New Firmware Released

Sandy Hancock · 04-15-2021, 05:28 AM - **1 Like**

Just updated my K-1 Mark II and KP. If this makes my old princesses perform better, any desire for the HD versions should wane appreciably.

Last edited by Sandy Hancock; 04-15-2021 at 05:49 AM.

**UncleVanya** · 04-15-2021, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Cerebum

I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time

I think it would be appropriate after the camera has been out longer perhaps. Which features did you think might work in the KP?

Sandy Hancock · 04-15-2021, 05:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Cerebum

I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time

Fuji body updates are tiny and incremental. The K-3 iii is a completely different camera, so I doubt the KP will be capable of supporting many, if any, of its new features.

reh321 · 04-15-2021, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Fuji body updates are tiny and incremental. The K-3 iii is a completely different camera, so I doubt the KP will be capable of supporting many, if any, of its new features.

Those who want K-3iii features can be like I am - I hope for the AF features in a K-70 followup while hoping it will still come in under $1001 eventually.
Features are not free - we should not expect Pentax to hand them out like candy, and I can think of few differences between the KP and K-3iii that would not require new hardware.

**aslyfox** · 04-15-2021, 07:41 AM - **1 Like**

I have successfully updated the K 1 II and K 3 II

**sergysergy** · 04-15-2021, 07:49 AM - **1 Like**

thanks for the update.

banangrg · 04-15-2021, 07:55 AM - **1 Like**

Hope my beauties will be even better with KP

The 31 was focusing the least accurrate from the trio.

**FozzFoster** · 04-15-2021, 08:07 AM

I've updated my K-70 and tested my 77mm before and after and noticed no difference, maybe the changes are there but I thought the 77 did pretty good for a screw drive anyway...

**aslyfox** · 04-15-2021, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by ProfessorBuzz

Thanks for letting us know. I've just downloaded the update. I guess I have to buy the lenses next !

Beware, it is hard to stop at just one

Originally posted by Serkevan

It might give them the itch to try those FA Limiteds.

Wait, is that a benefit? We both know that it's a very slippery slope of LBA

Quote:

the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why

the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why - Page 26 - PentaxForums.com

**c.a.m** · 04-15-2021, 08:15 AM - **1 Like**

I guess the question is why is the "optimized focus operation" implemented for only the FA Limited lenses, and how is it implemented through the firmware update?

What is unique about the Limiteds' AF operation and implementation?

Was there a glitch in the previous AF algorithm or its implementation in firmware?

- Craig

Ishpuini · 04-15-2021, 08:26 AM - **3 Likes**

I was a bit too fast doing the upgrade. Had 5 minutes between online meetings, so I decided to install the firmware upgrade on my K-3II. Did so without first checking AF on my FA limiteds pre upgrade... doh...

Anyway, just tested them now. I've been liveview manual focusing these for wide open use for as long as I remember, because they always seemed to slightly miss focus (also on my current K-3II). Tested both the FA31 and FA77 wide open, and both were spot on at all focus distances.

So either I never noticed this has been fixed in the past, or it is now, or my tests were not enough "in-the-field". For now, I'm assuming the firmware upgrade did what it said it would.

Just my 2 cents...

Wim

Fogel70 · 04-15-2021, 08:56 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Cerebum

I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time

Yeah, I'm also hoping for a larger OVF and improved AF-C with more AF point in next firmware update for KP.

**i_trax** · 04-15-2021, 09:41 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

I've updated my K-70 and tested my 77mm before and after and noticed no difference, maybe the changes are there but I thought the 77 did pretty good for a screw drive anyway...

placebo effect , use your imagination , of course the focus is much better now.
I did all my cameras and they are all now as fast as lightning!

**Belnan** · 04-15-2021, 10:03 AM - **1 Like**

I just updated my K-3... It does seem different in live view. This is with the DA* 200 2.8 sdm on a very small picture.

You Tube

Now I wish I did a before and after.

Somehow youtube restricted the video? maybe the title?

texandrews · 04-15-2021, 10:09 AM - **2 Likes**

There's this report over at DPR: Face Detect KP and K-1 with new firmware: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Very interesting if true....

