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creampuff · 02-02-2009, 05:09 PM

Since the images were processed in CS3 and downsampled, one won't really know what adjustments were made. It is easy enough to correct lens distortion or punch up colour and contrast and sharpening. Best to test the image quality with a retail copy in person when it is on sale.

Blue · 02-02-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by flyer

Do you think Ned had a custom mount to put it on his Leica?

No, but he used his Leica to take pics of his "new" transparent PZ1. NED BUNNELL

Ned in the middle:

m8o · 02-02-2009, 09:20 PM

...geez, more f/4 lens...:ugh:

**Sailor** · 02-02-2009, 09:36 PM

I'm sorry to see this thread. Just this evening at dinner, I told my wife that I couldn't think of another lens I want*. Now I may have to find a slick way to recant that statement or hope her sterling memory undergoes an uncharacteristic lapse.

Jer

*Other than an irrational, sporadic (although intense) desire for an FA 43; I already have an FA 50/1.4, FA 35/2 and DA 40.

mattdm · 02-02-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Sailor

I'm sorry to see this thread. Just this evening at dinner, I told my wife that I couldn't think of another lens I want*. Now I may have to find a slick way to recant that statement or hope her sterling memory undergoes an uncharacteristic lapse.

No problem — you cleverly said you couldn't think of one. I'm sure your wife knows that you are always forgetting to think of things which she knows you really ought to remember.

ogl · 02-03-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by fejker

Blue: That's a different lens. We're talking about the 15mm ltd. here.

PS: The pics look sharp to me. I'd like to see some 100% crops at f/11 and f/16 tho.

f11 and f16 are diffraction for APS-C sensor.
it's not ZOOM.

whatever7 · 02-03-2009, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by flyer

Do you think Ned had a custom mount to put it on his Leica?

I know you were being sacarsitic, But it's taken by a k20d, and I highly doubt DA15mm is full frame.

zntgrg · 02-03-2009, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by m8o

...geez, more f/4 lens...:ugh:

That's why SR exists. Then a 15/1.4 with FF coverage would be bigger and heavier of a K20 and would cost more than a car, so it's a nice compromise here.

Then... this is raw hyperfocal unleashed

fejker · 02-03-2009, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by ogl

f11 and f16 are diffraction for APS-C sensor.
it's not ZOOM.

I take most of my landscape shots at those apertures with the K10D and the diffraction effect is not that evident. At least with the 12-24mm f/4, 35mm f/2.8 macro ltd., 100mm f/2.8 macro and 50-135mm f/2.8. I don't know how big you print your shots but mine look good at 50cm.

ogl · 02-03-2009, 02:39 AM

Strange. I don't understand.

thibs · 02-03-2009, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Since the images were processed in CS3 and downsampled, one won't really know what adjustments were made. It is easy enough to correct lens distortion or punch up colour and contrast and sharpening. Best to test the image quality with a retail copy in person when it is on sale.

Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments).

creampuff · 02-03-2009, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments).

Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry.
Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3.

thibs · 02-03-2009, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry.
Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3.

And? Should he open those RAWs with his teeth maybe?

ewalk · 02-03-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry.
Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3.

Originally posted by thibs

Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments).

Does it seriously matter? Most of those shots were typical-day-out with the family sort of shots, not pictures to measurebate/pixelpeep over.

I'm just happy it's being released and that it looks to be pretty well controlled in terms of distortion!

**Sailor** · 02-03-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by mattdm

No problem — you cleverly said you couldn't think of one. I'm sure your wife knows that you are always forgetting to think of things which she knows you really ought to remember.

That's good. Really, I think I can work with that.

Thanks,

Jer

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02-02-2009, 05:09 PM	#16
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Since the images were processed in CS3 and downsampled, one won't really know what adjustments were made. It is easy enough to correct lens distortion or punch up colour and contrast and sharpening. Best to test the image quality with a retail copy in person when it is on sale.

