Ricoh working on a dSLR 2009 could it us a K Mount?

Adrian Owerko · 01-15-2009, 05:21 AM

Rumor or Not?: Ricoh working on a dSLR?
CameraRumors.com is featuring a credible rumor that Ricoh might be working on a dSLR for 2009 and beyond. It will be interesting to ponder in which direction they could go as far as a mount.

What are the possibilities for Ricoh? (this paragraph is pure speculation)

create their own mount? (too much work/investment)

use K-mount? (the closest thing to a "universal" mount)

Four Thirds? (would open the uncongested 4/3rds market to their lenses and bodies)

Micro Four Thirds? (they can make cute and adorable cameras inspired by the GRD/GX)

Clone mounts for Canon, Nikon or Alpha? (the biggest market share mounts)

Samsung Hybrid

Traditional Rangefinder mount

Last edited by Adrian Owerko; 01-15-2009 at 06:05 AM.

ftpaddict · 01-15-2009, 05:34 AM

They've had a history with the K-mount, and IMO I don't think any Pentaxian would mind a bit more choice.

Adrian Owerko · 01-15-2009, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

They've had a history with the K-mount, and IMO I don't think any Pentaxian would mind a bit more choice.

Ricoh GX200...

A DA ltd would look nice on that! I also read in a forum that ricoh is looking at maybe fuji for sensors (: yes please

ftpaddict · 01-15-2009, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Adrian Owerko

yes please

Pretty please!

Maybe something with better AF... you know - something Pentax hates doing.

eurostar · 01-15-2009, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Adrian Owerko

Ricoh GX200... A DA ltd would look nice on that! I also read in a forum that ricoh is looking at maybe fuji for sensors (: yes please

While K mount was free to use, when it became KA, and then the various iteration of K-AF, it was protected, so Ricoh can't use it freely.

If Ricoh is going the same route of the seventies, today it should use the 4/3 (or more probably micro 4/3).

ogl · 01-15-2009, 05:58 AM

For Leica M.

whatever7 · 01-15-2009, 06:00 AM

Most likely m4/3.

Erik · 01-15-2009, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by whatever7

Most likely m4/3.

Probably. But then, that wouldn't be a DSLR. Technically.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 01-15-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

Pretty please!

Maybe something with better AF... you know - something Pentax hates doing.

Didn't Ricoh basically gave up SLRs because of autofocus? They tried their own program version of the K-mount, which probably didn't sell very well (and today jam some lenses on the Pentax DSLRs) and then they decided they couln't afford making their own autofocus mount...like so many other manufacturers (Chinon, Konica...)... so I think it is unlikely that they would have any better knowledge on AF than Pentax.

whatever7 · 01-15-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Erik

Probably. But then, that wouldn't be a DSLR. Technically.

The thing is the economic will kill one or two more camera brands. And I would put Ricoh right in front of the candidate list, alone with Fuji. Olympus and Pentax are not far behind.

Don't put too much into this rumor.

solar1 · 01-15-2009, 11:53 AM

If you had read through the entire post, you would have seen that the original poster mis-read the so called quoted article in Amateur Photographer... the AP article made no mention of any new DSLR's.

snip:
"My apologies for not posting sooner with more details . . . it's been a busy few days.

And I may have mis-read the rather confusingly written article in AP, which gives the impression with its headline linking Ricoh and DSLRs, then hints at a 'secret project' and a 'fleet of extra staff' at Ricoh's R&D dept, and goes on to say that Ricoh wants 'to be the leader in high end compacts'. The DSLR reference peters out in the story, and on re-reading carefully, I think there is more in the headline, which is meant to make a link, than in the story . . .

The article was in the 18th Oct 08 issue of AP, on p2 of it's Informer section, headlined 'Ricoh bids to 'conquer' DSLRs'.

That headline itself was appeared to be a quote from Kazunobu Saiki, a general manager at Ricoh (it is not directly attributed to him in the story).

