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ewalk · 02-18-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

I'm not really shocked, anyway, wasn't the K200d based around the extra K10d sensors from before the Samsung affiliation, in the first place?

Presuming that affiliation is to be ongoing, I wouldn't think there's a surprise they would be about to change em.

Doesn't the k-m still use that same Sony-sourced CCD though?

jezza323 · 02-18-2009, 03:33 PM

i bought my K200D + 18-55 from JB Hifi in Bris, was on a special (was the only JB store with it at that price in fact) which made it way cheaper than anywhere else.

**rparmar** · 02-18-2009, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by ewalk

Doesn't the k-m still use that same Sony-sourced CCD though?

It's the same sensor as the K200D. Improved AF and burst rates plus auto-mode selection, improved menu, help button and extended ISO. On the downside: one wheel, no weather-sealing, non-selectable AF points (except centre) and no top LCD. Hard decision, but it's more a sideways choice than an upgrade choice IMO.

I have full details on this camera in Your First DSLR: The Pentax K-m.

RaduA · 02-18-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

It's the same sensor as the K200D. Improved AF and burst rates plus auto-mode selection, improved menu, help button and extended ISO. On the downside: one wheel, no weather-sealing, non-selectable AF points (except centre) and no top LCD. Hard decision, but it's more a sideways choice than an upgrade choice IMO.

I have full details on this camera in Your First DSLR: The Pentax K-m.

Of course, the K200D has also one wheel.

Radu

montecarlo · 02-19-2009, 01:42 AM

K200D is not an entry level camera (it's more a Canon 450D competitor but cheaper and with more features

at least from my puoit of view). K2000/K-m is , although it is a little less equipped than Sony A200 but better than Nikon D60.
Personally I like better the K200D than the K2000/K-m. I like even more my K100D than the Pentax's entry level camera having more features (top LCD, selectable 11 AF points, DOF preview - and all these are important for me). Size is almost the same especially because the K-m has also a grip like the othet Pentax cameras, not being used the Oly E-400/410/420 shape for the camera body or a digital version of the latest Pentax film camera, the *ist (without D).
So, I hope if K200D goes out of production the replacement will carry all its features (weather sealed body, DOF preview, top lcd, at least 11 AF point, and selectable with at least 9 cross type, available vertical grip, AA /R6 batteries... etc.) and ads more

(maybe the CMOS sensor from K20D, PC sync, etc. ... or LV for who cares about it)

RMabo · 02-19-2009, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

Actually, I have no idea why the K200D exists in the product line. It doesn't seem to have much to differentiate it. Why not simply buy the K20D?
If the K200D was replaced by something newer and better, the product line would make even less sense!

Until, of course, the introduction of the newer and better replacement for the K20D.

nakey · 02-19-2009, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

Actually, I have no idea why the K200D exists in the product line. It doesn't seem to have much to differentiate it. Why not simply buy the K20D?

and we're all made of money...

i paid less than half for my K200D body in July (600), than it costs to get a K20D now (1227 @ DCW)

90% for less than 50%. i think that's a good choice, don't you?

montecarlo · 02-19-2009, 07:19 AM

Here (Romania) the price of the K200D represents about ~65% of the price of the K20D so it's good for one with less money or who wants to buy for the difference an extra lens. The K-m has about ~75% of the price of K200D . It would result that it's more wise, from my point of view of course, to buy the K200D than the K-m (more features for less money).

vk4akp · 02-19-2009, 07:31 AM

Hi Guys, Well I'm a new owner and totally new to DSLR as of 2 days ago. I've only ever owned one other camera in my life and that was a Canon powershot 430 that I got about 2 year ago.

I bought from JB, I shopped around. Left my run a bit late and only just got one. I had to settle for one from the glass cabnet also. But I knew it had only been in there a few days as we saw the last box'ed one go out recently. So hopefully it hadn't been F'd with too much before I got it! hehe.

I got it for $615 with a new sealed in the box SMC Pentax DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL II Lens.

So far I'm really impressed with it but I've got a lot to learn. (I have taken many black pictures. hehe). I really wasn't ready to buy, but I was so disappointed with the K-M that I decided to grab the K200D while I could, and I'm glad I did.

The 18-55mm lens for me doesn't have enough zoom. So I'm now on the look out for a new SMC Pentax DA 50-200mm F4-5.8 ED Lens. If anyone can help with some good deals please let me know. I'm Ipswich / Brisbane .AU area.

Best price I have seen so far is $246.50 + $19.95 postage. But if I could buy one local for say $300 or better I'd rather support local business. (Except Ted's they have been a waste of time so far).

