From the info, it appears that the K20 and K10 are not part of the survey. While the home market is important, one of the top markets for Pentax, has developed to be Europe.
Canon and Nikon are struggling with their über Pro FF cams, which have a way high price. Sony made a massive decision on the A900, and now markets are in recession.
I think that Pentax is in one of the better positions, they have already restructured after the Hoya takeover, and have found a good platform, with clear APS-C dedication, and therefore cheaper lenses than FF ones.
K10 was a combination of Samsung and Pentax, and it did extremely well in Japan. Samsung products can also be bought in Japan.
If Pentax was selling 0.9 % K20, 0.8 % K10, 0.5 % K100 / K100 super, and 0.4 % K-m (which came late on 2008); then they would have 4.2 %, this would take them ahead of Oly. Olympus, a company that did fine in 2008.
I really don’t care for these FUD posts, but if people like to try and get afraid of their own shadow; then go ahead. Hopefully this will take the steam a bit of the crazy prices that used Pentax lenses have gone for; times have been wild. With the K10, Pentax was third in the important markets, (behind C&N), they’ve held back a bit while merging and the other third tier campanies have played catch-up. From the info out of Hoya, now Pentax is ready to again shake up the market, like they did with the K-DSLR series :
“With a desire to offer cameras which will demonstrate our advantages, as announced in the Photokina held in Germany, we will relaunch ourselves next year [2009] as a manufacturer of all-weather cameras which are strong outdoors, highly water-resistant, splash-proof, and dustproof, small and light, easily portable and tough (durable).”
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/43594-hoya-future-bens-impact.html
I think it is very exciting times ahead. Hoya / Pentax has already made the company lean and ready, they paused a bit, and made the transition, and from the sounds of it, are ready for some positive surprises in 2009. I’m looking forward to PMA and CES.
The info in this thread had been discussed before, but apparently a user felt that making yet another thread. I haven’t read through all the posts, but it seems the same old, same old. Pentax have been declared dead for the past 25-30 years, yet they always bring up new innovations like the MZ series, or the K10 DSLR. K10 swept the market for awards, and sold extremely well, to give Pentax the magic third place seat. Every merger requires focus and time, to get all stems rolling forward again.
But hopefully some of the fearful ones will leave, so that the extremely inflated prices for used glass, can get to a more sane level.
Pentax has been making a profit, and is ready for the new times to come. I can’t wait for the DA 15 limited, DA* 55/1.4, and some more tele options like DA* 400/4.
I’ll be more concerned the day Thom Hogan start to come with positive predictions for Pentax, he has been wrong in pretty much everything that he has been trying to predict.
Sony is in the hot spot, they really need the A900 to be a success, but it might get squeezed by the outstanding D700, and the new Eos 5DII. Not certain that many C&N users will make the switch. And in these times, it will not be the majority of A700 owners that will make the jump. So Sony needs to be making the money on the A200, A300, and A350; likely lower the price to sell more. They’ve tried to take on the two major players, in this day and age; that is not an easy task. And they've used a lot of money and energy on it. Pentax and Oly have found more clear ground, and found a profile to work from.
As Mike Johnston states, though the heart might like the Sony, the sense is to go for Nikon or Canon. And in these times, people really try to be wise in their choices :
“I had to ask myself the question two ways. First, if I were spending my own scarce, hard-earned money? That would probably tilt me towards the Nikon—better support, more mindshare, greater corporate stability (at least in the camera division—once burned, and all that), much better market penetration, probably more robust resale value—plus I'm seduced by the D700's lovely B&W abilities. But if somebody put all three cameras with their respective 35mm ƒ/2 lenses on a platter and invited me to take one, I don't think I could resist the siren call of the beautiful Sony. It's a bit of a head/heart split.”
The Online Photographer: Sony vs. Nikon vs. Canon Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden 2) Pentax assets are almost as big as those of the Hoya optical section and rougly 1/3 of the total Hoya assets! Wow! And those are probably the lest uncertain numbers here. How come? I had got the impression that Hoya was the hugh company buying the small company Pentax. OK, Hoya has much more employees, but in assets the difference is not so large.
Seems like what certain market sources were saying at that time : Pentax was a bargain. Big U.S. hedgefounds were interested, because if Pentax was up for grabs, then it was at a great price for what could be had.