Nokishita - K-3iii to be released on April 23?

thibs · 03-28-2021, 01:14 AM

IMO, in time (yes I know...) DFA 24-70 and DFA 15-30 will be replaced by Pentax designs as these should rather be in-house DFA* designs.

There are other priorities though, and the whole thing is slow enough already so...

Cynog Ap Brychan · 03-28-2021, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by ramseybuckeye

There is usually no discount for early adopters, premium kit is sure to have some eye candy like a strap thrown on top of intro priced camera/ lens, it will be very nice though.

The original silver limited edition K-3 came with a matching grip and a very nice leather strap with "K-3 Premium Silver Edition" stamped on it. What more could a lad want?

Paul the Sunman · 03-28-2021, 02:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by thibs

IMO, in time (yes I know...) DFA 24-70 and DFA 15-30 will be replaced by Pentax designs as these should rather be in-house DFA* designs.

I don't see why? In the age of diminishing sales, every strategy for producing more with less must be exploited. Sharing development costs with Tamron or Tokina or whoever makes sense. I doubt Ricoh feels any compunction to re-invent those particular wheels anytime soon.

However, joint development may become more difficult for Pentax in future since the major 3rd party AF lens manufacturers are shifting almost totally to mirrorless development.

JASMAZ77 · 03-28-2021, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Nokishita Camera has a new Twitter message:
"It seems that the planned release date of the Pentax "K-3 Mark III Body (Black / Silver)" and "K-3 Mark III Premium Kit (Black / Silver)" will be April 23, 2021. Premium kits are limited to 1,000 units worldwide."
https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375389024005709825

P.S. I opened a new thread so that the title would be visible... rather than posting in the "next week" thread (because 23rd is not next week, right?)

That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021.

**Rondec** · 03-28-2021, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I don't see why? In the age of diminishing sales, every strategy for producing more with less must be exploited. Sharing development costs with Tamron or Tokina or whoever makes sense. I doubt Ricoh feels any compunction to re-invent those particular wheels anytime soon.

However, joint development may become more difficult for Pentax in future since the major 3rd party AF lens manufacturers are shifting almost totally to mirrorless development.

I think Pentax should keep the DFA 15-30 and not replace it. It is a fine lens and I don't know that they could improve it that much. On the other hand, the DFA 24-70 is a lens that is adequate but has a lot of room for improvement. It is one of my most used lenses and I like it, but I also would be interested to see if Pentax could improve its performance -- particularly wide open edge sharpness, etc.

I think all standard zooms have some weaknesses, but it feels like they could do a little better with a DFA *24-70.

repaap · 03-28-2021, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think Pentax should keep the DFA 15-30 and not replace it. It is a fine lens and I don't know that they could improve it that much. On the other hand, the DFA 24-70 is a lens that is adequate but has a lot of room for improvement. It is one of my most used lenses and I like it, but I also would be interested to see if Pentax could improve its performance -- particularly wide open edge sharpness, etc.

I think all standard zooms have some weaknesses, but it feels like they could do a little better with a DFA *24-70.

I do agree. I have 15-30. I like it as it is. I did not go for 24-70, because of it could be better. I bought 28-105, because it is a nice compromise. If Pentax would make DFA*24-70, I’d buy that. I’m sure that it could be what DFA 24-70 is not.

I’ll propably buy DFA21 limited. And even if there would be really nice 15 mm with filter option too, DfA15-30 would still hold it’s place. Unless there would be DFA * 16/17-35 with filter threads . As far as I know, only that wide with some sort of FF function is 11-18 from 16-18 mm. (Which is actually why I’m thinking of replacing my DFA 15-30 to that and buying K-3III to get that zoom range, but also UV ‘17mm’ FF prime with filter threads

yeah. I’m still cooking that thought ...

Mistral75 · 03-28-2021, 05:14 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by JASMAZ77

That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021.

THAT is incorrect.

Originally posted by Nokishita Camera:

ペンタックスの未発表アクセサリ「バッテリーグリップD-BG8」「ホットシューカバーO-HC177」「アイカップFU」が国内の販売店に追加されました。

Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1374984279302701064 25 March 07:19 UTC

'Unannounced Pentax accessories such as "Battery Grip D-BG8", "Hot Shoe Cover O-HC177" and "Eyecup FU" are now available from retailers in Japan.'