Anyhow, Google tells me that there is in fact a K300D coming out, and that there are even some leaked information on features. So hopefully this is a good sign.
Perhaps by the time they are discounting those I'll be ready to buy again. hehe.

.-.-.

cyg · 02-19-2009, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by vk4akp

Anyhow, Google tells me that there is in fact a K300D coming out, and that there are even some leaked information on features.

By all mean, tell us where you found this information!

And congratulations on the new k200d. Must be quite a step up from the powershot.

Mister Guy · 02-19-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by cyg

By all mean, tell us where you found this information!

And congratulations on the new k200d. Must be quite a step up from the powershot.

Not sure where he is finding information on the k300d that has any kind of reliability, but a VERY reliable site has a list of features in the k30d.

vk4akp · 02-19-2009, 09:45 AM

No, nothing reliable. Just when I was googling stuff different links came up with some info. I barely browsed it. 14 mega pixels and other stuff.

Anyhow, yep I'm really wrapped in the K200D, please let me know if anyone can help out with a place to buy the second lens from.

.-.-.

cyg · 02-19-2009, 12:44 PM

Not sure how much that helps from down under, but it's available for 146$ (Canadian) from The Camera Store.

Products: Lenses, Pentax | TheCameraStore.com

jezza323 · 02-19-2009, 02:03 PM

its not really close to you, given you are in ipswich, but ive found photo continental at mt gravatt to have pricing better than most online only stores (seriously)

so give them a go!

vk4akp · 02-19-2009, 02:17 PM

Thanks, Yes, actually I was going to go for a drive to there tonight (They are open late on Fridays). I did email them but they haven't replied as of yet. The others have. I tried to ring them for Thursday night shopping and was prepared to drive there last night if they gave me a decent price. They have elected not to answer their phone for late night shopping. This is a shame as the distance really requires confirmation before the travel.

Anyhow, Ted's is a waste of time and so that only really leaves Photo Continental in the area.

I'll try again this arvo. And hopefully get to do a trip in and pick up.

Otherwise I give up and will just order via EBay and get direct from Hong Kong.

But Thanks for the info.

.-.-.

02-19-2009, 07:31 AM	#24
vk4akp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ipswich / Qld / Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	K200D New owner. Hi Guys, Well I'm a new owner and totally new to DSLR as of 2 days ago. I've only ever owned one other camera in my life and that was a Canon powershot 430 that I got about 2 year ago. I bought from JB, I shopped around. Left my run a bit late and only just got one. I had to settle for one from the glass cabnet also. But I knew it had only been in there a few days as we saw the last box'ed one go out recently. So hopefully it hadn't been F'd with too much before I got it! hehe. I got it for $615 with a new sealed in the box SMC Pentax DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL II Lens. So far I'm really impressed with it but I've got a lot to learn. (I have taken many black pictures. hehe). I really wasn't ready to buy, but I was so disappointed with the K-M that I decided to grab the K200D while I could, and I'm glad I did. The 18-55mm lens for me doesn't have enough zoom. So I'm now on the look out for a new SMC Pentax DA 50-200mm F4-5.8 ED Lens. If anyone can help with some good deals please let me know. I'm Ipswich / Brisbane .AU area. Best price I have seen so far is $246.50 + $19.95 postage. But if I could buy one local for say $300 or better I'd rather support local business. (Except Ted's they have been a waste of time so far). Anyhow, Google tells me that there is in fact a K300D coming out, and that there are even some leaked information on features. So hopefully this is a good sign. Perhaps by the time they are discounting those I'll be ready to buy again. hehe. .-.-.

02-19-2009, 09:45 AM	#27
vk4akp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ipswich / Qld / Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	Re: K300d No, nothing reliable. Just when I was googling stuff different links came up with some info. I barely browsed it. 14 mega pixels and other stuff. Anyhow, yep I'm really wrapped in the K200D, please let me know if anyone can help out with a place to buy the second lens from. .-.-.

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02-18-2009, 03:25 PM	#16
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady I'm not really shocked, anyway, wasn't the K200d based around the extra K10d sensors from before the Samsung affiliation, in the first place? Presuming that affiliation is to be ongoing, I wouldn't think there's a surprise they would be about to change em. Doesn't the k-m still use that same Sony-sourced CCD though?

02-18-2009, 03:33 PM	#17
jezza323 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,421	i bought my K200D + 18-55 from JB Hifi in Bris, was on a special (was the only JB store with it at that price in fact) which made it way cheaper than anywhere else.

