New Firmware Released

**Larrymc** · 04-17-2021, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Cerebum

OK, that's my K3 updated. I love the way Pentax supports old cameras

K-3 Old!????? Say it ain't so!!

Kobayashi.K · 04-17-2021, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by robbiec

I wonder is there a quiet unsung engineering hero back in Japan reading through this thread with a satisfied smile on his face looking back on maybe 6 months worth of work? ....

Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion.

**robbiec** · 04-17-2021, 03:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kobayashi.K

Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion.

I did say maybe. How many cameras got firmware updates for the SMC / HD FA Limited's? How many rounds of regression testing did they need to do for each model? While they only mentioned the FA Limited's, they would also have had to regression test against every current screw drive lens DA's, DA L's, FA's D FA's to make absolute sure that something funky didn't show up. The actual code change might have only taken a few days but making sure it is production ready is another task altogether.

And whether or not it would create a demotion type scenario is likely down to the working environment and or bad management. If I was your boss and you proposed an all round improvement but would take 6 months, then I'd ask you why you felt it was going to take that long and weigh up the resource / benefits and your time analysis. Seems alien to me to threaten a demotion for a good idea / operational improvement.

Kobayashi.K · 04-17-2021, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by robbiec

I did say maybe. ...

Calm down Robbie you are taking it too serious.
BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days.

Last edited by Kobayashi.K; 04-17-2021 at 03:28 PM.

**robbiec** · 04-17-2021, 04:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kobayashi.K

Calm down Robbie it wasn't meant serious.
BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days.

I'm calm

reh321 · 04-17-2021, 06:35 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Kobayashi.K

Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion.

Originally posted by Kobayashi.K

BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days.

"Firmware update" is not a 'one size fits all' thing. We - at least I - don't know how difficult each job was, nor how many lines of code need to be added/changed.
People here act though changing firmware is an easy task - without knowing anything about it.

idontstairs · 04-17-2021, 10:12 PM

Updated both my K3 and KP with no problems.

**Cerebum** · 04-17-2021, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

K-3 Old!????? Say it ain't so!!

Actually, mine still looks and works like a dream, so, how about seasoned, mature, the patriarch of my camera collection...... OK, that's a bit much, let's go with one of the others

Smolk · 04-18-2021, 02:26 AM

I guess some of my cameras might benefit from new firmware

**robbiec** · 04-18-2021, 04:00 AM - **1 Like**

Firmware works well with my macro 'grenade', the FA50/2.8 Macro, still hunts a bit but that's at mfd and I might be a mm under so user error possibly contributing to it as if I extend out to 2m or so it just locks. Best bang for buck in my lens arsenal, always surprises me.

**UncleVanya** · 04-18-2021, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by antipattern

I did a quick before/after comparison and I can confirm - the autofocus of the my SMC-Pentax FA77 seems to be much snappier and locks on better to the subjects. I haven't had the lens for long enough to take it on a proper shoot, but when I took it on a walk I always felt it was a little unreliable and indecisive when focussing. That seems to have changed now.

Which body?

**UncleVanya** · 04-18-2021, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

I wonder if super resolution is completely software based. That would be a nice surprise from pentax if the could add it to my K3 in a firmware update.

At the time the K3ii came out it was widely discussed. The claims I recall indicated it needed more precise positioning of the sensor and those components were upgraded in the new gear.

**Larrymc** · 04-18-2021, 06:17 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Cerebum

Actually, mine still looks and works like a dream, so, how about seasoned, mature, the patriarch of my camera collection...... OK, that's a bit much, let's go with one of the others

Yep, definitely better. You are to be commended for your prompt correction, Good Sir!!

Andrea K · 04-18-2021, 06:25 AM - **1 Like**

I updated my K-1 II and also to me it seems more "snappy" with less hunting on screw driver lenses. Also the face recognition holds more the subjects!!!

**mlt** · 04-18-2021, 11:59 AM

So far, no negative comments posted after upgrading to the latest firmware - looks like Ricoh did it right. I know my K3 and K1 are both happy :-)

04-18-2021, 11:59 AM	#120
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	So far, no negative comments posted after upgrading to the latest firmware - looks like Ricoh did it right. I know my K3 and K1 are both happy :-) Last edited by mlt; 04-18-2021 at 12:00 PM. Reason: Edit

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04-17-2021, 02:05 PM	#106
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Cerebum OK, that's my K3 updated. I love the way Pentax supports old cameras K-3 Old!????? Say it ain't so!!