02-02-2009, 05:44 PM	#17
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by flyer Do you think Ned had a custom mount to put it on his Leica? No, but he used his Leica to take pics of his "new" transparent PZ1. NED BUNNELL Ned in the middle:

02-02-2009, 09:20 PM	#18
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	...geez, more f/4 lens...:ugh:

02-02-2009, 09:36 PM	#19
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,203	I'm sorry to see this thread. Just this evening at dinner, I told my wife that I couldn't think of another lens I want. Now I may have to find a slick way to recant that statement or hope her sterling memory undergoes an uncharacteristic lapse. Jer Other than an irrational, sporadic (although intense) desire for an FA 43; I already have an FA 50/1.4, FA 35/2 and DA 40.

02-02-2009, 09:49 PM	#20
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Sailor I'm sorry to see this thread. Just this evening at dinner, I told my wife that I couldn't think of another lens I want. Now I may have to find a slick way to recant that statement or hope her sterling memory undergoes an uncharacteristic lapse. No problem — you cleverly said you couldn't think of one. I'm sure your wife knows that you are always* forgetting to think of things which she knows you really ought to remember.

02-03-2009, 12:03 AM	#21
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by fejker Blue: That's a different lens. We're talking about the 15mm ltd. here. PS: The pics look sharp to me. I'd like to see some 100% crops at f/11 and f/16 tho. f11 and f16 are diffraction for APS-C sensor. it's not ZOOM.

02-03-2009, 12:12 AM	#22
whatever7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 278	Originally posted by flyer Do you think Ned had a custom mount to put it on his Leica? I know you were being sacarsitic, But it's taken by a k20d, and I highly doubt DA15mm is full frame.

02-03-2009, 12:30 AM	#23
zntgrg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Verona, Italy Posts: 202	Originally posted by m8o ...geez, more f/4 lens...:ugh: That's why SR exists. Then a 15/1.4 with FF coverage would be bigger and heavier of a K20 and would cost more than a car, so it's a nice compromise here. Then... this is raw hyperfocal unleashed

02-03-2009, 12:32 AM	#24
fejker Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Originally posted by ogl f11 and f16 are diffraction for APS-C sensor. it's not ZOOM. I take most of my landscape shots at those apertures with the K10D and the diffraction effect is not that evident. At least with the 12-24mm f/4, 35mm f/2.8 macro ltd., 100mm f/2.8 macro and 50-135mm f/2.8. I don't know how big you print your shots but mine look good at 50cm.

02-03-2009, 02:39 AM	#25
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Strange. I don't understand.

02-03-2009, 03:19 AM	#26
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by creampuff Since the images were processed in CS3 and downsampled, one won't really know what adjustments were made. It is easy enough to correct lens distortion or punch up colour and contrast and sharpening. Best to test the image quality with a retail copy in person when it is on sale. Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments).

02-03-2009, 06:00 AM	#27
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by thibs Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments). Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry. Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3.

02-03-2009, 09:14 AM	#28
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by creampuff Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry. Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3. And? Should he open those RAWs with his teeth maybe?

02-03-2009, 09:20 AM	#29
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by creampuff Don't second guess about what you think he does or doesn't do adjustment wise. CS3 is mentioned in the last para of his blog entry. Photos shot in RAW and processed in CS3. Originally posted by thibs Mmm I think Ned did't specify it this time but usually when he posts lenses samples, he clearly writes that NO adjustments have been made except Raw conversion (no contrast & co adjustments). Does it seriously matter? Most of those shots were typical-day-out with the family sort of shots, not pictures to measurebate/pixelpeep over. I'm just happy it's being released and that it looks to be pretty well controlled in terms of distortion!

02-03-2009, 05:15 PM	#30
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,203	Originally posted by mattdm No problem — you cleverly said you couldn't think of one. I'm sure your wife knows that you are always forgetting to think of things which she knows you really ought to remember. That's good. Really, I think I can work with that. Thanks, Jer

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