DFA 21 f/2.4 Limited

**robbiec** · 10-14-2021, 05:18 AM - **1 Like**

Ticks every box for me. Looks like I can retire my Zeiss 25

tncasual · 10-14-2021, 05:30 AM

Ouch.

I guess I will wait for people to unload their old FA 20mm to fund this purchase.

I would love to have this, but that price is out of reach.

VictorDA · 10-14-2021, 05:53 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ehrwien

What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series?

I'm rooting for a 58mm f/1.7, there is a gap between the DFA*50 and the 77, or (in Limiteds) between 43 and 77

Announcement expected in 2027

---------- Post added 14-10-21 at 14:55 ----------

Originally posted by tncasual

Ouch.

I guess I will wait for people to unload their old FA 20mm to fund this purchase.

I would love to have this, but that price is out of reach.

Same here, I can't justify it, neither would I be able to actually use it with peace of mind

angerdan · 10-14-2021, 06:16 AM - **1 Like**

All data is published:
HD Pentax-D FA 21mm F2.4 ED Limited DC WR Reviews - D FA Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

And the Special Site is online:
D FA Limited | PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site | RICOH IMAGING

As well as the product page:
HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR / Limited / Wide-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Products | RICOH IMAGING
HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR

Here's the press release:
HD PENTAX-D FA 21mm F2.4ED Limited DC WR :An ultra-wide-angle single-focus lens for use with PENTAX K-mount full-frame digital SLR cameras | RICOH IMAGING

And the specsheet-dfa21mm_eng.pdf:
ricoh-imaging.eu/de_de/mwdownloads/download/link/id/1007/

Last edited by angerdan; 10-14-2021 at 10:14 AM.

house · 10-14-2021, 06:21 AM - **1 Like**

No published MTF or am I missing something? Pentax has published mtf for all recent lenses. Perhaps the Limiteds are off limits to "numbers" even in terms of showing them.

Price is about the same as the Zeiss Milvus 21 right? That number is hard to forget

Pentax is moving with the big girls now.

**ThorSanchez** · 10-14-2021, 07:08 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Madaboutpix

An exciting addition to the Pentax FF lens line-up and a reason to celebrate, both the fact of a new FF lens and what it will likely offer.

But it also confirms me in sticking with my APS-C system. Seriously, for that kind of money - which may be well justified in the FF context, I don't doubt that for a second - I would get the mother of all APS-C wideangle zooms, the DA*11-18, or two to three of the existing DA Limiteds brandnew, to say nothing of the bulk and weight of an equivalent FL kit. (Not that I would have that kind of photo budget without serious and prolonged saving anyway.)

Mind you, before I'm ripped apart, not begrudging anybody anything, just thinking aloud. May the new FA Limited find many friends and help creating enough revenue to help Ricoh with renovating and further enhancing their APS-C line-up too. There are quite a few old-SDM corpses to replace, which is why the new DA*16-50 is so welcome, and the DA Limited primes could use a WR do-up too.

(I know that I'm complaining from a position of comfort, with all that we already have, but we're entitled to our various dreams, aren't we?)

I'm also in the "glad it exists for the FF folks, but as an APS-C shooter it doesn't make any sense" camp. I have both the DA 21 f/3.2 LTD and the 20-40 LTD, so this would bring only marginal gains for a whopping big pricetag. You could probably buy a full set of excellent condition/used DA limiteds (15/21/35/40/70) for the new cost of this lens.

At one point I said my most wanted lens was the DA21 LTD with WR. But I came to the conclusion that the APS-C solution to that was the 20-40 LTD, and it still is.

Wheatfield · 10-14-2021, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

I'm also in the "glad it exists for the FF folks, but as an APS-C shooter it doesn't make any sense" camp. I have both the DA 21 f/3.2 LTD and the 20-40 LTD, so this would bring only marginal gains for a whopping big pricetag. You could probably buy a full set of excellent condition/used DA limiteds (15/21/35/40/70) for the new cost of this lens.

At one point I said my most wanted lens was the DA21 LTD with WR. But I came to the conclusion that the APS-C solution to that was the 20-40 LTD, and it still is.

The 20-40 is also the better lens.

