Introducing the HD Pentax-DA★ 16-50mm f/2.8 ED PLM AW

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 03:07 PM - **7 Likes**

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HD PENTAX-DA★ 16-50mm F2.8 ED PLM AW - Ricoh

Ricoh announces HD Pentax-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 lens, set to go on sale in August for $1,400 | Digital Photography Review

Minimum focusing distance: 0.3m
Maximum magnification: 0.24x
Filter diameter: 77mm
Dimensions: ø84mm x 117mm
Weight: 712g
Price: $1,399.95 / £1,499.99 / €1,499

Last edited by Mistral75; 07-14-2021 at 03:18 PM.

Wheatfield · 07-14-2021, 03:36 PM - **6 Likes**

Let the whinging begin.

Kunzite · 07-14-2021, 03:40 PM - **5 Likes**

Great news! Now they can concentrate on launching the D FA 21 Limited!

steephill · 07-14-2021, 03:44 PM - **1 Like**

Well we can start the whinging with the pricing. The UK price is much higher than the US price even given our 20% VAT. I expect that it will be offered with substantial discounts within 6 months.

**robbiec** · 07-14-2021, 03:45 PM - **1 Like**

Whingers be whingers. Looks to be the job for the K-3iii. Not too big, not too heavy. Pentax have also published a nice set of MTF figures plus perhaps more importantly for some, expected timing speeds for focusing.

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 03:46 PM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by steephill

Well we can start the whinging with the pricing. The UK price is much higher than the US price even given our 20% VAT. I expect that it will be offered with substantial discounts within 6 months.

It's the pound that will be offered with substantial discount within six months...

**robbiec** · 07-14-2021, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

It's the pound that will be offered with substantial discount within six months...

Bringing it home!

**ehrwien** · 07-14-2021, 03:48 PM

It's quite a bit more expensive than I had hoped it would be. It's only going to enter the "I'd consider a purchase" area with a discount upwards of 40%...

**FozzFoster** · 07-14-2021, 03:54 PM - **3 Likes**

wallet still kickin me for buying the K-3 III - but this lens is on my must have list. Be it a year or two from now... I will own this lens.

**jpzk** · 07-14-2021, 03:55 PM - **3 Likes**

Great news for those who need it and are willing to pay for the release price.

I still have the "old" DA* 16-50 (screw drive converted) and it is doing a good job on the "old" K3 (and on the very old K5).
At $1,399.95 (USD I assume), that would be CDN $1751.00 .... Ouch!

jslifoaw · 07-14-2021, 04:26 PM

It's a bit on the expensive side but not excessively so. The FF Canon/Nikon 24-70 f2.8 lenses are around C$2200-2500, while the F4 versions are around C$1200-$1300. While the Pentax 24-70 is C$1600 and performs well, I would put its overall refinement taking into account mechanics slightly below star lenses.

Per jpzk, I suspect this new lens will land at C$1700-$1800. Both the DFA85 and K-3 III were priced at $2000 USD and initially sold for $2500 CAD (x1.25).

**jpzk** · 07-14-2021, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by jslifoaw

It's a bit on the expensive side but not excessively so. The FF Canon/Nikon 24-70 f2.8 lenses are around C$2200-2500, while the F4 versions are around C$1200-$1300. While the Pentax 24-70 is C$1600 and performs well, I would put its overall refinement taking into account mechanics slightly below star lenses.

Per jpzk, I suspect this new lens will land at C$1700-$1800. Both the DFA85 and K-3 III were priced at $2000 USD and initially sold for $2500 CAD (x1.25).

That's what my calculation came to: $1751 (CDN) and hopefully it will go down a bit ... or maybe I should wait for a "deal" when it shows up on the Marketplace here?

Nonetheless, specs seem impressive.

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 04:36 PM - **2 Likes**

Optical diagram:

Geometric MTF (MTF calculated without referencing the effects of light diffraction phenomenon)

16mm f/2.8

16mm f/4

16mm f/8

50mm f/2.8

50mm f/4

50mm f/8

Wave optical MTF (MTF calculated referencing the effects of light diffraction phenomenon)

16mm f/2.8

50mm f/2.8

**clackers** · 07-14-2021, 04:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by steephill

Well we can start the whinging with the pricing. The UK price is much higher than the US price even given our 20% VAT. I expect that it will be offered with substantial discounts within 6 months.

