DFA21/2.4 Limited available in amazon jp

normhead · 10-14-2021, 06:38 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Rondec

I think that contrast and micro contrast are every bit as important as sharpness. Lenses with low contrast, like the FA 50 look softer, even if they actually resolve pretty decently. You can bump up contrast in post to a certain extent, but it isn't the same.

An image with proper exposure that needs little work will look better than a heavily manipulated image. It's a mistake to think PP can rescue poor exposures and turn them into spectacular images. It might turn them into acceptable images.The properly exposed already compelling image will always be better in the end.

Andrea K · 10-14-2021, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 (June 2018): €1,199.
DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 (January 2019): €1,399.
D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 (May 2020): €1,999.
DA★ 16-50mm f/2.8 (July 2021): €1,499.
D FA 21mm f/2.4 Limited (October 2021): €1,499.

Please add the revamped HD Limiteds

Mistral75 · 10-14-2021, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Andrea K

Please add the revamped HD Limiteds

HD Pentax-FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited: €1,099
HD Pentax-FA 43mm f/1.9 Limited: €649
HD Pentax-FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited: €799.

lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Oh no, it is correctly exposed for the sky, just that there was quite a bit of contrast in the scene.

My Irix reports what would be the correct exposure when it's misbehaving. It's just that the mechanics don't obey what the electronics are telling them to do!

**Rondec** · 10-14-2021, 08:19 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

An image with proper exposure that needs little work will look better than a heavily manipulated image. It's a mistake to think PP can rescue poor exposures and turn them into spectacular images. It might turn them into acceptable images.The properly exposed already compelling image will always be better in the end.

The DA 15 limited actually isn't particularly sharp on the borders, but it has very nice contrast and colors and these make its images pop even though if you scan the corners you find that things are a bit blurry.

**Serkevan** · 10-14-2021, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

My Irix reports what would be the correct exposure when it's misbehaving. It's just that the mechanics don't obey what the electronics are telling them to do!

Then it's your lens, because my copy got the exposure it should have. If it were at f/22 it would have been horribly underexposed everywhere...
I just checked several bursts at several apertures and the shutter speeds are all as they should be.

lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Then it's your lens, because my copy got the exposure it should have. If it were at f/22 it would have been horribly underexposed everywhere...
I just checked several bursts at several apertures and the shutter speeds are all as they should be.

Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot.

**Serkevan** · 10-14-2021, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot.

Yours is the first one I hear about having problems of that kind, and I wouldn't have bought mine if the reviews everywhere hadn't indicated that it's... well, not a crap shoot

MMVIII · 10-14-2021, 09:57 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot.

Interesting extrapolation from sample size: 1.

lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Yours is the first one I hear about having problems of that kind, and I wouldn't have bought mine if the reviews everywhere hadn't indicated that it's... well, not a crap shoot

Everywhere? Nope! There are several complaining where the pins do not connect properly, and one unfortunate user who took one on a big trip, only to have it fail completely. The lens is a lot of dead weight to carry around!

lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by MMVIII

Interesting extrapolation from sample size: 1.

Interesting undercount of the sample size. My assessment factors in what has been reported in various online reviews.

**Serkevan** · 10-14-2021, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Everywhere? Nope! There are several complaining where the pins do not connect properly, and one unfortunate user who took one on a big trip, only to have it fail completely. The lens is a lot of dead weight to carry around!

Well, I haven't found any of those. Can you please point to them?
There are at least two or three reviews of a DFA 150-450 literally coming apart. Clearly every lens ever made by Pentax is a crapshoot that is a wave function away from disintegrating?

borisII · 10-14-2021, 10:27 AM - **1 Like**

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lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Well, I haven't found any of those. Can you please point to them?

One here, for example:

https://photographylife.com/reviews/irix-11mm-f4/6

**Serkevan** · 10-14-2021, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

One here, for example:

https://photographylife.com/reviews/irix-11mm-f4/6

One comment - not a review, in truth; and without followup regarding repairs, customer support etc. To top it off, what's described is an issue that could happen with any lens since it seems to come from a contact issue?

I get that you had a bad experience with your copy, and it's unfortunate, but... you're not really making a convincing case. I'll leave it here so as to not derail the thread further.

