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spe · 12-14-2008, 11:48 AM

Personally, I'm not sure we can't judge about anything looking to such picture. You can find many things there if you let your imagination to run free

, that strange bulb on the lens may even be returned PZ control switch, but supposedly this is just shutter button

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CaymanImaging · 12-14-2008, 12:22 PM

I wouldn't spend too much time trying to guess features on Yvon's photos. Not speaking for him, but I'm sure it's a K20 blacked out.

So my question is this...

If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades???

I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it.

Anyone know anything more about the 645D being announced?

regken · 12-14-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by CaymanImaging

So my question is this...

If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades???

I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it.

IF it's implemented properly, i.e. will register location in RAW EXIF file within 10 meters it would cost you about $200 to do the same thing with a stand alone GPS unit. I'd be willing to pay the $200 for the feature just to eliminate the hassle of carrying the handheld GPS.

Samsungian · 12-14-2008, 12:46 PM

I added a K20D 5 weeks ago and I really like it.

I'd guess if K20D GPS body is the mystery announcement then K20D will likely drop from system and then the only way to get a Samsung made Cmos sensor K Mount will be the GPS K20D unless k20D will fill in the void K200D is creating. As K20D first launched at $1299 then this would be a good reference for new GPS body. If so then its a $500 premium or $700 premium feature if you buy K20D out of Canada today. K200D is still removed from Japanese Language section of pentax japan website so its been discontinued in home market.

Originally posted by CaymanImaging

I wouldn't spend too much time trying to guess features on Yvon's photos. Not speaking for him, but I'm sure it's a K20 blacked out.

So my question is this...

If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades???

I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it.

Anyone know anything more about the 645D being announced?

ibk · 12-14-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by vitalsax

The total absence of news makes us dream on a better solution for our future, maybe is just a new p&S. I hope not!

No, it's not a P&S and it shows the future of Pentax... in a way.
It definitely fall in line with their new tagline - BE INTERESTING

RMabo · 12-14-2008, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by ibk

It's something very beautiful!
I know it's nothing, but this is the most I can tell you.

Like the K-m with Swarowski crystals?! Oh no, that one was... hm, well... rather special looking, to put it politely. ::ugh:

Blue · 12-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by regken

IF it's implemented properly, i.e. will register location in RAW EXIF file within 10 meters it would cost you about $200 to do the same thing with a stand alone GPS unit. I'd be willing to pay the $200 for the feature just to eliminate the hassle of carrying the handheld GPS.

The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc.

regken · 12-14-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Blue

The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc.

Isn't that special. Now what does that have to do with the Pentax?

Blue · 12-14-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by regken

Isn't that special. Now what does that have to do with the Pentax?

You were tauting about other manufacturers making P&S with GPS in another thread and that the small gps chips could be put into the k20d without increasing its size. And you are posting in this thread that you want it with 10 meter resolution also. That's all.

Pentax could do a better gps unit in a grip based model that could come closer to 10 meters.

thibs · 12-14-2008, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Blue

The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc.

GPS when not as good as real good seperate receivers will always be less reliable but 100 meters isn't acceptable to me indeed.

That said, if only 3 satellites on the sky, there's no wonder, ever ...

regken · 12-14-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Blue

You were tauting about other manufacturers making P&S with GPS in another thread and that the small gps chips could be put into the k20d without increasing its size. And you are posting in this thread that you want it with 10 meter resolution also. That's all.

Pentax could do a better gps unit in a grip based model that could come closer to 10 meters.

I think we should agree to disagree. My position is simply this. IMO Pentax can put a GPS unit in the body that has 10 meters accuracy without increasing the body size and charge less than $200 for it. If for any reason they can't do all of these things I won't buy it. If they can I will stretch my budget to buy it.

**ManuH** · 12-14-2008, 03:50 PM

My wish, if there is indeed a GPS option is to have it in the grip. I don't see a GPS taking much space, I have one in my tiny Blackberry.

**Sailor** · 12-14-2008, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by CaymanImaging

So my question is this...

If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades???

I would welcome the feature only if it didn't add a cent to the current street price nor an additional gram to the camera's weight; i.e. it would be way down on my wish list. However, I can see where some would find it invaluable - particularly those that shoot away from easily identifiable landmarks.

Still, I'd rather Pentax spend development time on more fundamental issues - like developing a competitive AF system that works with my DA and FA lenses.

There is a new K20D, in a closet under my wife's custody, that I'll be getting on Christmas morning. If the announcement on Tuesday (assuming there is one) indicates a profound upgrade - I've still got time to send it back. Seems doubtful to me - if Pentax is concerned with the NA market, December 16 is a pretty weird time to introduce an important new product. But, hey, Pentax thinking has always been sort of "orthogonal" (not a bad thing, actually), so who knows?

Jer

**ManuH** · 12-14-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Sailor

Seems doubtful to me - if Pentax is concerned with the NA market, December 16 is a pretty weird time to introduce an important new product. But, hey, Pentax thinking has always been sort of "orthogonal" (not a bad thing, actually), so who knows?

Maybe Japaneses are not that much concerned with christmas as we are? Or simply the new product is the 645D and this kind of product is not affected by christmas sales.

regken · 12-14-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Sailor

"orthogonal"

Jer

That sent me running to the online dictionary, LOL. I'll take door B or C.