1. The US price is without any applicable sales taxes, right?

2. The US warranty is just twelve months, what will it be for you in the UK, Steephill?

**clackers** · 07-14-2021, 04:50 PM - **5 Likes**

Ooh, what a mighty combination the K-3 III, the DA*11-18, the DA*16-50, and say, the DFA*50, will be.

I've just drooled all over my business shirt, apologies for that!

07-14-2021, 03:07 PM - 7 Likes	#1
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Introducing the HD Pentax-DA★ 16-50mm f/2.8 ED PLM AW Ricoh Imaging - Publications \| Facebook HD PENTAX-DA★ 16-50mm F2.8 ED PLM AW - Ricoh Ricoh announces HD Pentax-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 lens, set to go on sale in August for $1,400 \| Digital Photography Review Minimum focusing distance: 0.3m Maximum magnification: 0.24x Filter diameter: 77mm Dimensions: ø84mm x 117mm Weight: 712g Price: $1,399.95 / £1,499.99 / €1,499 Last edited by Mistral75; 07-14-2021 at 03:18 PM.

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robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Whingers be whingers. Looks to be the job for the K-3iii. Not too big, not too heavy. Pentax have also published a nice set of MTF figures plus perhaps more importantly for some, expected timing speeds for focusing.

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by steephill Well we can start the whinging with the pricing. The UK price is much higher than the US price even given our 20% VAT. I expect that it will be offered with substantial discounts within 6 months. It's the pound that will be offered with substantial discount within six months...

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robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by Mistral75 It's the pound that will be offered with substantial discount within six months... Bringing it home!

07-14-2021, 03:48 PM	#8
ehrwien Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,782	It's quite a bit more expensive than I had hoped it would be. It's only going to enter the "I'd consider a purchase" area with a discount upwards of 40%...

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FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	wallet still kickin me for buying the K-3 III - but this lens is on my must have list. Be it a year or two from now... I will own this lens.

07-14-2021, 03:55 PM - 3 Likes	#10
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Great news for those who need it and are willing to pay for the release price. I still have the "old" DA* 16-50 (screw drive converted) and it is doing a good job on the "old" K3 (and on the very old K5). At $1,399.95 (USD I assume), that would be CDN $1751.00 .... Ouch!

07-14-2021, 04:26 PM	#11
jslifoaw Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto/Victoria Posts: 460	It's a bit on the expensive side but not excessively so. The FF Canon/Nikon 24-70 f2.8 lenses are around C$2200-2500, while the F4 versions are around C$1200-$1300. While the Pentax 24-70 is C$1600 and performs well, I would put its overall refinement taking into account mechanics slightly below star lenses. Per jpzk, I suspect this new lens will land at C$1700-$1800. Both the DFA85 and K-3 III were priced at $2000 USD and initially sold for $2500 CAD (x1.25).

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jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by jslifoaw It's a bit on the expensive side but not excessively so. The FF Canon/Nikon 24-70 f2.8 lenses are around C$2200-2500, while the F4 versions are around C$1200-$1300. While the Pentax 24-70 is C$1600 and performs well, I would put its overall refinement taking into account mechanics slightly below star lenses. Per jpzk, I suspect this new lens will land at C$1700-$1800. Both the DFA85 and K-3 III were priced at $2000 USD and initially sold for $2500 CAD (x1.25). That's what my calculation came to: $1751 (CDN) and hopefully it will go down a bit ... or maybe I should wait for a "deal" when it shows up on the Marketplace here? Nonetheless, specs seem impressive.

07-14-2021, 04:36 PM - 2 Likes	#13
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Optical diagram: Geometric MTF (MTF calculated without referencing the effects of light diffraction phenomenon) 16mm f/2.8 16mm f/4 16mm f/8 50mm f/2.8 50mm f/4 50mm f/8 Wave optical MTF (MTF calculated referencing the effects of light diffraction phenomenon) 16mm f/2.8 50mm f/2.8

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clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by steephill Well we can start the whinging with the pricing. The UK price is much higher than the US price even given our 20% VAT. I expect that it will be offered with substantial discounts within 6 months. 1. The US price is without any applicable sales taxes, right? 2. The US warranty is just twelve months, what will it be for you in the UK, Steephill?

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