Originally posted by Nokishita Camera:

海外の販売店にも「PENTAX K-3 Mark III ボディ(ブラック・シルバー)」「PENTAX K-3 Mark III キット (ブラック・シルバー)」「バッテリーグリップD-BG8」が先程追加されました。1週間以内には予約開始されるはず

Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375082440515932163 25 March 13:49 UTC

'"Pentax K-3 Mark III Body (Black/Silver)", "Pentax K-3 Mark III Kit (Black/Silver)" and "Battery Grip D-BG8" have just been added to foreign retailers and should be available for pre-order within a week.'

Originally posted by Nokishita Camera:

ペンタックス「K-3 Mark III ボディ(ブラック・シルバー)」「K-3 Mark III プレミアムキット (ブラック・シルバー)」の発売予定日は2021年4月23日になるらしい。プレミアムキットは世界1,000台限定。

Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375082440515932163 26 March 10:07 UTC

'The planned release date of Pentax "K-3 Mark III Body (Black/Silver)" and "K-3 Mark III Premium Kit (Black/Silver)" seems to be 23 April 2021. The Premium Kit is limited to 1,000 units worldwide.'

On the basis of the first two tweets above, and on this sole basis, Pentax Rumors mistakenly titled their article 'Pentax K-3 Mark III to be released next week' and correctly wrote in the article itself 'Several new Pentax products, including the K-3 Mark III, are already listed at a dealer/online store and will be available for pre-order next week.'

Dieseler · 03-28-2021, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by JASMAZ77

That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021.

Previously I thought that the backorder dates (14/04) on the CRK website may have been significant for a release date, but now I am wondering if they may be significant for an AU pre-order date given the Nokishita tweet suggests a release just over a week later? Or maybe there is no significance at all other than a routine stock shipment

.

(BTW, nice avatar, is that your truck?)

Mistral75 · 03-29-2021, 04:40 AM - **3 Likes**

Prices at some Japanese retailers have been published by Nokishita Camera (see https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1376465905253707780 and https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1376483815862898694):

Pentax K-3 Mark III Body: ¥279,800 incl. VAT (10% VAT in Japan)
Pentax K-3 Mark III Premium Kit: probably ¥319,800 incl. VAT.

The price of the camera is roughly equal to that of the K-1 and K-1 Mark II at launch (¥270,000-275,000).

There is no lens included in the so-called Premium Kit.

Kunzite · 03-29-2021, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

There is no lens included in the so-called Premium Kit.

That's understandable - a Premium Kit would require a premium lens, and then the whole thing would be too expensive.

Paul the Sunman · 03-29-2021, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

That's understandable - a Premium Kit would require a premium lens, and then the whole thing would be too expensive.

I would be surprised if some of the big retailers don't offer kits with a selection of lenses. Perhaps the DA 20-40 Limited might be a popular match.

**ffking** · 03-29-2021, 04:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

Perhaps the DA 20-40 Limited might be a popular match.

Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought

**Serkevan** · 03-29-2021, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought

IMO the right kit lens for the K-3iii ought to be either the PLM or just go ham and pair it with the 150-450

mtkeller · 03-29-2021, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by ffking

Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought

They’ve sure shown it with the 20–40 Ltd a lot in their demos. Might be a stand in until the new DA* 16–50 PLM is available.

Paul the Sunman · 03-29-2021, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

IMO the right kit lens for the K-3iii ought to be either the PLM or just go ham and pair it with the 150-450

Oh, I will, for sure. My DFA 150-450 is already squirming in excitement. However, a great deal of effort has gone into making the K3iii as compact as they can get it with all the "flagship" features. Why ruin that with a big lump of a "kit lens"? This is why I think the Limiteds are a more compelling match.

