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JPT · 12-13-2021, 07:36 AM - **5 Likes**

Not sure why Nokishita Camera has grouped these products in one report, but they seem to have been added to retailers product lists.

It looks like there will soon be an official kit with the K-3 III and the DA 20-40 Limited (black or silver). This should sweeten the deal for some people.

Tokina is also making the latest version of their mirror lens available in K-mount (as well as many others), the 400mm F8 IIS. NIce to see a few makers still see the value in making K-mount lenses.

https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1470345179077181441

Last edited by JPT; 12-13-2021 at 04:27 PM.

BarneyL · 12-13-2021, 07:42 AM

Isn't this Tokina mirror lens the same as Kenko one that has been available for quite a while?

**pres589** · 12-13-2021, 07:54 AM

Barney, yes, I'm fairly positive it's the same lens.

JPT · 12-13-2021, 07:57 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BarneyL

Isn't this Tokina mirror lens the same as Kenko one that has been available for quite a while?

I think it's been through a few generations without any significant changes. Kenko-Tokina is one company. In any case, it's good to see Tokina has not abandoned K-mount, even of the product is not likely to excite anyone.

**FozzFoster** · 12-13-2021, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by JPT

Kenko-Tokina is one company.

Thank you for posting this update!
And for sharing your abundant wealth of knowledge.
I learn something everyday

Mistral75 · 12-13-2021, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by BarneyL

Isn't this Tokina mirror lens the same as Kenko one that has been available for quite a while?

It's the Kenko lens: ケンコー「ミラーレンズ 400mm F8 IIS」means Kenko 400mm f/8 IIS mirror lens.

I don't know why the OP wrote Tokina instead of Kenko.

Mistral75 · 12-13-2021, 09:24 AM

By the way, the latest version was named Tokina SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF and the penultimate version was named Kenko 400mm f/8 N II.

The 400mm f/8 N II was available in Pentax K mount, the SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF was not.

**kiwi_jono** · 12-13-2021, 12:37 PM - **1 Like**

K3III + DA 20-40 is a great pairing and makes a lot of sense.

**ramseybuckeye** · 12-13-2021, 01:23 PM

DA 20-40 is a great lens, that should help some people get it with a savings.

**RobA_Oz** · 12-13-2021, 01:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

By the way, the latest version was named Tokina SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF and the penultimate version was named Kenko 400mm f/8 N II.

The 400mm f/8 N II was available in Pentax K mount, the SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF was not.

With no aperture setting to contend with and, I presume, no AF drive (correct me if I’m wrong) you’d have to wonder why the rebadge didn’t carry over a Pentax K variant.

BarneyL · 12-13-2021, 01:49 PM - **1 Like**

Afaik those mirror lenses are actually T mount with the target mount screwed on, so adapting to K mount shouldn't be a problem.

Lloyd_Christmas · 12-13-2021, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by BarneyL

Afaik those mirror lenses are actually T mount with the target mount screwed on, so adapting to K mount shouldn't be a problem.

Are those mirror lenses those ones that look like a giant barrel on the front of the camera?

JPT · 12-13-2021, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

It's the Kenko lens: ケンコー「ミラーレンズ 400mm F8 IIS」means Kenko 400mm f/8 IIS mirror lens.

I don't know why the OP wrote Tokina instead of Kenko.

You're right, sorry for the mistake. I guess I just read "Tokina" because I consider them the same company.

reh321 · 12-13-2021, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Lloyd_Christmas

Are those mirror lenses those ones that look like a giant barrel on the front of the camera?

yes .... and bokeh that leaves you ready for a breakfast of donuts.

JPT · 12-13-2021, 04:58 PM

Actually, It's kind of interesting to see that Pentax Rumors reported this information including my screw-up with Tokina in the product name, while attributing it to Nokishita. It indicates that they just copy-paste information from this site with no fact-checking.

12-13-2021, 07:36 AM - 5 Likes	#1
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	K-3 III + 20-40 kit coming soon, also refreshed version of Kenko 400/8 mirror lens Not sure why Nokishita Camera has grouped these products in one report, but they seem to have been added to retailers product lists. It looks like there will soon be an official kit with the K-3 III and the DA 20-40 Limited (black or silver). This should sweeten the deal for some people. Tokina is also making the latest version of their mirror lens available in K-mount (as well as many others), the 400mm F8 IIS. NIce to see a few makers still see the value in making K-mount lenses. https://twitter.com/nokishita_c/status/1470345179077181441 Last edited by JPT; 12-13-2021 at 04:27 PM.

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JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Originally posted by BarneyL Isn't this Tokina mirror lens the same as Kenko one that has been available for quite a while? I think it's been through a few generations without any significant changes. Kenko-Tokina is one company. In any case, it's good to see Tokina has not abandoned K-mount, even of the product is not likely to excite anyone.

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FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by JPT Kenko-Tokina is one company. Thank you for posting this update! And for sharing your abundant wealth of knowledge. I learn something everyday

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by BarneyL Isn't this Tokina mirror lens the same as Kenko one that has been available for quite a while? It's the Kenko lens: ケンコー「ミラーレンズ 400mm F8 IIS」means Kenko 400mm f/8 IIS mirror lens. I don't know why the OP wrote Tokina instead of Kenko.

12-13-2021, 09:24 AM	#7
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	By the way, the latest version was named Tokina SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF and the penultimate version was named Kenko 400mm f/8 N II. The 400mm f/8 N II was available in Pentax K mount, the SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF was not.

12-13-2021, 12:37 PM - 1 Like	#8
kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	K3III + DA 20-40 is a great pairing and makes a lot of sense.

12-13-2021, 01:23 PM	#9
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RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by Mistral75 By the way, the latest version was named Tokina SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF and the penultimate version was named Kenko 400mm f/8 N II. The 400mm f/8 N II was available in Pentax K mount, the SZX 400mm f/8 Reflex MF was not. With no aperture setting to contend with and, I presume, no AF drive (correct me if I’m wrong) you’d have to wonder why the rebadge didn’t carry over a Pentax K variant.

12-13-2021, 01:49 PM - 1 Like	#11
BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 899	Afaik those mirror lenses are actually T mount with the target mount screwed on, so adapting to K mount shouldn't be a problem.

12-13-2021, 03:38 PM	#12
Lloyd_Christmas Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 462	Originally posted by BarneyL Afaik those mirror lenses are actually T mount with the target mount screwed on, so adapting to K mount shouldn't be a problem. Are those mirror lenses those ones that look like a giant barrel on the front of the camera?

12-13-2021, 04:26 PM	#13
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mistral75 It's the Kenko lens: ケンコー「ミラーレンズ 400mm F8 IIS」means Kenko 400mm f/8 IIS mirror lens. I don't know why the OP wrote Tokina instead of Kenko. You're right, sorry for the mistake. I guess I just read "Tokina" because I consider them the same company.

12-13-2021, 04:41 PM	#14
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Lloyd_Christmas Are those mirror lenses those ones that look like a giant barrel on the front of the camera? yes .... and bokeh that leaves you ready for a breakfast of donuts.

12-13-2021, 04:58 PM	#15
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821 Original Poster	Actually, It's kind of interesting to see that Pentax Rumors reported this information including my screw-up with Tokina in the product name, while attributing it to Nokishita. It indicates that they just copy-paste information from this site with no fact-checking.

K-3 III + 20-40 kit coming soon, also refreshed version of Kenko 400/8 mirror lens

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