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reh321 · 11-29-2021, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

That's been my guess unless the 645 has been dropped for good (I don't think that its likely). It seems like another FF camera is a long way away - at least two years? And from what they said it seems like a new entry level APS body isn't right around the corner either. What else in the near camera pipeline than a new 645?

I would expect another '645' only if they have nothing else to work on.
The K-70 could be improved, as could the K-1ii; in both cases, the K-3iii shows obvious paths of improvement.
If neither is ready for release, maybe Pentax just won't release anything new for awhile - that happened in the gap before the K-3iii.
We don't always have to have a new 'toy' available.

Smolk · 11-29-2021, 08:24 AM

It would be very interesting to see what they come up with if they do. Even though I no longer have a 645 and just a single lens left.

Kunzite · 11-29-2021, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

I know, and I guess a mirror replacement isn't a DIY job, but if it were and if it were reversible it would be double interesting.

I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly.
Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost?
Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one.

texandrews · 11-29-2021, 10:47 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by OoKU

Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss.

BING BING BING BING BING in my head when read this!!! Holy moley, I so hope you are right!

Kunzite · 11-29-2021, 10:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by OoKU

Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss.

Wow, should we expect something at CP+?

**Mikesul** · 11-29-2021, 12:00 PM

However likely these ideas are to be implemented their discussion certainly has elevated the mood around here.

house · 11-29-2021, 12:20 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly.
Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost?
Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one.

Including the AF assembly in a camera that's designed for MF sounds like a lot of money down the drain. I don't think many would switch back and forth considering the likely cost of the job.

**RobA_Oz** · 11-29-2021, 01:42 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by OoKU

Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss.

Originally posted by Smolk

Is this a rumour or a leak?
Hoping the latter, fearing the former.

Not that I’m in the market for one, but I do hope this is correct. The 645D and 645Z were “halo” products that kept the brand alive in the consciousness of professionals who would otherwise have dismissed it.

reh321 · 11-29-2021, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly.
Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost?
Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one.

I might consider a MF K-1 ........ I've accumulated a bunch of old film lenses. including some Takumars, which I use with my K-30, since they allow me to set aperture at the lens.
It would probably still cost more than I typically pay for a camera body.

Paul the Sunman · 11-29-2021, 02:18 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Not that I’m in the market for one, but I do hope this is correct. The 645D and 645Z were “halo” products that kept the brand alive in the consciousness of professionals who would otherwise have dismissed it.

I think they've been spooked by Fujifilm. There would be a lot of catching up to do. To start with, they would really need to get SR into it.

But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice?

**Pål Jensen** · 11-29-2021, 02:24 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I think they've been spooked by Fujifilm. There would be a lot of catching up to do. To start with, they would really need to get SR into it.

But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice?

150mp and great optical viewfinder....

wadge22 · 11-29-2021, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice?

Affordable vintage glass is another definite plus.

Smolk · 11-29-2021, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

150mp and great optical viewfinder....

That would be overkill but they would leapfrog Fuji, yes. As for the OVF, would they implement the innovations they made with the K-3 III? That might be too much, in fact.

Mistral75 · 11-29-2021, 03:11 PM - **3 Likes**

Since the Greek alphabet is kind of trendy nowadays, let's wait for the 645Ω, the ultimate Pentax 645 camera, the one none can 'resist'.

wadge22 · 11-29-2021, 03:17 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

Since the Greek alphabet is kind of trendy nowadays, let's wait for the 645Ω, the ultimate Pentax 645 camera, the one none can 'resist'.

Might be inadvisable. A couple weeks ago the Pentax Omicron would have sounded really cool to me...

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11-29-2021, 08:18 AM	#76
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by Pål Jensen That's been my guess unless the 645 has been dropped for good (I don't think that its likely). It seems like another FF camera is a long way away - at least two years? And from what they said it seems like a new entry level APS body isn't right around the corner either. What else in the near camera pipeline than a new 645? I would expect another '645' only if they have nothing else to work on. The K-70 could be improved, as could the K-1ii; in both cases, the K-3iii shows obvious paths of improvement. If neither is ready for release, maybe Pentax just won't release anything new for awhile - that happened in the gap before the K-3iii. We don't always have to have a new 'toy' available.