03-29-2021, 04:40 AM - 3 Likes	#54
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Prices at some Japanese retailers have been published by Nokishita Camera (see https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1376465905253707780 and https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1376483815862898694): Pentax K-3 Mark III Body: ¥279,800 incl. VAT (10% VAT in Japan) Pentax K-3 Mark III Premium Kit: probably ¥319,800 incl. VAT. The price of the camera is roughly equal to that of the K-1 and K-1 Mark II at launch (¥270,000-275,000). There is no lens included in the so-called Premium Kit.

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03-28-2021, 01:14 AM	#46
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	IMO, in time (yes I know...) DFA 24-70 and DFA 15-30 will be replaced by Pentax designs as these should rather be in-house DFA* designs. There are other priorities though, and the whole thing is slow enough already so...

03-28-2021, 01:55 AM	#47
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by ramseybuckeye There is usually no discount for early adopters, premium kit is sure to have some eye candy like a strap thrown on top of intro priced camera/ lens, it will be very nice though. The original silver limited edition K-3 came with a matching grip and a very nice leather strap with "K-3 Premium Silver Edition" stamped on it. What more could a lad want?

03-28-2021, 02:38 AM - 1 Like	#48
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by thibs IMO, in time (yes I know...) DFA 24-70 and DFA 15-30 will be replaced by Pentax designs as these should rather be in-house DFA* designs. I don't see why? In the age of diminishing sales, every strategy for producing more with less must be exploited. Sharing development costs with Tamron or Tokina or whoever makes sense. I doubt Ricoh feels any compunction to re-invent those particular wheels anytime soon. However, joint development may become more difficult for Pentax in future since the major 3rd party AF lens manufacturers are shifting almost totally to mirrorless development.

03-28-2021, 03:08 AM	#49
JASMAZ77 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Perth Photos: Gallery Posts: 265	Originally posted by Kunzite Nokishita Camera has a new Twitter message: "It seems that the planned release date of the Pentax "K-3 Mark III Body (Black / Silver)" and "K-3 Mark III Premium Kit (Black / Silver)" will be April 23, 2021. Premium kits are limited to 1,000 units worldwide." https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375389024005709825 P.S. I opened a new thread so that the title would be visible... rather than posting in the "next week" thread (because 23rd is not next week, right?) That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021.

03-28-2021, 03:47 AM	#50
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I don't see why? In the age of diminishing sales, every strategy for producing more with less must be exploited. Sharing development costs with Tamron or Tokina or whoever makes sense. I doubt Ricoh feels any compunction to re-invent those particular wheels anytime soon. However, joint development may become more difficult for Pentax in future since the major 3rd party AF lens manufacturers are shifting almost totally to mirrorless development. I think Pentax should keep the DFA 15-30 and not replace it. It is a fine lens and I don't know that they could improve it that much. On the other hand, the DFA 24-70 is a lens that is adequate but has a lot of room for improvement. It is one of my most used lenses and I like it, but I also would be interested to see if Pentax could improve its performance -- particularly wide open edge sharpness, etc. I think all standard zooms have some weaknesses, but it feels like they could do a little better with a DFA *24-70.

03-28-2021, 04:28 AM	#51
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Rondec I think Pentax should keep the DFA 15-30 and not replace it. It is a fine lens and I don't know that they could improve it that much. On the other hand, the DFA 24-70 is a lens that is adequate but has a lot of room for improvement. It is one of my most used lenses and I like it, but I also would be interested to see if Pentax could improve its performance -- particularly wide open edge sharpness, etc. I think all standard zooms have some weaknesses, but it feels like they could do a little better with a DFA 24-70. I do agree. I have 15-30. I like it as it is. I did not go for 24-70, because of it could be better. I bought 28-105, because it is a nice compromise. If Pentax would make DFA24-70, I’d buy that. I’m sure that it could be what DFA 24-70 is not. I’ll propably buy DFA21 limited. And even if there would be really nice 15 mm with filter option too, DfA15-30 would still hold it’s place. Unless there would be DFA * 16/17-35 with filter threads . As far as I know, only that wide with some sort of FF function is 11-18 from 16-18 mm. (Which is actually why I’m thinking of replacing my DFA 15-30 to that and buying K-3III to get that zoom range, but also UV ‘17mm’ FF prime with filter threads yeah. I’m still cooking that thought ...