Jeff · 10-14-2021, 07:24 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by JPT

There's a "Special Site" page about this now.
D FA Limited | PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site | RICOH IMAGING

Also two pages of photographer reports with some samples.
Kazuyuki Okajima HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR Impression | PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site | RICOH IMAGING
Keita Sasaki HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR Impression | PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site | RICOH IMAGING

And a message from the developers about the lens concept.
Development Story | PENTAX Limited Lens Special site | PENTAX Limited Lens | RICOH IMAGING

Thanks for the links!

Boy, I just love Ricoh's Special Sites - they radiate all that Pentax is about now; I love reading all the details, looking at the images - I'm sold! I have the other three Limiteds, so how could I not add this one?

lytrytyr · 10-14-2021, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by house

Pentax is moving with the big girls now.

Let's just hope that they don't make themselves as irrelevant as the Contax became at the end.

**c.a.m** · 10-14-2021, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Let's just hope that they don't make themselves as irrelevant as the Contax became at the end.

I would never have thought of that notion. Not sure how it is related to the introduction of this new fantastic lens. No need for hope.

- Craig

Mistral75 · 10-14-2021, 08:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ehrwien

What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series? (...)

HD Pentax-D FA 105mm f/2.5 Limited DC WR.

**Pål Jensen** · 10-14-2021, 08:33 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

HD Pentax-D FA 105mm f/2.5 Limited DC WR.

...and make it a Macro.

vector · 10-14-2021, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by ehrwien

What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series? I feel like going wider than 21 or longer than 100 (yes, I mean the macro :P ) would not fit with the "compact" design goal of the limiteds.

Maybe a DFA Limited 50mm f1.7. About the size and weight of the FA77 and 2/3 the price of the DFA*.

**Serkevan** · 10-14-2021, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

...and make it a Macro.

I'd be willing to accept 0.5x to keep sizes down.

**Pål Jensen** · 10-14-2021, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

I'd be willing to accept 0.5x to keep sizes down.

Actually they did design a FA 90/3.5 Macro Limited in the film days that never saw the light of day. It went to 0.5x but either a close focusing lens or an extension tube that made it go to 1:1, was to be included with the lens.

10-14-2021, 06:21 AM - 1 Like	#65
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	No published MTF or am I missing something? Pentax has published mtf for all recent lenses. Perhaps the Limiteds are off limits to "numbers" even in terms of showing them. Price is about the same as the Zeiss Milvus 21 right? That number is hard to forget Pentax is moving with the big girls now. Last edited by house; 10-14-2021 at 06:29 AM.

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10-14-2021, 05:18 AM - 1 Like	#61
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Ticks every box for me. Looks like I can retire my Zeiss 25

10-14-2021, 05:30 AM	#62
tncasual Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Tennessee Posts: 880	Ouch. I guess I will wait for people to unload their old FA 20mm to fund this purchase. I would love to have this, but that price is out of reach.

10-14-2021, 05:53 AM - 1 Like	#63
VictorDA Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lyon area, France Posts: 718	Originally posted by ehrwien What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series? I'm rooting for a 58mm f/1.7, there is a gap between the DFA*50 and the 77, or (in Limiteds) between 43 and 77 Announcement expected in 2027 ---------- Post added 14-10-21 at 14:55 ---------- Originally posted by tncasual Ouch. I guess I will wait for people to unload their old FA 20mm to fund this purchase. I would love to have this, but that price is out of reach. Same here, I can't justify it, neither would I be able to actually use it with peace of mind

10-14-2021, 06:16 AM - 1 Like	#64
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,639	All data is published: HD Pentax-D FA 21mm F2.4 ED Limited DC WR Reviews - D FA Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database And the Special Site is online: D FA Limited \| PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site \| RICOH IMAGING As well as the product page: HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR / Limited / Wide-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Products \| RICOH IMAGING HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR Here's the press release: HD PENTAX-D FA 21mm F2.4ED Limited DC WR :An ultra-wide-angle single-focus lens for use with PENTAX K-mount full-frame digital SLR cameras \| RICOH IMAGING And the specsheet-dfa21mm_eng.pdf: ricoh-imaging.eu/de_de/mwdownloads/download/link/id/1007/ Last edited by angerdan; 10-14-2021 at 10:14 AM.