04-17-2021, 02:24 PM	#107
Kobayashi.K Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 716	Originally posted by robbiec I wonder is there a quiet unsung engineering hero back in Japan reading through this thread with a satisfied smile on his face looking back on maybe 6 months worth of work? .... Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion.

04-17-2021, 03:07 PM - 1 Like	#108
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by Kobayashi.K Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion. I did say maybe. How many cameras got firmware updates for the SMC / HD FA Limited's? How many rounds of regression testing did they need to do for each model? While they only mentioned the FA Limited's, they would also have had to regression test against every current screw drive lens DA's, DA L's, FA's D FA's to make absolute sure that something funky didn't show up. The actual code change might have only taken a few days but making sure it is production ready is another task altogether. And whether or not it would create a demotion type scenario is likely down to the working environment and or bad management. If I was your boss and you proposed an all round improvement but would take 6 months, then I'd ask you why you felt it was going to take that long and weigh up the resource / benefits and your time analysis. Seems alien to me to threaten a demotion for a good idea / operational improvement.

04-17-2021, 03:14 PM	#109
Kobayashi.K Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 716	Originally posted by robbiec I did say maybe. ... Calm down Robbie you are taking it too serious. BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days. Last edited by Kobayashi.K; 04-17-2021 at 03:28 PM.

04-17-2021, 04:45 PM - 1 Like	#110
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by Kobayashi.K Calm down Robbie it wasn't meant serious. BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days. I'm calm

04-17-2021, 06:35 PM - 2 Likes	#111
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by Kobayashi.K Six months work to tweak a firmware? Proposing that to your boss is asking for demotion. Originally posted by Kobayashi.K BTW NASA did a firmware update for the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars in two days. "Firmware update" is not a 'one size fits all' thing. We - at least I - don't know how difficult each job was, nor how many lines of code need to be added/changed. People here act though changing firmware is an easy task - without knowing anything about it.

04-17-2021, 10:12 PM	#112
idontstairs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Jeffersontown Kentucky Posts: 143	Updated both my K3 and KP with no problems.

04-17-2021, 10:37 PM	#113
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,829	Originally posted by Larrymc K-3 Old!????? Say it ain't so!! Actually, mine still looks and works like a dream, so, how about seasoned, mature, the patriarch of my camera collection...... OK, that's a bit much, let's go with one of the others

04-18-2021, 02:26 AM	#114
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	I guess some of my cameras might benefit from new firmware

04-18-2021, 04:00 AM - 1 Like	#115
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Firmware works well with my macro 'grenade', the FA50/2.8 Macro, still hunts a bit but that's at mfd and I might be a mm under so user error possibly contributing to it as if I extend out to 2m or so it just locks. Best bang for buck in my lens arsenal, always surprises me.

04-18-2021, 05:51 AM	#116
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,412	Originally posted by antipattern I did a quick before/after comparison and I can confirm - the autofocus of the my SMC-Pentax FA77 seems to be much snappier and locks on better to the subjects. I haven't had the lens for long enough to take it on a proper shoot, but when I took it on a walk I always felt it was a little unreliable and indecisive when focussing. That seems to have changed now. Which body?

04-18-2021, 05:52 AM	#117
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,412	Originally posted by Belnan I wonder if super resolution is completely software based. That would be a nice surprise from pentax if the could add it to my K3 in a firmware update. At the time the K3ii came out it was widely discussed. The claims I recall indicated it needed more precise positioning of the sensor and those components were upgraded in the new gear.

04-18-2021, 06:17 AM - 1 Like	#118
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Cerebum Actually, mine still looks and works like a dream, so, how about seasoned, mature, the patriarch of my camera collection...... OK, that's a bit much, let's go with one of the others Yep, definitely better. You are to be commended for your prompt correction, Good Sir!!

04-18-2021, 06:25 AM - 1 Like	#119
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	I updated my K-1 II and also to me it seems more "snappy" with less hunting on screw driver lenses. Also the face recognition holds more the subjects!!!