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jco · 01-24-2009, 07:50 PM

Curious if they can sit back and let Canon and Nikon only do FF.

Damn Brit · 01-25-2009, 12:20 AM

How would FF improve your photography, what will FF give you that your current sensor doesn't?

Welcome to the forum BTW.

Jasvox · 01-25-2009, 12:20 AM

...and Sony.

There are countless/pointless threads everywhere on this forum already, all just as irrelevant and the next. Take your pick!

Jason

blende8 · 01-25-2009, 02:45 AM

The latest official statement is that they have currently no plans and are not working on one.
But they are "carefully observing the market".

Bill Stickers · 01-25-2009, 04:11 AM

Screw FF I want medium format. FF haters complain that you lose DOF because you have to get closer to fill the frame with your subject. But can you imagine being able to get more into the frame with the same narrow DOF.

I randomly stumbled across this guys flickr stream and it has me seriously considering going over to film "Fly away eyes on Flickr" !
You just don't have that control with an APS-C. I'll settle for FF just because it's a step in the right direction and I wouldn't have to buy new lenses. But the second that a consumer priced(or at least not hasselblad professional priced) Medium Format, with all the modcons of digital(decent iso, ergonomic design, ect), system comes out I'll be first in line

Jasvox · 01-25-2009, 04:46 AM

hmm, looks like some PS layering to me.

Jason

Adnan EROL · 01-25-2009, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by blende8

The latest official statement is that they have currently no plans and are not working on one.
But they are "carefully observing the market".

If they were really "carefully observing the market", they would have seen that it's Pentax' turn now.
No other brothers left w/o a FF DSLR "except them" at the moment.

thibs · 01-25-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Adnan EROL

If they were really "carefully observing the market", they would have seen that it's Pentax' turn now.
No other brothers left w/o a FF DSLR "except them" at the moment.

What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ?

zntgrg · 01-25-2009, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Bill Stickers

Screw FF I want medium format. FF haters complain that you lose DOF because you have to get closer to fill the frame with your subject. But can you imagine being able to get more into the frame with the same narrow DOF.

I randomly stumbled across this guys flickr stream and it has me seriously considering going over to film "Fly away eyes on Flickr" !
You just don't have that control with an APS-C. I'll settle for FF just because it's a step in the right direction and I wouldn't have to buy new lenses. But the second that a consumer priced(or at least not hasselblad professional priced) Medium Format, with all the modcons of digital(decent iso, ergonomic design, ect), system comes out I'll be first in line

That's medium format...you won't have such DOF with FF too...anyway, AMAZING

Adnan EROL · 01-25-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by thibs

What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ?

You're right, I was seeing (want to see) Pentax among big brothers. But it's not really.
Now, after years, I can understand why almost everybody (and almost all of my friends) buy either canikon!

lol101 · 01-25-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by thibs

What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ?

Fuji is out of the DSLR business

, Oly and Pana are locked in their 4/3rd format but finally getting it to where it should have headed in the first place (ultra compact bodies nice to carry but not so nice to shoot with IMO) and Leica... has its x1.3 M8 and a full line of MF coming out... at Leica prices!!

Pentax is finishing building up a complete APS-C DSLR system "ala Pentax" (ie without high end models). They have never had those kind of cameras anyway so... why would they have them now?

I think they will stay there at least for another one good year, maybe more.

I don't think we will know if Pentax wants to go FF until Photokina 2010 and it makes sense since they are not able to build a sub-1500€ FF (nobody is...) and probably cannot sell any camera out of this price range.

But of course they have to stay afloat like everyone else.

I am interested to see what they will say and show at PMA; what is this "interesting" direction they want to go? Marketing gimmick to keep people interested or real clever ideas?

It's certainly not FF so what is it and will it be enough to keep the fans in and bring new ones?

ftpaddict · 01-25-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by lol101

It's certainly not FF so what is it and will it be enough to keep the fans in and bring new ones?

That would be the 60-250. Please? Pretty please?

vinzer · 01-25-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Adnan EROL

You're right, I was seeing (want to see) Pentax among big brothers. But it's not really.
Now, after years, I can understand why almost everybody (and almost all of my friends) buy either canikon!

Feeling left out? Insecure? I feel sorry for you if your photographic enjoyment is determined by the brand on the prism hump of your camera than actual photos.

lbam · 01-25-2009, 07:04 PM

Look to whether the new 55mm f1.4 and 60-250mm when released are full frame compatible for a possible indication... If they are not FF, it obviously still won't mean FF is not a possibility, just that the timetable might be longer..

Luciferase · 01-26-2009, 02:37 AM

If pentax brings out a FF. Then there will certainly be a format size war going, which will eventually lead to 70mm sensor or similar (a matter of time at consumer affordable price tags after R&D cost recovered, like the never affordable 24" HD LCD in the late 90's). Bigger lens with larger apecture will come out as brother are endlessly demanding for quality more than ever.

Because that is the trend.

01-24-2009, 07:50 PM	#1
jco Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Florida, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 39	Any new rumours about a Pentax FF DSLR yet? Curious if they can sit back and let Canon and Nikon only do FF.