10-14-2021, 07:08 AM - 1 Like	#66
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,803	Originally posted by Madaboutpix An exciting addition to the Pentax FF lens line-up and a reason to celebrate, both the fact of a new FF lens and what it will likely offer. But it also confirms me in sticking with my APS-C system. Seriously, for that kind of money - which may be well justified in the FF context, I don't doubt that for a second - I would get the mother of all APS-C wideangle zooms, the DA11-18, or two to three of the existing DA Limiteds brandnew, to say nothing of the bulk and weight of an equivalent FL kit. (Not that I would have that kind of photo budget without serious and prolonged saving anyway.) Mind you, before I'm ripped apart, not begrudging anybody anything, just thinking aloud. May the new FA Limited find many friends and help creating enough revenue to help Ricoh with renovating and further enhancing their APS-C line-up too. There are quite a few old-SDM corpses to replace, which is why the new DA16-50 is so welcome, and the DA Limited primes could use a WR do-up too. (I know that I'm complaining from a position of comfort, with all that we already have, but we're entitled to our various dreams, aren't we?) I'm also in the "glad it exists for the FF folks, but as an APS-C shooter it doesn't make any sense" camp. I have both the DA 21 f/3.2 LTD and the 20-40 LTD, so this would bring only marginal gains for a whopping big pricetag. You could probably buy a full set of excellent condition/used DA limiteds (15/21/35/40/70) for the new cost of this lens. At one point I said my most wanted lens was the DA21 LTD with WR. But I came to the conclusion that the APS-C solution to that was the 20-40 LTD, and it still is.

10-14-2021, 07:23 AM	#67
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by ThorSanchez I'm also in the "glad it exists for the FF folks, but as an APS-C shooter it doesn't make any sense" camp. I have both the DA 21 f/3.2 LTD and the 20-40 LTD, so this would bring only marginal gains for a whopping big pricetag. You could probably buy a full set of excellent condition/used DA limiteds (15/21/35/40/70) for the new cost of this lens. At one point I said my most wanted lens was the DA21 LTD with WR. But I came to the conclusion that the APS-C solution to that was the 20-40 LTD, and it still is. The 20-40 is also the better lens.

10-14-2021, 07:24 AM - 2 Likes	#68
Jeff Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 837	Originally posted by JPT There's a "Special Site" page about this now. D FA Limited \| PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site \| RICOH IMAGING Also two pages of photographer reports with some samples. Kazuyuki Okajima HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR Impression \| PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site \| RICOH IMAGING Keita Sasaki HD PENTAX-D FA 21mmF2.4ED Limited DC WR Impression \| PENTAX Limited Lens Special Site \| RICOH IMAGING And a message from the developers about the lens concept. Development Story \| PENTAX Limited Lens Special site \| PENTAX Limited Lens \| RICOH IMAGING Thanks for the links! Boy, I just love Ricoh's Special Sites - they radiate all that Pentax is about now; I love reading all the details, looking at the images - I'm sold! I have the other three Limiteds, so how could I not add this one?

10-14-2021, 07:57 AM	#69
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by house Pentax is moving with the big girls now. Let's just hope that they don't make themselves as irrelevant as the Contax became at the end.

10-14-2021, 08:08 AM	#70
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,188	Originally posted by lytrytyr Let's just hope that they don't make themselves as irrelevant as the Contax became at the end. I would never have thought of that notion. Not sure how it is related to the introduction of this new fantastic lens. No need for hope. - Craig

10-14-2021, 08:26 AM - 1 Like	#71
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,525	Originally posted by ehrwien What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series? (...) HD Pentax-D FA 105mm f/2.5 Limited DC WR.

10-14-2021, 08:33 AM - 2 Likes	#72
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Mistral75 HD Pentax-D FA 105mm f/2.5 Limited DC WR. ...and make it a Macro.

10-14-2021, 08:35 AM	#73
vector Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Alberta Posts: 713	Originally posted by ehrwien What other focal lengths could be added to the DFA Limited series? I feel like going wider than 21 or longer than 100 (yes, I mean the macro :P ) would not fit with the "compact" design goal of the limiteds. Maybe a DFA Limited 50mm f1.7. About the size and weight of the FA77 and 2/3 the price of the DFA*.

10-14-2021, 08:36 AM	#74
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976 Original Poster	Originally posted by Pål Jensen ...and make it a Macro. I'd be willing to accept 0.5x to keep sizes down.

10-14-2021, 08:46 AM	#75
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Serkevan I'd be willing to accept 0.5x to keep sizes down. Actually they did design a FA 90/3.5 Macro Limited in the film days that never saw the light of day. It went to 0.5x but either a close focusing lens or an extension tube that made it go to 1:1, was to be included with the lens.

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