11-29-2021, 08:24 AM	#77
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	It would be very interesting to see what they come up with if they do. Even though I no longer have a 645 and just a single lens left.

11-29-2021, 08:49 AM	#78
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Smolk I know, and I guess a mirror replacement isn't a DIY job, but if it were and if it were reversible it would be double interesting. I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly. Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost? Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one.

11-29-2021, 10:47 AM - 1 Like	#79
texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,400	Originally posted by OoKU Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss. BING BING BING BING BING in my head when read this!!! Holy moley, I so hope you are right!

11-29-2021, 10:50 AM - 1 Like	#80
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by OoKU Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss. Wow, should we expect something at CP+?

11-29-2021, 12:00 PM	#81
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	However likely these ideas are to be implemented their discussion certainly has elevated the mood around here.

11-29-2021, 12:20 PM - 2 Likes	#82
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Kunzite I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly. Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost? Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one. Including the AF assembly in a camera that's designed for MF sounds like a lot of money down the drain. I don't think many would switch back and forth considering the likely cost of the job.

11-29-2021, 01:42 PM - 2 Likes	#83
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by OoKU Because the 645 follow-up camera, has been completed, just waiting for release, and do not need to discuss. Originally posted by Smolk Is this a rumour or a leak? Hoping the latter, fearing the former. Not that I’m in the market for one, but I do hope this is correct. The 645D and 645Z were “halo” products that kept the brand alive in the consciousness of professionals who would otherwise have dismissed it.

11-29-2021, 01:43 PM	#84
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by Kunzite I guess they'd want to keep the extra costs down by cutting on the AF module assembly. Not sure about reversible. DIY, definitely not; in service... I don't know. In theory they could also put back the AF module (if they don't e.g. use a different mirror box; but how much would it cost? Probably it would be cheaper just to sell the camera and buy a new, standard one. I might consider a MF K-1 ........ I've accumulated a bunch of old film lenses. including some Takumars, which I use with my K-30, since they allow me to set aperture at the lens. It would probably still cost more than I typically pay for a camera body.

11-29-2021, 02:18 PM - 1 Like	#85
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,847	Originally posted by RobA_Oz Not that I’m in the market for one, but I do hope this is correct. The 645D and 645Z were “halo” products that kept the brand alive in the consciousness of professionals who would otherwise have dismissed it. I think they've been spooked by Fujifilm. There would be a lot of catching up to do. To start with, they would really need to get SR into it. But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice?

11-29-2021, 02:24 PM - 1 Like	#86
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I think they've been spooked by Fujifilm. There would be a lot of catching up to do. To start with, they would really need to get SR into it. But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice? 150mp and great optical viewfinder....

11-29-2021, 02:49 PM	#87
wadge22 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: NE Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 897	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman But anyway, they would not compete in compactness, so what is there that they could bring to the table that would make make it the MF of choice? Affordable vintage glass is another definite plus.

11-29-2021, 02:55 PM	#88
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by Pål Jensen 150mp and great optical viewfinder.... That would be overkill but they would leapfrog Fuji, yes. As for the OVF, would they implement the innovations they made with the K-3 III? That might be too much, in fact.

11-29-2021, 03:11 PM - 3 Likes	#89
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Since the Greek alphabet is kind of trendy nowadays, let's wait for the 645Ω, the ultimate Pentax 645 camera, the one none can 'resist'.

11-29-2021, 03:17 PM - 2 Likes	#90
wadge22 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: NE Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 897	Originally posted by Mistral75 Since the Greek alphabet is kind of trendy nowadays, let's wait for the 645Ω, the ultimate Pentax 645 camera, the one none can 'resist'. Might be inadvisable. A couple weeks ago the Pentax Omicron would have sounded really cool to me...

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