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10-29-2022, 05:11 AM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by shyrsio Quote
I was thinking: this could really help with the red color shift in sunsets. One of the things that really bugs me about the K1 sensor is its inaccuracy on sunset colors, the bright red is blown out early on and turns into yellow, really unrealistic. I have noticed that with abour -2ev the red stays on, but you loose exposure on the rest.
In theory, if the grad ND is simulated as shown on the Japanese site, it should do the work, since it merges the shot with an under exposed shot.
Just my 2 cents.
Interesting thought. I agree about the red-yellow shift - I've not yet found a convincing way of combating it.

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Even if you "spot" exposure and bring back the light via brutal post-processing ?

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Has anyone tried to buy the gnd feature outside of Japan? Could I try to buy if I use a VPN, or is their system blocking non-japanese credit card?
I bought a second-hand k-1 from a Japanese retailer, maybe I could give it a try later
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Doesn't work outside of japan

Ok, I bit the bullet and tried to order. I used a VPN to connect to a japanese server, just in case.
You have to create an account to order. They ask you for a japanese address and you can only input kanji as your name. I entered all the infos of a forwarding inbox I have in Japan (tenso.com) and managed to create an account on Ricoh's japanese website. You're offered to pay in either 3 different ways: paypay (not a typo), credit card or coupon codes.
You need a japanese phone number to use paypay, so I tried to buy using my credit card.
Of course, the payment system triggered an error (obviously because the name and address on my credit card didn't match their infos).

tl;dr: no, you can't buy the GND feature without either a japanese phone number/paypay account or a credit card issued in japan, for now.


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QuoteOriginally posted by hundredf Quote
Ok, I bit the bullet and tried to order. I used a VPN to connect to a japanese server, just in case.
You have to create an account to order. They ask you for a japanese address and you can only input kanji as your name. I entered all the infos of a forwarding inbox I have in Japan (tenso.com) and managed to create an account on Ricoh's japanese website. You're offered to pay in either 3 different ways: paypay (not a typo), credit card or coupon codes.
You need a japanese phone number to use paypay, so I tried to buy using my credit card.
Of course, the payment system triggered an error (obviously because the name and address on my credit card didn't match their infos).

tl;dr: no, you can't buy the GND feature without either a japanese phone number/paypay account or a credit card issued in japan, for now.
I’m not sure why they are being so insular about this - nor do I understand why people are so determined to send their money to Ricoh/Pentax.
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Patience. They will make it available for the rest of us eventually.
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Being a purely "digital" product I see no logical reason to restrict it to a specific market if not that it is to be considered "experimental" and they are still deciding on price/business model/support policies for these paid upgrades. From this perspective, it's logical that they chose their home market as the testing ground, but I would be surprised if it will not be made available everywhere in the future. If the experiment is successful....

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QuoteOriginally posted by simon_199 Quote
Being a purely "digital" product I see no logical reason to restrict it to a specific market if not that it is to be considered "experimental" and they are still deciding on price/business model/support policies for these paid upgrades. From this perspective, it's logical that they chose their home market as the testing ground, but I would be surprised if it will not be made available everywhere in the future. If the experiment is successful....
Exactly this.

Pentax announced at the start of the year that they are changing their business model to an "e-commerce and studio-style manufacturing" one. They also made clear this would be done in Japan first. So it is not really a surprise that the optional paid-for profiles which are being rolled out under this new business model are Japan only.

When they figure out how to deliver products to the rest of the world under this new model, we will be able to access them too.
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There might be legal / compliance considerations too. As much as it's easy enough to set up a virtual storefront, larger companies are often cautious about tax, licenses/permits, local distribution agreements, etc.

It's much easier to whitelist one country. They might also be worried about piracy (we've already seen a few posts here asking how to obtain it for free) and anecdotally, that is probably more likely to develop outside of Japan.
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Both of those features are very, very limited unless on a tripod. Possibly at some point in the future they will come up with a way of allowing the digital grad ND to be used in a crippled way without a tripod as well by linking it to the shake reduction system.
DPS can be used only without a tripod...

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No japanese Pentax Ambassadors review this function?
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DPS can be used only without a tripod...[COLOR="Silver"]
Yes, and it is a very limited tool compared to using a tripod and regular pixel shift according to what I've read here.
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QuoteOriginally posted by simon_199 Quote
Being a purely "digital" product I see no logical reason to restrict it to a specific market if not that it is to be considered "experimental" and they are still deciding on price/business model/support policies for these paid upgrades. From this perspective, it's logical that they chose their home market as the testing ground, but I would be surprised if it will not be made available everywhere in the future. If the experiment is successful....

For digital sales there are mainly license issues that can hinder sales to different regions. Tax issues should be no-existant as they already have shops for EU and I think US so they could add it there as another product. Localization is not an issue as they are already offering various languages in menus and in such feature there are only some phrases to translate.


I think they consciously took the decision to offer it only for Japan, and I am not really sure it will reach other regions.
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I think they consciously took the decision to offer it only for Japan, and I am not really sure it will reach other regions.
Speculation on your part sir. I am quite sure we will get it in time.
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Speculation on your part sir. I am quite sure we will get it in time.
It is certainly true that certain jurisdictions may be hard to enable due to legal issues. This may well need to be a limited experiment. I think this is part of why Sony stopped making the PlayMemories apps and selling them (some were free, some were paid).
Ricoh gets credit for trying something new - but it can be murky waters to do this. Here's hoping they figure out a model for payment that works.
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