Pentax KF

bladerunner6 · 11-07-2022, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

From the guy who used to manage Nokishita Camera:

Colours: Black, Crystal White (limited to 700 units), Crystal Blue (limited to 700 units)
Kits: Body only and 18-55WR lens kit
Retail price: body ¥119,800, lens kit ¥139,800
Scheduled release date: 25 November 2022

Thanks for the information.

Looks like we only have a couple of weeks before we get the details.

**jersey** · 11-07-2022, 07:37 AM

Mistake, joke or a lesson of strapping new name to old gear? I wonder if it has new menu system or old.

nonpigliounoshoot · 11-07-2022, 07:38 AM

for me it is an astro version of the k70 as described in the user survey (release 2022) together with the monochrome k3III (possibly 2023).

OoKU · 11-07-2022, 07:48 AM

painting.

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This week.

The Squirrel Mafia · 11-07-2022, 07:52 AM - **2 Likes**

Interesting. I wonder if it now received the AF system that was in the K-3II & KP. I also wonder if it's still using a solenoid system or a stepper motor. Hmmm.....

que es tu · 11-07-2022, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by simon_199

I wonder why they still bundle cameras, albeit entry level, with the dated 18-55 with screwdrive AF and not with the more modern and appealing 18-50 RE...
Do they have warehouses chock full of 18-55 to empty ?

I thought the 18-50 wr re was discontinued? I could be wrong.

reh321 · 11-07-2022, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

Interesting. I wonder if it now received the AF system that was in the K-3II & KP. I also wonder if it's still using a solenoid system or a stepper motor. Hmmm.....

I would guess it still has the solenoid system - I don’t see any evidence of the stepper motor {no obvious bulge}, and they apparently did finally get reliability from the solenoid partway thru the K-70i’s time.

{I don’t understand Japan’s money system; how do these prices compare to the prices of the K-70i?}

bladerunner6 · 11-07-2022, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by reh321

I would guess it still has the solenoid system - I don’t see any evidence of the stepper motor {no obvious bulge}, and they apparently did finally get reliability from the solenoid partway thru the K-70i’s time.

{I don’t understand Japan’s money system; how do these prices compare to the prices of the K-70i?}

119000 yen is about $800.

US pricing can vary.

bladerunner6 · 11-07-2022, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by que es tu

I thought the 18-50 wr re was discontinued? I could be wrong.

The 18-50 is still on the roadmap from 8/22.

**pres589** · 11-07-2022, 08:50 AM

I think a newbie is going to be less likely to damage the DA-L 18-55 vs. the 18-50 RE. The RE seems interesting and capable of good images but they also seem to a bit fragile.

Sounds like an interesting development though I don't see myself in the market for such a camera. Wonder what kind of stop-down solenoids they used this time around...

texandrews · 11-07-2022, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by bladerunner6

119000 yen is about $800.

US pricing can vary.

Huh, pretty cheap. Interested to see what the specs are....

**Rondec** · 11-07-2022, 09:44 AM - **1 Like**

I think it makes sense. The K-70 is old enough that it wouldn't be hard to bump up its specs a little bit. New sensor, slightly faster frame rate, 4K video all seem like possibilities. Release price of 800 dollars says a street price in six months of 700 -- that's probably the best we can do with current inflation in place.

gatorguy · 11-07-2022, 10:20 AM

I've been guessing $997 at best for the new entry level replacement, considering a declining market and higher hardware costs. Perhaps I'll be proved wrong, with more chances of it if the KF is general spec bumps without wholesale hardware changes and feature additions.

D1N0 · 11-07-2022, 10:31 AM - **2 Likes**

It better have at least SAFOX 11 that was in the K-3 and not still good old SAFOX 10. Maybe a new 26mp sensor. I would rather have seen an improved KP.

bladerunner6 · 11-07-2022, 10:38 AM

The yen is pretty cheap right now.

1 USD to JPY - US Dollars to Japanese Yen Exchange Rate

This is pretty low historically:

Dollar Yen Exchange Rate (USD JPY) - Historical Chart | MacroTrends

That can definitely impact pricing, although the camera is made in The Philippines, so I don’t know how Ricoh works the import of it to the USA.

11-07-2022, 07:32 AM	#16
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by Mistral75 From the guy who used to manage Nokishita Camera: Colours: Black, Crystal White (limited to 700 units), Crystal Blue (limited to 700 units) Kits: Body only and 18-55WR lens kit Retail price: body ¥119,800, lens kit ¥139,800 Scheduled release date: 25 November 2022 Thanks for the information. Looks like we only have a couple of weeks before we get the details.

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