Ricoh Developing OGPS2

**jumbleview** · 06-18-2021, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

To be honest, I think the O-GPS2 will simply be a forced technology upgrade, because components used in the O-GPS1 have become obsolete and a redesign imposes itself. I fear there are not enough sales of this kind of product to permit much development of new features.

I'm not counting on it, but I sincerely hope to be proven wrong.

Probably K3III is the reason. For geo-tagging (as people told) smart phone could provide info but for astro-tracing that most likely will not work. And O-GPS1 looks like from previous century nowadays.

JPT · 06-18-2021, 04:52 PM

Just think, if the K3 Mark III had the astrotracer built in, the camera itself would probably need to be pulled from the market now. Or more likely it would have been delayed even further. I think Ricoh dodged a bullet by not putting GPS in the body at this time.

slartibartfast01 · 06-18-2021, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by jumbleview

Probably K3III is the reason. For geo-tagging (as people told) smart phone could provide info but for astro-tracing that most likely will not work. And O-GPS1 looks like from previous century nowadays.

From the announcement
"Sales of the O-GPS1 will be terminated when additional parts can no longer be procured."

JPT · 06-19-2021, 12:23 AM

By the way, the situation in Japan is that Ricoh no longer have stock of the O-GPS1 themselves and only a few online retailers seems to have stock. So it looks like the production is ceased and it will be unavailable rather soon.

thibs · 06-19-2021, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

To be honest, I think the O-GPS2 will simply be a forced technology upgrade, because components used in the O-GPS1 have become obsolete and a redesign imposes itself. I fear there are not enough sales of this kind of product to permit much development of new features.

I'm not counting on it, but I sincerely hope to be proven wrong.

I agree. No parts left, that's it.

Zygonyx · 06-19-2021, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by JPT

Just think, if the K3 Mark III had the astrotracer built in, the camera itself would probably need to be pulled from the market now. Or more likely it would have been delayed even further. I think Ricoh dodged a bullet by not putting GPS in the body at this time.

If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production.

slartibartfast01 · 06-19-2021, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production.

Maybe they do. I wonder how much stock they have. They also may have diverted all their stock of the obsolete parts to the K1 ii away from the OGPS-1.

Kunzite · 06-19-2021, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production.

Would that be a problem, though? The K-1ii is already quite old, and most important, from the old generation of Pentax cameras.

thibs · 06-19-2021, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Would that be a problem, though? The K-1ii is already quite old, and most important, from the old generation of Pentax cameras.

Depends if it's supposed to be replaced in 3 months or 2 years (yeah, I pushed the interval lol)

JPT · 06-19-2021, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production.

Only if they didn't see it coming. If they know they have a certain number available, it makes sense to save them to make the $2,000 product, rather then use them up making $150 accessories. Running out of their only full frame model would be a lot more serious.

One interesting idea I saw in a Japanese comment thread was to design the GPS unit like one of the J-limited prism covers. The idea of making the unit wrap around the prism would be a very neat solution, although not every model's prism is the same size and shape, so it would probably not be very feasible. This was just a comment from a user so no indication that Ricoh is planning this. I like the idea though.

Gamblat · 06-19-2021, 10:29 PM

Interesting

Ishpuini · 06-20-2021, 02:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by thibs

Depends if it's supposed to be replaced in 3 months or 2 years (yeah, I pushed the interval lol)

Good thinking!

RobG · 06-20-2021, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Even better might be a port for external power through a power bank. Chances are that is what the camera will be running off of.

Except that if the camera was already using the external power you wouldn't need an extra cable for the GPS?

stevebrot · 06-20-2021, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by RobG

Except that if the camera was already using the external power you wouldn't need an extra cable for the GPS?

Assuming one can power a device from the hot shoe. The shoe, after all, is only "hot' in the passive sense.

Steve

**mlt** · 06-20-2021, 09:19 AM

I don’t recall anyone ever providing power to an external device via the hot/flash shoe. Triple A batteries are light enough to carry a spare and easy to find for purchase if needed.