02-18-2009, 03:48 PM	#18
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,824	Originally posted by ewalk Doesn't the k-m still use that same Sony-sourced CCD though? It's the same sensor as the K200D. Improved AF and burst rates plus auto-mode selection, improved menu, help button and extended ISO. On the downside: one wheel, no weather-sealing, non-selectable AF points (except centre) and no top LCD. Hard decision, but it's more a sideways choice than an upgrade choice IMO. I have full details on this camera in Your First DSLR: The Pentax K-m.

02-18-2009, 05:19 PM	#19
RaduA Guest	Originally posted by rparmar It's the same sensor as the K200D. Improved AF and burst rates plus auto-mode selection, improved menu, help button and extended ISO. On the downside: one wheel, no weather-sealing, non-selectable AF points (except centre) and no top LCD. Hard decision, but it's more a sideways choice than an upgrade choice IMO. I have full details on this camera in Your First DSLR: The Pentax K-m. Of course, the K200D has also one wheel. Radu

02-19-2009, 01:42 AM	#20
montecarlo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 161	K200D is not an entry level camera (it's more a Canon 450D competitor but cheaper and with more features at least from my puoit of view). K2000/K-m is , although it is a little less equipped than Sony A200 but better than Nikon D60. Personally I like better the K200D than the K2000/K-m. I like even more my K100D than the Pentax's entry level camera having more features (top LCD, selectable 11 AF points, DOF preview - and all these are important for me). Size is almost the same especially because the K-m has also a grip like the othet Pentax cameras, not being used the Oly E-400/410/420 shape for the camera body or a digital version of the latest Pentax film camera, the *ist (without D). So, I hope if K200D goes out of production the replacement will carry all its features (weather sealed body, DOF preview, top lcd, at least 11 AF point, and selectable with at least 9 cross type, available vertical grip, AA /R6 batteries... etc.) and ads more (maybe the CMOS sensor from K20D, PC sync, etc. ... or LV for who cares about it)

02-19-2009, 03:53 AM	#21
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by rparmar Actually, I have no idea why the K200D exists in the product line. It doesn't seem to have much to differentiate it. Why not simply buy the K20D? If the K200D was replaced by something newer and better, the product line would make even less sense! Until, of course, the introduction of the newer and better replacement for the K20D.

02-19-2009, 07:04 AM	#22
nakey Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 208	Originally posted by rparmar Actually, I have no idea why the K200D exists in the product line. It doesn't seem to have much to differentiate it. Why not simply buy the K20D? and we're all made of money... i paid less than half for my K200D body in July (600), than it costs to get a K20D now (1227 @ DCW) 90% for less than 50%. i think that's a good choice, don't you?

02-19-2009, 07:19 AM	#23
montecarlo Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 161	Here (Romania) the price of the K200D represents about ~65% of the price of the K20D so it's good for one with less money or who wants to buy for the difference an extra lens. The K-m has about ~75% of the price of K200D . It would result that it's more wise, from my point of view of course, to buy the K200D than the K-m (more features for less money).

02-19-2009, 08:22 AM	#25
cyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 134	Originally posted by vk4akp Anyhow, Google tells me that there is in fact a K300D coming out, and that there are even some leaked information on features. By all mean, tell us where you found this information! And congratulations on the new k200d. Must be quite a step up from the powershot.

02-19-2009, 08:37 AM	#26
Mister Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 244	Originally posted by cyg By all mean, tell us where you found this information! And congratulations on the new k200d. Must be quite a step up from the powershot. Not sure where he is finding information on the k300d that has any kind of reliability, but a VERY reliable site has a list of features in the k30d.

02-19-2009, 12:44 PM	#28
cyg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 134	Not sure how much that helps from down under, but it's available for 146$ (Canadian) from The Camera Store. Products: Lenses, Pentax \| TheCameraStore.com

02-19-2009, 02:03 PM	#29
jezza323 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,421	its not really close to you, given you are in ipswich, but ive found photo continental at mt gravatt to have pricing better than most online only stores (seriously) so give them a go!

02-19-2009, 02:17 PM	#30
vk4akp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ipswich / Qld / Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	Thanks, Yes, actually I was going to go for a drive to there tonight (They are open late on Fridays). I did email them but they haven't replied as of yet. The others have. I tried to ring them for Thursday night shopping and was prepared to drive there last night if they gave me a decent price. They have elected not to answer their phone for late night shopping. This is a shame as the distance really requires confirmation before the travel. Anyhow, Ted's is a waste of time and so that only really leaves Photo Continental in the area. I'll try again this arvo. And hopefully get to do a trip in and pick up. Otherwise I give up and will just order via EBay and get direct from Hong Kong. But Thanks for the info. .-.-.

k200d "sold out...end of line"

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