HD Pentax‐D FA Macro 100mm f/2.8 ED AW

**luftfluss** · 11-17-2022, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by x4rd

Is it still a screw drive lens?

Yes. In-lens motors are specified in Pentax nomenclature (SDM, DC, etc.)

Mistral75 · 11-17-2022, 04:17 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by luftfluss

Yes. In-lens motors are specified in Pentax nomenclature (SDM, DC, etc.)

In the mount denomination too:

KAF: screw drive
KAF2: screw drive + in-lens motor
KAF3: in-lens motor only
KAF4: in-lens motor, electronic aperture control

The HD Pentax‐D FA Macro 100mm f/2.8 ED AW is specified as KAF.

Slavek · 11-18-2022, 12:35 PM - **12 Likes**

Originally posted by x4rd

Is it still a screw drive lens?

Yes, it is.

DC motor would fit this lens more than original noisy screw driven AF.

So, I give the lens a quick rest at work. Just put it on my K-1 and took a few shots mainly to see a difference between WR and ED AW versions...

Lens is almost identical to WR version even the hood is the same part number as the older version :-)

From reflections on both front and rear elements you can see differences in color - new coatings are clearly there :-)

Crops from SOOC jpegs shot at F2.8:

Annoying CA of original WR version.

New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon.

Subjectively speaking, I think the new lens is a little bit sharper than WR.

Details:

Glad the K-1 has a Wi-Fi so I could download the SOOC jpegs to my phone and upload them.

house · 11-18-2022, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Slavek

Yes, it is.

DC motor would fit this lens more than original noisy screw driven AF.

So, I give the lens a quick rest at work. Just put it on my K-1 and took a few shots mainly to see a difference between WR and ED AW versions...

Lens is almost identical to WR version even the hood is the same part number as the older version :-)

From reflections on both front and rear elements you can see differences in color - new coatings are clearly there :-)

Crops from SOOC jpegs shot at F2.8:

Annoying CA of original WR version.

New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon.

Subjectively speaking, I think the new lens is a little bit sharper than WR.

Details:

Glad the K-1 has a Wi-Fi so I could download the SOOC jpegs to my phone and upload them.

Nice, thanks for the comparison!

**Ron Boggs** · 11-18-2022, 02:28 PM

Is that a little purp and green in the upper right on the new lens pic? And bokeh grapes too...

Mine should land Monday in brutal cold...we'll see how it likes that!

**mtngal** · 11-18-2022, 02:34 PM

Looks like a nice upgrade. I thought I had signed up to be notified about both the black and the silver on both Ricoh and B&H but haven’t received an email - I could have opted for the black only though. And I still can’t order one until I get back somewhere around the 1st or 2nd (sigh).

Has anyone else received theirs yet?

Sandy Hancock · 11-18-2022, 02:46 PM

I spoke to a very helpful guy at CR Kennedy's head office yesterday. Apparently, Australia is only getting THREE silver copies!
Also, he didn't think they would arrive until December, which is a little disappointing.

Those test shots are encouraging

tregubovav · 11-18-2022, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by mtngal

...
Has anyone else received theirs yet?

Amazon declared it will start shipping black version starting Dec 11.

I have ordered Silver one on B&H a night before they officially announced them via e-mail. I have chatted with them couple times (last time 2 days ago) and they continued to talk "Pentax did not provide us dates yet."

**MossyRocks** · 11-18-2022, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Slavek

New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon.

Given that the type of fringing I always got was the purple with the now old SMC D FA 100/2.8 WR Macro the lack of it in the shot you provided would lead one to believe that it would be a good performer for astro. Also I would agree that it may be a bit sharper wide open from your test shots which again bodes well for astro.

mr.b.snowden · 11-18-2022, 04:22 PM - **1 Like**

Ordered my silver one through Ricoh yesterday and it should get here next week (yay for Black Friday present to myself)!

Reed · 11-19-2022, 12:48 PM

I would like to get old SMC FA50/1.4 revamped this way...

Paul the Sunman · 11-19-2022, 01:01 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Reed

I would like to get old SMC FA50/1.4 revamped this way...

But that would step on the toes of the DFA* 50 f/1.4, so is unlikely.

thibs · 11-19-2022, 02:35 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

But that would step on the toes of the DFA* 50 f/1.4, so is unlikely.

Somehow, yes. But a modern revamped (with DC motor?) DFA50/1.7 would be cool.

Paul the Sunman · 11-19-2022, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by thibs

Somehow, yes. But a modern revamped (with DC motor?) DFA50/1.7 would be cool.

True. But a 50/1.7 was the kit lens in film days, and that has been supplanted by a wide-medium zoom. It probably doesn't have the universal appeal it used to.

thibs · 11-19-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

True. But a 50/1.7 was the kit lens in film days, and that has been supplanted by a wide-medium zoom. It probably doesn't have the universal appeal it used to.

No but two 50/1.4 in the range is a bit weird. For now there's the old one and the new one. Revamping the old 1.4 would be VERY weird IMO.
The 1.7 would be a different proposition.

Btw the kit lens rather was the 50/2 wasn't it ?