12-14-2008, 12:46 PM	#19
Samsungian Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 1,337	No GPS feature needed for me in K20D I added a K20D 5 weeks ago and I really like it. I'd guess if K20D GPS body is the mystery announcement then K20D will likely drop from system and then the only way to get a Samsung made Cmos sensor K Mount will be the GPS K20D unless k20D will fill in the void K200D is creating. As K20D first launched at $1299 then this would be a good reference for new GPS body. If so then its a $500 premium or $700 premium feature if you buy K20D out of Canada today. K200D is still removed from Japanese Language section of pentax japan website so its been discontinued in home market. Originally posted by CaymanImaging I wouldn't spend too much time trying to guess features on Yvon's photos. Not speaking for him, but I'm sure it's a K20 blacked out. So my question is this... If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades??? I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it. Anyone know anything more about the 645D being announced?

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12-14-2008, 11:48 AM	#16
spe Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 27	Personally, I'm not sure we can't judge about anything looking to such picture. You can find many things there if you let your imagination to run free , that strange bulb on the lens may even be returned PZ control switch, but supposedly this is just shutter button .

12-14-2008, 12:22 PM	#17
CaymanImaging Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Photos: Gallery Posts: 194	I wouldn't spend too much time trying to guess features on Yvon's photos. Not speaking for him, but I'm sure it's a K20 blacked out. So my question is this... If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades??? I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it. Anyone know anything more about the 645D being announced?

12-14-2008, 12:42 PM	#18
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by CaymanImaging So my question is this... If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades??? I personally have no use for it, but with all of the weather seals and the marketing of that by Pentax, I would think there is a market for it. IF it's implemented properly, i.e. will register location in RAW EXIF file within 10 meters it would cost you about $200 to do the same thing with a stand alone GPS unit. I'd be willing to pay the $200 for the feature just to eliminate the hassle of carrying the handheld GPS.

12-14-2008, 01:09 PM	#20
ibk Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Photos: Gallery Posts: 55	Originally posted by vitalsax The total absence of news makes us dream on a better solution for our future, maybe is just a new p&S. I hope not! No, it's not a P&S and it shows the future of Pentax... in a way. It definitely fall in line with their new tagline - BE INTERESTING

12-14-2008, 01:13 PM	#21
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by ibk It's something very beautiful! I know it's nothing, but this is the most I can tell you. Like the K-m with Swarowski crystals?! Oh no, that one was... hm, well... rather special looking, to put it politely. ::ugh:

12-14-2008, 01:29 PM	#22
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by regken IF it's implemented properly, i.e. will register location in RAW EXIF file within 10 meters it would cost you about $200 to do the same thing with a stand alone GPS unit. I'd be willing to pay the $200 for the feature just to eliminate the hassle of carrying the handheld GPS. The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc.

12-14-2008, 02:12 PM	#23
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by Blue The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc. Isn't that special. Now what does that have to do with the Pentax?

12-14-2008, 02:27 PM	#24
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by regken Isn't that special. Now what does that have to do with the Pentax? You were tauting about other manufacturers making P&S with GPS in another thread and that the small gps chips could be put into the k20d without increasing its size. And you are posting in this thread that you want it with 10 meter resolution also. That's all. Pentax could do a better gps unit in a grip based model that could come closer to 10 meters.

12-14-2008, 03:15 PM	#25
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Blue The manual says that the gps in the N***n P6000 P&S could be off by hundreds of meters depending on location etc. GPS when not as good as real good seperate receivers will always be less reliable but 100 meters isn't acceptable to me indeed. That said, if only 3 satellites on the sky, there's no wonder, ever ...

12-14-2008, 03:38 PM	#26
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by Blue You were tauting about other manufacturers making P&S with GPS in another thread and that the small gps chips could be put into the k20d without increasing its size. And you are posting in this thread that you want it with 10 meter resolution also. That's all. Pentax could do a better gps unit in a grip based model that could come closer to 10 meters. I think we should agree to disagree. My position is simply this. IMO Pentax can put a GPS unit in the body that has 10 meters accuracy without increasing the body size and charge less than $200 for it. If for any reason they can't do all of these things I won't buy it. If they can I will stretch my budget to buy it.

12-14-2008, 03:50 PM	#27
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	My wish, if there is indeed a GPS option is to have it in the grip. I don't see a GPS taking much space, I have one in my tiny Blackberry.

12-14-2008, 04:14 PM	#28
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,203	Originally posted by CaymanImaging So my question is this... If it is the K20D GPS, would you use the feature and how much are you willing to pay for it, considering there are no major upgrades??? I would welcome the feature only if it didn't add a cent to the current street price nor an additional gram to the camera's weight; i.e. it would be way down on my wish list. However, I can see where some would find it invaluable - particularly those that shoot away from easily identifiable landmarks. Still, I'd rather Pentax spend development time on more fundamental issues - like developing a competitive AF system that works with my DA and FA lenses. There is a new K20D, in a closet under my wife's custody, that I'll be getting on Christmas morning. If the announcement on Tuesday (assuming there is one) indicates a profound upgrade - I've still got time to send it back. Seems doubtful to me - if Pentax is concerned with the NA market, December 16 is a pretty weird time to introduce an important new product. But, hey, Pentax thinking has always been sort of "orthogonal" (not a bad thing, actually), so who knows? Jer

12-14-2008, 04:52 PM	#29
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by Sailor Seems doubtful to me - if Pentax is concerned with the NA market, December 16 is a pretty weird time to introduce an important new product. But, hey, Pentax thinking has always been sort of "orthogonal" (not a bad thing, actually), so who knows? Maybe Japaneses are not that much concerned with christmas as we are? Or simply the new product is the 645D and this kind of product is not affected by christmas sales.

12-14-2008, 04:54 PM	#30
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by Sailor "orthogonal" Jer That sent me running to the online dictionary, LOL. I'll take door B or C.

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