The article goes on,

'though Saiki remained tight lipped about will launch a Micro Four Thirds type camera system, he did say 'Ricoh wants to find a solution for ourselves'. He explained that Ricoh users demand a 'versatile' compact - non-bulky camera body that can be used in a variety of environments.

Ricoh tells us that it ploughing 'tremendous investment' into development of high end compacts.'

So there seems to be an interesting future for the GX range, but little chance of a DSLR. Sorry for any misrepresentation on my part.

A "

Source: Re: Ricoh working on a dSLR . .: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

elkarrde · 01-15-2009, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by whatever7

Most likely m4/3.

consider that, while original FourThirds standard is open standard, micro-FourThirds is NOT free.

er1kksen · 01-16-2009, 06:58 AM

I'd call 4/3 more likely than m4/3. Then again, I don't really think this DSLR from Ricoh is all that likely in the first place, especially given solar1's link...

Blue · 01-16-2009, 07:35 AM

Chinon used to be able t share Pentax lenses up through the m42, k and KA. Where things started sliding was when Chinon went AF. Chinon AF bodies could use K and KA lenses, but not AF lenses. This happend after the CP-7M which came out about the same time or a little before the CP-9af.

I have the CP-7m and actually picked it of on of the P3 series at the time. It is a good body. So both Ricoh and Chinon were good K mount platforms.

welshwizard645 · 01-16-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Blue

Chinon used to be able t share Pentax lenses up through the m42, k and KA. Where things started sliding was when Chinon went AF. Chinon AF bodies could use K and KA lenses, but not AF lenses. This happend after the CP-7M which came out about the same time or a little before the CP-9af.

I have the CP-7m and actually picked it of on of the P3 series at the time. It is a good body. So both Ricoh and Chinon were good K mount platforms.

I had a CP7m and it did not have any electrical contacts as far as I could remember...

Good little camera mind

01-15-2009, 05:21 AM	#1
Adrian Owerko Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 435	Ricoh working on a dSLR 2009 could it use a K Mount? Rumor or Not?: Ricoh working on a dSLR? CameraRumors.com is featuring a credible rumor that Ricoh might be working on a dSLR for 2009 and beyond. It will be interesting to ponder in which direction they could go as far as a mount. What are the possibilities for Ricoh? (this paragraph is pure speculation) create their own mount? (too much work/investment) use K-mount? (the closest thing to a "universal" mount) Four Thirds? (would open the uncongested 4/3rds market to their lenses and bodies) Micro Four Thirds? (they can make cute and adorable cameras inspired by the GRD/GX) Clone mounts for Canon, Nikon or Alpha? (the biggest market share mounts) Samsung Hybrid Traditional Rangefinder mount Last edited by Adrian Owerko; 01-15-2009 at 06:05 AM.

01-15-2009, 05:51 AM	#3
Adrian Owerko Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 435 Original Poster	Originally posted by ftpaddict They've had a history with the K-mount, and IMO I don't think any Pentaxian would mind a bit more choice. Ricoh GX200... A DA ltd would look nice on that! I also read in a forum that ricoh is looking at maybe fuji for sensors (: yes please Last edited by Adrian Owerko; 01-15-2009 at 06:00 AM.

01-15-2009, 11:53 AM	#11
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	DPR Post was mis-read. No Ricoh DSLR: If you had read through the entire post, you would have seen that the original poster mis-read the so called quoted article in Amateur Photographer... the AP article made no mention of any new DSLR's. snip: "My apologies for not posting sooner with more details . . . it's been a busy few days. And I may have mis-read the rather confusingly written article in AP, which gives the impression with its headline linking Ricoh and DSLRs, then hints at a 'secret project' and a 'fleet of extra staff' at Ricoh's R&D dept, and goes on to say that Ricoh wants 'to be the leader in high end compacts'. The DSLR reference peters out in the story, and on re-reading carefully, I think there is more in the headline, which is meant to make a link, than in the story . . . The article was in the 18th Oct 08 issue of AP, on p2 of it's Informer section, headlined 'Ricoh bids to 'conquer' DSLRs'. That headline itself was appeared to be a quote from Kazunobu Saiki, a general manager at Ricoh (it is not directly attributed to him in the story). The article goes on, 'though Saiki remained tight lipped about will launch a Micro Four Thirds type camera system, he did say 'Ricoh wants to find a solution for ourselves'. He explained that Ricoh users demand a 'versatile' compact - non-bulky camera body that can be used in a variety of environments. Ricoh tells us that it ploughing 'tremendous investment' into development of high end compacts.' So there seems to be an interesting future for the GX range, but little chance of a DSLR. Sorry for any misrepresentation on my part. A " Source: Re: Ricoh working on a dSLR . .: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Last edited by solar1; 01-16-2009 at 08:15 AM.