11-17-2022, 04:17 PM - 2 Likes	#152
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by luftfluss Yes. In-lens motors are specified in Pentax nomenclature (SDM, DC, etc.) In the mount denomination too: KAF: screw drive KAF2: screw drive + in-lens motor KAF3: in-lens motor only KAF4: in-lens motor, electronic aperture control The HD Pentax‐D FA Macro 100mm f/2.8 ED AW is specified as KAF.

11-18-2022, 12:35 PM - 12 Likes	#153
Slavek Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 66	Originally posted by x4rd Is it still a screw drive lens? Yes, it is. DC motor would fit this lens more than original noisy screw driven AF. So, I give the lens a quick rest at work. Just put it on my K-1 and took a few shots mainly to see a difference between WR and ED AW versions... Lens is almost identical to WR version even the hood is the same part number as the older version :-) From reflections on both front and rear elements you can see differences in color - new coatings are clearly there :-) Crops from SOOC jpegs shot at F2.8: Annoying CA of original WR version. New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon. Subjectively speaking, I think the new lens is a little bit sharper than WR. Details: Glad the K-1 has a Wi-Fi so I could download the SOOC jpegs to my phone and upload them. Last edited by Slavek; 11-18-2022 at 12:43 PM.

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11-17-2022, 02:52 PM	#151
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by x4rd Is it still a screw drive lens? Yes. In-lens motors are specified in Pentax nomenclature (SDM, DC, etc.)

11-18-2022, 02:09 PM	#154
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Slavek Yes, it is. DC motor would fit this lens more than original noisy screw driven AF. So, I give the lens a quick rest at work. Just put it on my K-1 and took a few shots mainly to see a difference between WR and ED AW versions... Lens is almost identical to WR version even the hood is the same part number as the older version :-) From reflections on both front and rear elements you can see differences in color - new coatings are clearly there :-) Crops from SOOC jpegs shot at F2.8: Annoying CA of original WR version. New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon. Subjectively speaking, I think the new lens is a little bit sharper than WR. Details: Glad the K-1 has a Wi-Fi so I could download the SOOC jpegs to my phone and upload them. Nice, thanks for the comparison!

11-18-2022, 02:28 PM	#155
Ron Boggs Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MT Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,349	Is that a little purp and green in the upper right on the new lens pic? And bokeh grapes too... Mine should land Monday in brutal cold...we'll see how it likes that!

11-18-2022, 02:34 PM	#156
mtngal Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wherever I’m Parked Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,003	Looks like a nice upgrade. I thought I had signed up to be notified about both the black and the silver on both Ricoh and B&H but haven’t received an email - I could have opted for the black only though. And I still can’t order one until I get back somewhere around the 1st or 2nd (sigh). Has anyone else received theirs yet?

11-18-2022, 02:46 PM	#157
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	I spoke to a very helpful guy at CR Kennedy's head office yesterday. Apparently, Australia is only getting THREE silver copies! Also, he didn't think they would arrive until December, which is a little disappointing. Those test shots are encouraging

11-18-2022, 03:07 PM	#158
tregubovav Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Photos: Albums Posts: 41	Originally posted by mtngal ... Has anyone else received theirs yet? Amazon declared it will start shipping black version starting Dec 11. I have ordered Silver one on B&H a night before they officially announced them via e-mail. I have chatted with them couple times (last time 2 days ago) and they continued to talk "Pentax did not provide us dates yet."

11-18-2022, 03:14 PM	#159
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	Originally posted by Slavek New AW version with ED element is not suffering from CA. Finally! The question is astro - but the weather doesn’t seem to get better anytime soon. Given that the type of fringing I always got was the purple with the now old SMC D FA 100/2.8 WR Macro the lack of it in the shot you provided would lead one to believe that it would be a good performer for astro. Also I would agree that it may be a bit sharper wide open from your test shots which again bodes well for astro.

11-18-2022, 04:22 PM - 1 Like	#160
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Reed Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Warsaw Photos: Gallery Posts: 638	I would like to get old SMC FA50/1.4 revamped this way...

11-19-2022, 01:01 PM - 4 Likes	#162
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by Reed I would like to get old SMC FA50/1.4 revamped this way... But that would step on the toes of the DFA* 50 f/1.4, so is unlikely.

11-19-2022, 02:35 PM - 1 Like	#163
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman But that would step on the toes of the DFA* 50 f/1.4, so is unlikely. Somehow, yes. But a modern revamped (with DC motor?) DFA50/1.7 would be cool.

11-19-2022, 02:57 PM	#164
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by thibs Somehow, yes. But a modern revamped (with DC motor?) DFA50/1.7 would be cool. True. But a 50/1.7 was the kit lens in film days, and that has been supplanted by a wide-medium zoom. It probably doesn't have the universal appeal it used to.

11-19-2022, 03:00 PM	#165
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman True. But a 50/1.7 was the kit lens in film days, and that has been supplanted by a wide-medium zoom. It probably doesn't have the universal appeal it used to. No but two 50/1.4 in the range is a bit weird. For now there's the old one and the new one. Revamping the old 1.4 would be VERY weird IMO. The 1.7 would be a different proposition. Btw the kit lens rather was the 50/2 wasn't it ?