Introducing the HD Pentax-DA★ 16-50mm f/2.8 ED PLM AW

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 04:54 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

Ooh, what a mighty combination the K-3 III, the DA*11-18, the DA*16-50, and say, the DFA*50, will be.

(...)

...not to mention the HD Pentax-DA★ 50-135mm f/2.8 ED PLM AW.

noelpolar · 07-14-2021, 04:55 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

Ooh, what a mighty combination the K-3 III, the DA*11-18, the DA*16-50, and say, the DFA*50, will be.

I've just drooled all over my business shirt, apologies for that!

You should read this forum with your mask on.... and .... include the 150-450.... no K3III should live without it.

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 05:03 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

1. The US price is without any applicable sales taxes, right?

2. The US warranty is just twelve months, what will it be for you in the UK, Steephill?

I don't think those are the reasons for the UK price. They do explain the slight difference between the US price ($1,400) and the Eurozone price (€1,500) though.

$1,400 = €1,183 excl. VAT = €1,420 incl VAT < €1,500. The Eurozone price is 5-6% higher than the US price.

However, VAT and warranties are (still) equivalent in the UK and the Eurozone, yet £1,500 = €1,757 >> €1,500.

I see two other reasons for the UK price to be 17% higher than the Eurozone price:

The UK having become a small market, not a portion of a large market (the European market) anymore.
Widespread distrust of the UK economy and its post-Brexit prospects.

mkymic · 07-14-2021, 05:05 PM

Wonder how it will work on a K1 ?

Mistral75 · 07-14-2021, 05:05 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mkymic

Wonder how it will work on a K1 ?

How? In crop mode.

**DWS1** · 07-14-2021, 05:22 PM

Nice to see, but I'm still working on my saving plan so I get the K3iii by 2023.

**clackers** · 07-14-2021, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

[*]The UK having become a small market, not a portion of a large market (the European market) anymore.[*]Widespread distrust of the UK economy and its post-Brexit prospects.[/LIST]

Sadly, I think you're right.

Looks like the UK is going to have to enter a very favourable trade food agreement with Australia because they've lost the EU access.

It will hurt the UK beef industry because in Australia we have less ethical requirements of cattle raising, on top of the sheer scale.

Last edited by clackers; 07-14-2021 at 06:45 PM.

disconnekt · 07-14-2021, 06:27 PM - **1 Like**

Man, Ricoh is really coming out swinging huh? 😁

JPT · 07-14-2021, 06:29 PM - **5 Likes**

The Japanese special site is now up - in English too.

Product Overview | HD PENTAX-DA?16-50mmF2.8ED PLM AW | PENTAX STAR LENS | RICOH IMAGING

Here is the page with the developer interviews.

Development Story | HD PENTAX-DA?16-50mmF2.8ED PLM AW | PENTAX STAR LENS | RICOH IMAGING

It's interesting that there are two names there that are not talked about much, Takahiro Nakayama (Optical Design) and Makoto Niwa (mechanical design. They claim big speed improvements.

---------- Post added 07-15-21 at 10:40 AM ----------

And for anyone complaining about the price, spare a thought for us in Japan.

The official price is 236,500 yen including the 10% sales tax, which works out to USD 2,152. It will be cheaper in stores, but it is still very expensive even compared to other recent lenses.

I got a DA20-40 recently. It won't work on my K-5 IIs anyway. I'll (just have to) be happy.

**clickclick** · 07-14-2021, 07:00 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

I've just drooled all over my business shirt, apologies for that!

How could you not? I'm right with you. A real motivator to get up and slog through the daily grind!

**mlt** · 07-14-2021, 08:16 PM - **2 Likes**

I’m not letting my K3iii near this thread, it ate up the budget for any new lenses for a while and its still whispering hints about the DA* 11~18.

**mlt** · 07-14-2021, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by noelpolar

.... include the 150-450.... no K3III should live without it.

So true

biz-engineer · 07-14-2021, 11:21 PM - **2 Likes**

The MTF charts look good, (almost) prime like charts when stopped down a bit. For apsc, that's a good one.

---------- Post added 15-07-21 at 08:31 ----------

Originally posted by clackers

Looks like the UK is going to have to enter a very favourable trade food agreement with Australia because they've lost the EU access.

Brexit or not, the unofficial route is still the monthly happy family trip from Dover to Auchan Calais by minivan, and back with truck-load of red wines for private consumption only as they say to the customs

Ishpuini · 07-14-2021, 11:38 PM

Great to see the 77mm filter thread confirmed. Not having to invest in new filters or having to use them on an adapter that risks vignetting at 16-18mm or so, is a great prospect. I was fearing a slightly larger size. Of course this means I'll probably get this one asap. Now... what to do with my beaten up old DA*16-50...

**clackers** · 07-14-2021, 11:38 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Brexit or not, the unofficial route is still the monthly happy family trip from Dover to Auchan Calais by minivan, and back with truck-load of red wines for private consumption only as they say to the customs

Yes, luckily for the beef farmers, it's harder to smuggle a thousand head of cattle in a Ford Transit van!

