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out. Probable, but not necessarily true... depends on how much they've streamlined the design process with the new architecture. The KP was pretty quick after the K-1.

05-04-2021, 05:35 AM	#30
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by gatorguy Since so far there's not even a rumor of it I'd guess it's more than a year out. Ricoh can be tight-lipped if they wish so. I would expect some announcement within a year. That would be healthy, too.