01-25-2009, 04:11 AM	#5
Bill Stickers Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 32	fullframe smulframe Screw FF I want medium format. FF haters complain that you lose DOF because you have to get closer to fill the frame with your subject. But can you imagine being able to get more into the frame with the same narrow DOF. I randomly stumbled across this guys flickr stream and it has me seriously considering going over to film "Fly away eyes on Flickr" ! You just don't have that control with an APS-C. I'll settle for FF just because it's a step in the right direction and I wouldn't have to buy new lenses. But the second that a consumer priced(or at least not hasselblad professional priced) Medium Format, with all the modcons of digital(decent iso, ergonomic design, ect), system comes out I'll be first in line

01-25-2009, 10:12 AM	#7
Adnan EROL Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 120	carefully observing the market, really? Originally posted by blende8 The latest official statement is that they have currently no plans and are not working on one. But they are "carefully observing the market". If they were really "carefully observing the market", they would have seen that it's Pentax' turn now. No other brothers left w/o a FF DSLR "except them" at the moment.

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01-25-2009, 12:20 AM	#2
Damn Brit Guest	How would FF improve your photography, what will FF give you that your current sensor doesn't? Welcome to the forum BTW.

01-25-2009, 12:20 AM	#3
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	...and Sony. There are countless/pointless threads everywhere on this forum already, all just as irrelevant and the next. Take your pick! Jason

01-25-2009, 02:45 AM	#4
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	The latest official statement is that they have currently no plans and are not working on one. But they are "carefully observing the market".

01-25-2009, 04:46 AM	#6
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	hmm, looks like some PS layering to me. Jason

01-25-2009, 10:46 AM	#8
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Adnan EROL If they were really "carefully observing the market", they would have seen that it's Pentax' turn now. No other brothers left w/o a FF DSLR "except them" at the moment. What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ?

01-25-2009, 11:10 AM	#9
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by Bill Stickers Screw FF I want medium format. FF haters complain that you lose DOF because you have to get closer to fill the frame with your subject. But can you imagine being able to get more into the frame with the same narrow DOF. I randomly stumbled across this guys flickr stream and it has me seriously considering going over to film "Fly away eyes on Flickr" ! You just don't have that control with an APS-C. I'll settle for FF just because it's a step in the right direction and I wouldn't have to buy new lenses. But the second that a consumer priced(or at least not hasselblad professional priced) Medium Format, with all the modcons of digital(decent iso, ergonomic design, ect), system comes out I'll be first in line That's medium format...you won't have such DOF with FF too...anyway, AMAZING

01-25-2009, 12:49 PM	#10
Adnan EROL Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 120	Originally posted by thibs What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ? You're right, I was seeing (want to see) Pentax among big brothers. But it's not really. Now, after years, I can understand why almost everybody (and almost all of my friends) buy either canikon!

01-25-2009, 02:33 PM	#11
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by thibs What about Fuji, Oly, Pana and Leica then ? Fuji is out of the DSLR business , Oly and Pana are locked in their 4/3rd format but finally getting it to where it should have headed in the first place (ultra compact bodies nice to carry but not so nice to shoot with IMO) and Leica... has its x1.3 M8 and a full line of MF coming out... at Leica prices!! Pentax is finishing building up a complete APS-C DSLR system "ala Pentax" (ie without high end models). They have never had those kind of cameras anyway so... why would they have them now? I think they will stay there at least for another one good year, maybe more. I don't think we will know if Pentax wants to go FF until Photokina 2010 and it makes sense since they are not able to build a sub-1500€ FF (nobody is...) and probably cannot sell any camera out of this price range. But of course they have to stay afloat like everyone else. I am interested to see what they will say and show at PMA; what is this "interesting" direction they want to go? Marketing gimmick to keep people interested or real clever ideas? It's certainly not FF so what is it and will it be enough to keep the fans in and bring new ones?

01-25-2009, 02:39 PM	#12
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by lol101 It's certainly not FF so what is it and will it be enough to keep the fans in and bring new ones? That would be the 60-250. Please? Pretty please?

01-25-2009, 06:09 PM	#13
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by Adnan EROL You're right, I was seeing (want to see) Pentax among big brothers. But it's not really. Now, after years, I can understand why almost everybody (and almost all of my friends) buy either canikon! Feeling left out? Insecure? I feel sorry for you if your photographic enjoyment is determined by the brand on the prism hump of your camera than actual photos.

01-25-2009, 07:04 PM	#14
lbam Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 442	Look to whether the new 55mm f1.4 and 60-250mm when released are full frame compatible for a possible indication... If they are not FF, it obviously still won't mean FF is not a possibility, just that the timetable might be longer..

01-26-2009, 02:37 AM	#15
Luciferase Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 86	If pentax brings out a FF. Then there will certainly be a format size war going, which will eventually lead to 70mm sensor or similar (a matter of time at consumer affordable price tags after R&D cost recovered, like the never affordable 24" HD LCD in the late 90's). Bigger lens with larger apecture will come out as brother are endlessly demanding for quality more than ever. Because that is the trend.

Any new rumours about a Pentax FF DSLR yet?

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