07-14-2021, 05:03 PM - 1 Like	#18
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers 1. The US price is without any applicable sales taxes, right? 2. The US warranty is just twelve months, what will it be for you in the UK, Steephill? I don't think those are the reasons for the UK price. They do explain the slight difference between the US price ($1,400) and the Eurozone price (€1,500) though. $1,400 = €1,183 excl. VAT = €1,420 incl VAT < €1,500. The Eurozone price is 5-6% higher than the US price. However, VAT and warranties are (still) equivalent in the UK and the Eurozone, yet £1,500 = €1,757 >> €1,500. I see two other reasons for the UK price to be 17% higher than the Eurozone price: The UK having become a small market, not a portion of a large market (the European market) anymore. Widespread distrust of the UK economy and its post-Brexit prospects.

07-14-2021, 11:21 PM - 2 Likes	#28
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	The MTF charts look good, (almost) prime like charts when stopped down a bit. For apsc, that's a good one. ---------- Post added 15-07-21 at 08:31 ---------- Originally posted by clackers Looks like the UK is going to have to enter a very favourable trade food agreement with Australia because they've lost the EU access. Brexit or not, the unofficial route is still the monthly happy family trip from Dover to Auchan Calais by minivan, and back with truck-load of red wines for private consumption only as they say to the customs Last edited by biz-engineer; 07-14-2021 at 11:34 PM.

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers Ooh, what a mighty combination the K-3 III, the DA11-18, the DA16-50, and say, the DFA*50, will be. (...) ...not to mention the HD Pentax-DA★ 50-135mm f/2.8 ED PLM AW.

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noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by clackers Ooh, what a mighty combination the K-3 III, the DA11-18, the DA16-50, and say, the DFA*50, will be. I've just drooled all over my business shirt, apologies for that! You should read this forum with your mask on.... and .... include the 150-450.... no K3III should live without it.

07-14-2021, 05:05 PM	#19
mkymic Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB. Posts: 70	Wonder how it will work on a K1 ?

07-14-2021, 05:05 PM - 1 Like	#20
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by mkymic Wonder how it will work on a K1 ? How? In crop mode.

07-14-2021, 05:22 PM	#21
DWS1 Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 1,169	Nice to see, but I'm still working on my saving plan so I get the K3iii by 2023.

07-14-2021, 05:42 PM	#22
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Mistral75 []The UK having become a small market, not a portion of a large market (the European market) anymore.[]Widespread distrust of the UK economy and its post-Brexit prospects.[/LIST] Sadly, I think you're right. Looks like the UK is going to have to enter a very favourable trade food agreement with Australia because they've lost the EU access. It will hurt the UK beef industry because in Australia we have less ethical requirements of cattle raising, on top of the sheer scale. Last edited by clackers; 07-14-2021 at 06:45 PM.

07-14-2021, 06:27 PM - 1 Like	#23
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07-14-2021, 06:29 PM - 5 Likes	#24
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	The Japanese special site is now up - in English too. Product Overview \| HD PENTAX-DA?16-50mmF2.8ED PLM AW \| PENTAX STAR LENS \| RICOH IMAGING Here is the page with the developer interviews. Development Story \| HD PENTAX-DA?16-50mmF2.8ED PLM AW \| PENTAX STAR LENS \| RICOH IMAGING It's interesting that there are two names there that are not talked about much, Takahiro Nakayama (Optical Design) and Makoto Niwa (mechanical design. They claim big speed improvements. ---------- Post added 07-15-21 at 10:40 AM ---------- And for anyone complaining about the price, spare a thought for us in Japan. The official price is 236,500 yen including the 10% sales tax, which works out to USD 2,152. It will be cheaper in stores, but it is still very expensive even compared to other recent lenses. I got a DA20-40 recently. It won't work on my K-5 IIs anyway. I'll (just have to) be happy.

07-14-2021, 07:00 PM - 1 Like	#25
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by clackers I've just drooled all over my business shirt, apologies for that! How could you not? I'm right with you. A real motivator to get up and slog through the daily grind!

07-14-2021, 08:16 PM - 2 Likes	#26
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	I’m not letting my K3iii near this thread, it ate up the budget for any new lenses for a while and its still whispering hints about the DA* 11~18.

07-14-2021, 08:18 PM	#27
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by noelpolar .... include the 150-450.... no K3III should live without it. So true

07-14-2021, 11:38 PM	#29
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Great to see the 77mm filter thread confirmed. Not having to invest in new filters or having to use them on an adapter that risks vignetting at 16-18mm or so, is a great prospect. I was fearing a slightly larger size. Of course this means I'll probably get this one asap. Now... what to do with my beaten up old DA*16-50...

07-14-2021, 11:38 PM - 3 Likes	#30
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by biz-engineer Brexit or not, the unofficial route is still the monthly happy family trip from Dover to Auchan Calais by minivan, and back with truck-load of red wines for private consumption only as they say to the customs Yes, luckily for the beef farmers, it's harder to smuggle a thousand head of cattle in a Ford Transit van!