04-15-2021, 09:41 AM - 2 Likes	#43
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	placebo effect Originally posted by FozzFoster I've updated my K-70 and tested my 77mm before and after and noticed no difference, maybe the changes are there but I thought the 77 did pretty good for a screw drive anyway... placebo effect , use your imagination , of course the focus is much better now. I did all my cameras and they are all now as fast as lightning!

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04-15-2021, 05:28 AM - 1 Like	#31
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Just updated my K-1 Mark II and KP. If this makes my old princesses perform better, any desire for the HD versions should wane appreciably. Last edited by Sandy Hancock; 04-15-2021 at 05:49 AM.

04-15-2021, 05:31 AM	#32
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by Cerebum I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time I think it would be appropriate after the camera has been out longer perhaps. Which features did you think might work in the KP?

04-15-2021, 05:51 AM - 1 Like	#33
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by Cerebum I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time Fuji body updates are tiny and incremental. The K-3 iii is a completely different camera, so I doubt the KP will be capable of supporting many, if any, of its new features.

04-15-2021, 06:31 AM	#34
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Fuji body updates are tiny and incremental. The K-3 iii is a completely different camera, so I doubt the KP will be capable of supporting many, if any, of its new features. Those who want K-3iii features can be like I am - I hope for the AF features in a K-70 followup while hoping it will still come in under $1001 eventually. Features are not free - we should not expect Pentax to hand them out like candy, and I can think of few differences between the KP and K-3iii that would not require new hardware.

04-15-2021, 07:41 AM - 1 Like	#35
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	I have successfully updated the K 1 II and K 3 II

04-15-2021, 07:49 AM - 1 Like	#36
sergysergy Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,175	thanks for the update.

04-15-2021, 07:55 AM - 1 Like	#37
banangrg New Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 10	Hope my beauties will be even better with KP The 31 was focusing the least accurrate from the trio.

04-15-2021, 08:07 AM	#38
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808 Original Poster	I've updated my K-70 and tested my 77mm before and after and noticed no difference, maybe the changes are there but I thought the 77 did pretty good for a screw drive anyway...

04-15-2021, 08:08 AM	#39
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by ProfessorBuzz Thanks for letting us know. I've just downloaded the update. I guess I have to buy the lenses next ! Beware, it is hard to stop at just one Originally posted by Serkevan It might give them the itch to try those FA Limiteds. Wait, is that a benefit? We both know that it's a very slippery slope of LBA Quote: the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why - Page 26 - PentaxForums.com

04-15-2021, 08:15 AM - 1 Like	#40
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,193	I guess the question is why is the "optimized focus operation" implemented for only the FA Limited lenses, and how is it implemented through the firmware update? What is unique about the Limiteds' AF operation and implementation? Was there a glitch in the previous AF algorithm or its implementation in firmware? - Craig

04-15-2021, 08:26 AM - 3 Likes	#41
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	I was a bit too fast doing the upgrade. Had 5 minutes between online meetings, so I decided to install the firmware upgrade on my K-3II. Did so without first checking AF on my FA limiteds pre upgrade... doh... Anyway, just tested them now. I've been liveview manual focusing these for wide open use for as long as I remember, because they always seemed to slightly miss focus (also on my current K-3II). Tested both the FA31 and FA77 wide open, and both were spot on at all focus distances. So either I never noticed this has been fixed in the past, or it is now, or my tests were not enough "in-the-field". For now, I'm assuming the firmware upgrade did what it said it would. Just my 2 cents... Wim

04-15-2021, 08:56 AM - 3 Likes	#42
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by Cerebum I was rather hoping for some new features from the K3iii in the KP firmware, much like Fuji did with the XT 3 & 4. Maybe next time Yeah, I'm also hoping for a larger OVF and improved AF-C with more AF point in next firmware update for KP.

04-15-2021, 10:09 AM - 2 Likes	#45
texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,397	There's this report over at DPR: Face Detect KP and K-1 with new firmware: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Very interesting if true....