03-28-2021, 05:14 AM - 4 Likes	#52
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by JASMAZ77 That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021. THAT is incorrect. Originally posted by Nokishita Camera: ペンタックスの未発表アクセサリ「バッテリーグリップD-BG8」「ホットシューカバーO-HC177」「アイカップFU」が国内の販売店に追加されました。 Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1374984279302701064 25 March 07:19 UTC 'Unannounced Pentax accessories such as "Battery Grip D-BG8", "Hot Shoe Cover O-HC177" and "Eyecup FU" are now available from retailers in Japan.' Originally posted by Nokishita Camera: 海外の販売店にも「PENTAX K-3 Mark III ボディ(ブラック・シルバー)」「PENTAX K-3 Mark III キット (ブラック・シルバー)」「バッテリーグリップD-BG8」が先程追加されました。1週間以内には予約開始されるはず Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375082440515932163 25 March 13:49 UTC '"Pentax K-3 Mark III Body (Black/Silver)", "Pentax K-3 Mark III Kit (Black/Silver)" and "Battery Grip D-BG8" have just been added to foreign retailers and should be available for pre-order within a week.' Originally posted by Nokishita Camera: ペンタックス「K-3 Mark III ボディ(ブラック・シルバー)」「K-3 Mark III プレミアムキット (ブラック・シルバー)」の発売予定日は2021年4月23日になるらしい。プレミアムキットは世界1,000台限定。 Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1375082440515932163 26 March 10:07 UTC 'The planned release date of Pentax "K-3 Mark III Body (Black/Silver)" and "K-3 Mark III Premium Kit (Black/Silver)" seems to be 23 April 2021. The Premium Kit is limited to 1,000 units worldwide.' On the basis of the first two tweets above, and on this sole basis, Pentax Rumors mistakenly titled their article 'Pentax K-3 Mark III to be released next week' and correctly wrote in the article itself 'Several new Pentax products, including the K-3 Mark III, are already listed at a dealer/online store and will be available for pre-order next week.'

03-28-2021, 05:55 AM	#53
Dieseler Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Western Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 351	Originally posted by JASMAZ77 That is incorrect, the other article said it would be released next week which would be the week starting 29th March 2021. Previously I thought that the backorder dates (14/04) on the CRK website may have been significant for a release date, but now I am wondering if they may be significant for an AU pre-order date given the Nokishita tweet suggests a release just over a week later? Or maybe there is no significance at all other than a routine stock shipment . (BTW, nice avatar, is that your truck?)

03-29-2021, 04:44 AM	#55
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mistral75 There is no lens included in the so-called Premium Kit. That's understandable - a Premium Kit would require a premium lens, and then the whole thing would be too expensive.

03-29-2021, 04:53 AM	#56
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by Kunzite That's understandable - a Premium Kit would require a premium lens, and then the whole thing would be too expensive. I would be surprised if some of the big retailers don't offer kits with a selection of lenses. Perhaps the DA 20-40 Limited might be a popular match.

03-29-2021, 04:57 AM - 1 Like	#57
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Perhaps the DA 20-40 Limited might be a popular match. Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought

03-29-2021, 04:59 AM	#58
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by ffking Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought IMO the right kit lens for the K-3iii ought to be either the PLM or just go ham and pair it with the 150-450

03-29-2021, 05:01 AM	#59
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	Originally posted by ffking Ricoh were pushing the KP as a good match for the Ltds - I suspect they'll want to push the K-3iii as a match for the more conventional lenses - but that's just my thought They’ve sure shown it with the 20–40 Ltd a lot in their demos. Might be a stand in until the new DA* 16–50 PLM is available.

03-29-2021, 05:02 AM	#60
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by Serkevan IMO the right kit lens for the K-3iii ought to be either the PLM or just go ham and pair it with the 150-450 Oh, I will, for sure. My DFA 150-450 is already squirming in excitement. However, a great deal of effort has gone into making the K3iii as compact as they can get it with all the "flagship" features. Why ruin that with a big lump of a "kit lens"? This is why I think the Limiteds are a more compelling match.