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01-15-2009, 05:34 AM	#2
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	They've had a history with the K-mount, and IMO I don't think any Pentaxian would mind a bit more choice.

01-15-2009, 05:54 AM	#4
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by Adrian Owerko yes please Pretty please! Maybe something with better AF... you know - something Pentax hates doing.

01-15-2009, 05:54 AM	#5
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by Adrian Owerko Ricoh GX200... A DA ltd would look nice on that! I also read in a forum that ricoh is looking at maybe fuji for sensors (: yes please While K mount was free to use, when it became KA, and then the various iteration of K-AF, it was protected, so Ricoh can't use it freely. If Ricoh is going the same route of the seventies, today it should use the 4/3 (or more probably micro 4/3).

01-15-2009, 05:58 AM	#6
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	For Leica M.

01-15-2009, 06:00 AM	#7
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Most likely m4/3.

01-15-2009, 08:16 AM	#8
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by whatever7 Most likely m4/3. Probably. But then, that wouldn't be a DSLR. Technically.

01-15-2009, 08:23 AM	#9
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by ftpaddict Pretty please! Maybe something with better AF... you know - something Pentax hates doing. Didn't Ricoh basically gave up SLRs because of autofocus? They tried their own program version of the K-mount, which probably didn't sell very well (and today jam some lenses on the Pentax DSLRs) and then they decided they couln't afford making their own autofocus mount...like so many other manufacturers (Chinon, Konica...)... so I think it is unlikely that they would have any better knowledge on AF than Pentax.

01-15-2009, 08:59 AM	#10
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Originally posted by Erik Probably. But then, that wouldn't be a DSLR. Technically. The thing is the economic will kill one or two more camera brands. And I would put Ricoh right in front of the candidate list, alone with Fuji. Olympus and Pentax are not far behind. Don't put too much into this rumor.

01-15-2009, 12:16 PM	#12
elkarrde Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 387	Originally posted by whatever7 Most likely m4/3. consider that, while original FourThirds standard is open standard, micro-FourThirds is NOT free.

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er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	I'd call 4/3 more likely than m4/3. Then again, I don't really think this DSLR from Ricoh is all that likely in the first place, especially given solar1's link...

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01-16-2009, 07:35 AM	#14
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Chinon used to be able t share Pentax lenses up through the m42, k and KA. Where things started sliding was when Chinon went AF. Chinon AF bodies could use K and KA lenses, but not AF lenses. This happend after the CP-7M which came out about the same time or a little before the CP-9af. I have the CP-7m and actually picked it of on of the P3 series at the time. It is a good body. So both Ricoh and Chinon were good K mount platforms.

01-16-2009, 08:24 AM	#15
welshwizard645 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Denbigh, Wales Posts: 62	Originally posted by Blue Chinon used to be able t share Pentax lenses up through the m42, k and KA. Where things started sliding was when Chinon went AF. Chinon AF bodies could use K and KA lenses, but not AF lenses. This happend after the CP-7M which came out about the same time or a little before the CP-9af. I have the CP-7m and actually picked it of on of the P3 series at the time. It is a good body. So both Ricoh and Chinon were good K mount platforms. I had a CP7m and it did not have any electrical contacts as far as I could remember... Good little camera mind