10-14-2021, 06:39 AM	#167
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	Originally posted by Mistral75 D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 (June 2018): €1,199. DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 (January 2019): €1,399. D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 (May 2020): €1,999. DA★ 16-50mm f/2.8 (July 2021): €1,499. D FA 21mm f/2.4 Limited (October 2021): €1,499. Please add the revamped HD Limiteds

10-14-2021, 07:13 AM	#168
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by Andrea K Please add the revamped HD Limiteds HD Pentax-FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited: €1,099 HD Pentax-FA 43mm f/1.9 Limited: €649 HD Pentax-FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited: €799.

10-14-2021, 08:28 AM	#171
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by lytrytyr My Irix reports what would be the correct exposure when it's misbehaving. It's just that the mechanics don't obey what the electronics are telling them to do! Then it's your lens, because my copy got the exposure it should have. If it were at f/22 it would have been horribly underexposed everywhere... I just checked several bursts at several apertures and the shutter speeds are all as they should be. Last edited by Serkevan; 10-14-2021 at 08:34 AM.

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10-14-2021, 06:38 AM - 2 Likes	#166
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,448	Originally posted by Rondec I think that contrast and micro contrast are every bit as important as sharpness. Lenses with low contrast, like the FA 50 look softer, even if they actually resolve pretty decently. You can bump up contrast in post to a certain extent, but it isn't the same. An image with proper exposure that needs little work will look better than a heavily manipulated image. It's a mistake to think PP can rescue poor exposures and turn them into spectacular images. It might turn them into acceptable images.The properly exposed already compelling image will always be better in the end.

10-14-2021, 07:53 AM	#169
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Serkevan Oh no, it is correctly exposed for the sky, just that there was quite a bit of contrast in the scene. My Irix reports what would be the correct exposure when it's misbehaving. It's just that the mechanics don't obey what the electronics are telling them to do!

10-14-2021, 08:19 AM - 1 Like	#170
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by normhead An image with proper exposure that needs little work will look better than a heavily manipulated image. It's a mistake to think PP can rescue poor exposures and turn them into spectacular images. It might turn them into acceptable images.The properly exposed already compelling image will always be better in the end. The DA 15 limited actually isn't particularly sharp on the borders, but it has very nice contrast and colors and these make its images pop even though if you scan the corners you find that things are a bit blurry.

10-14-2021, 09:18 AM	#172
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Serkevan Then it's your lens, because my copy got the exposure it should have. If it were at f/22 it would have been horribly underexposed everywhere... I just checked several bursts at several apertures and the shutter speeds are all as they should be. Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot.

10-14-2021, 09:55 AM	#173
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by lytrytyr Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot. Yours is the first one I hear about having problems of that kind, and I wouldn't have bought mine if the reviews everywhere hadn't indicated that it's... well, not a crap shoot

10-14-2021, 09:57 AM - 2 Likes	#174
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by lytrytyr Yup, these Irix lenses are a crap shoot. Interesting extrapolation from sample size: 1.

10-14-2021, 10:09 AM	#175
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Serkevan Yours is the first one I hear about having problems of that kind, and I wouldn't have bought mine if the reviews everywhere hadn't indicated that it's... well, not a crap shoot Everywhere? Nope! There are several complaining where the pins do not connect properly, and one unfortunate user who took one on a big trip, only to have it fail completely. The lens is a lot of dead weight to carry around!

10-14-2021, 10:12 AM	#176
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by MMVIII Interesting extrapolation from sample size: 1. Interesting undercount of the sample size. My assessment factors in what has been reported in various online reviews.

10-14-2021, 10:13 AM	#177
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by lytrytyr Everywhere? Nope! There are several complaining where the pins do not connect properly, and one unfortunate user who took one on a big trip, only to have it fail completely. The lens is a lot of dead weight to carry around! Well, I haven't found any of those. Can you please point to them? There are at least two or three reviews of a DFA 150-450 literally coming apart. Clearly every lens ever made by Pentax is a crapshoot that is a wave function away from disintegrating?

10-14-2021, 10:27 AM - 1 Like	#178
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10-14-2021, 10:30 AM	#179
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Serkevan Well, I haven't found any of those. Can you please point to them? One here, for example: https://photographylife.com/reviews/irix-11mm-f4/6

10-14-2021, 11:08 AM	#180
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by lytrytyr One here, for example: https://photographylife.com/reviews/irix-11mm-f4/6 One comment - not a review, in truth; and without followup regarding repairs, customer support etc. To top it off, what's described is an issue that could happen with any lens since it seems to come from a contact issue? I get that you had a bad experience with your copy, and it's unfortunate, but... you're not really making a convincing case. I'll leave it here so as to not derail the thread further.