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06-18-2021, 12:51 PM	#91
jumbleview Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 1,070	Originally posted by Ishpuini To be honest, I think the O-GPS2 will simply be a forced technology upgrade, because components used in the O-GPS1 have become obsolete and a redesign imposes itself. I fear there are not enough sales of this kind of product to permit much development of new features. I'm not counting on it, but I sincerely hope to be proven wrong. Probably K3III is the reason. For geo-tagging (as people told) smart phone could provide info but for astro-tracing that most likely will not work. And O-GPS1 looks like from previous century nowadays.

06-18-2021, 04:52 PM	#92
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Just think, if the K3 Mark III had the astrotracer built in, the camera itself would probably need to be pulled from the market now. Or more likely it would have been delayed even further. I think Ricoh dodged a bullet by not putting GPS in the body at this time.

06-18-2021, 11:51 PM	#93
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by jumbleview Probably K3III is the reason. For geo-tagging (as people told) smart phone could provide info but for astro-tracing that most likely will not work. And O-GPS1 looks like from previous century nowadays. From the announcement "Sales of the O-GPS1 will be terminated when additional parts can no longer be procured."

06-19-2021, 12:23 AM	#94
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	By the way, the situation in Japan is that Ricoh no longer have stock of the O-GPS1 themselves and only a few online retailers seems to have stock. So it looks like the production is ceased and it will be unavailable rather soon.

06-19-2021, 02:47 AM	#95
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Ishpuini To be honest, I think the O-GPS2 will simply be a forced technology upgrade, because components used in the O-GPS1 have become obsolete and a redesign imposes itself. I fear there are not enough sales of this kind of product to permit much development of new features. I'm not counting on it, but I sincerely hope to be proven wrong. I agree. No parts left, that's it.

06-19-2021, 11:44 AM	#96
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by JPT Just think, if the K3 Mark III had the astrotracer built in, the camera itself would probably need to be pulled from the market now. Or more likely it would have been delayed even further. I think Ricoh dodged a bullet by not putting GPS in the body at this time. If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production.

06-19-2021, 12:53 PM	#97
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by Zygonyx If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production. Maybe they do. I wonder how much stock they have. They also may have diverted all their stock of the obsolete parts to the K1 ii away from the OGPS-1.

06-19-2021, 01:18 PM	#98
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Zygonyx If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production. Would that be a problem, though? The K-1ii is already quite old, and most important, from the old generation of Pentax cameras.

06-19-2021, 03:26 PM	#99
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Kunzite Would that be a problem, though? The K-1ii is already quite old, and most important, from the old generation of Pentax cameras. Depends if it's supposed to be replaced in 3 months or 2 years (yeah, I pushed the interval lol)

06-19-2021, 06:40 PM	#100
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Originally posted by Zygonyx If your assumption is correct, they should already have the same problem with K-1II production. Only if they didn't see it coming. If they know they have a certain number available, it makes sense to save them to make the $2,000 product, rather then use them up making $150 accessories. Running out of their only full frame model would be a lot more serious. One interesting idea I saw in a Japanese comment thread was to design the GPS unit like one of the J-limited prism covers. The idea of making the unit wrap around the prism would be a very neat solution, although not every model's prism is the same size and shape, so it would probably not be very feasible. This was just a comment from a user so no indication that Ricoh is planning this. I like the idea though.

06-19-2021, 10:29 PM	#101
Gamblat Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 87	Interesting

06-20-2021, 02:56 AM - 1 Like	#102
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by thibs Depends if it's supposed to be replaced in 3 months or 2 years (yeah, I pushed the interval lol) Good thinking!

06-20-2021, 04:42 AM	#103
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,902	Originally posted by stevebrot Even better might be a port for external power through a power bank. Chances are that is what the camera will be running off of. Except that if the camera was already using the external power you wouldn't need an extra cable for the GPS?

06-20-2021, 08:03 AM	#104
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by RobG Except that if the camera was already using the external power you wouldn't need an extra cable for the GPS? Assuming one can power a device from the hot shoe. The shoe, after all, is only "hot' in the passive sense. Steve

06-20-2021, 09:19 AM	#105
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	I don’t recall anyone ever providing power to an external device via the hot/flash shoe. Triple A batteries are light enough to carry a spare and easy to find for purchase if needed.