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01-29-2009, 10:04 AM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by Graydon Quote
Sure, and I've got no complaints about my K20D either despite what I am sure is rather fewer shots.

This is not a rational thing, is the problem. If you're looking at actual performance, for most applications and probable lifetimes (that "the electronics aren't likely to make six years" thing) the polycarbonate body is just plain better; lighter, stronger, costs less, doesn't transmit as much heat so it's not trying to suck the warmth out of your hands, etc.

Despite that, "explosively formed titanium/scandium alloy solid chassis" would sell cameras. If they can get "laser ablative machining" in there somewhere, even better. You'd think many people have a use case for their camera that involves clubbing bears.
Hey, I didn't carry Canon FTbs cause they're good in hand-to-hand combat, but when there's that *one time....*

I'm not an engineer, but I could still see them beefing up the structure in *some* way.

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All my stuff must be able to be used for self defense

You just never know...
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QuoteOriginally posted by NewRsoul Quote
I'd have to say that most of the magazines (who's reviews people read) wouldn't say it pro / pro-am without a mag alloy body.
Every pentax review i've seen in a while points to the stainless steel chassis as a good quality. It sounds good too, it's not the material, is just having a real structure under the plastic surface....not like the "high spec plastic" of the Rebels mount
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QuoteOriginally posted by ryan s Quote
All my stuff must be able to be used for self defense

You just never know...
Hee. Well, the incident I'm thinking of was in fact pretty random and surreal.

Not *quite* like clubbing bears, but similar in principle.

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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
I find the K10D and K20D bodies to be very solid. No problem for me what so ever.

Ben
Ben,

I fully agree, was just pointing out the way there normally received by the press, if Pentax want's it to be seen as more 'pro' than 'am' then a mag body would be a start, ala E3?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
In any event if they do a solid metal chassis, I'm sure it would be well-received. I admit the cutaways of the K20d made me expect this to be a rather lighter camera than it turned out to be. (I was pretty happy about this, I like some good heft.) Plenty sturdy enough for my purposes, anyway, but such a construction would be a comfort.

For me, personally, as long as it's sturdy enough to carry daily and not have to baby, it's quite adequate: I'm not exactly climbing mountains or leaning on the shutter at high speeds these days and I'm just not rough with my things, so I don't see longevity problems, unless I manage to get a whole lot more active.
Agreed too, I don't like all this talk of small, light camera's personally (and I mean me here) I like the weight and size of the K10, feels sort of right in the hand. I tried a K100 size body, but it didn't fit me. My K10 with a pancake is quite small/light though :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote

Ben
I read this as a little warm up.
When will you start using the red bold types?
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QuoteOriginally posted by NewRsoul Quote
Agreed too, I don't like all this talk of small, light camera's personally (and I mean me here) I like the weight and size of the K10, feels sort of right in the hand. I tried a K100 size body, but it didn't fit me. My K10 with a pancake is quite small/light though :-)
Really does, too. I don't own any pancakes, but I do favor primes of moderate focal length, ...I could even do with a little more ballast for anything bigger or longer, and here's me less-than-enthusiastic about adding the bulk of a battery grip. A little more heft to the camera itself would be OK by me.

In an age when people talk about competing SR systems, they seem to forget about things like design, a soft release, and good old inertial mass. I really like the K20's size when I'm feeling well. When my health problems mean some muscle weakness, extra weight actually helps, right up to the point a rig starts actually becoming a strain to hold. (It's easier to bear up against a bit of weight than it is to try and hold your hands up and still against movement in all directions)

I'm thinking that therefore I'll be adding a battery grip pretty soon, for that and a couple of other reasons.

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Oh, no...

QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
My crystal ball has a very "Solid" core...
Not this allegorical stuff again... I thought whats-her-name was totally discredited.

I heard Pentax is merging with Polaroid...

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Re Cameron's observation:

QuoteQuote:
I heard Pentax is merging with Polaroid...
….apparently Ben's crystal ball has just gone into terminal overload, because he's started lusting uncontrollably over the forthcoming full-frame multi mega-pixel Pentaroid….lol ! What's more I understand that it also has a full 1080p HD movie recording mode, just like C***n's latest 5D Mk 11…..incidentally on a serious note, what in God's name were they thinking of incorporating that particular feature in a FF pro body ??
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Re Cameron's observation:



….apparently Ben's crystal ball has just gone into terminal overload, because he's started lusting uncontrollably over the forthcoming full-frame multi mega-pixel Pentaroid…
Close, but Hoya decided to use their name instead of Pentax for this merger. The collaboration between Hoya Electronics Manufacturing and Polaroid yields the new:

Hemroid K30d - now with extra inflammation!
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.....and also a tube of soothing ointment for gentle relief.......aahhhh !
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