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03-02-2009, 04:06 AM   #61

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OK, sorry about that then - I'll re-direct my post to StephenG
Sarcasm is difficult to detect (using smilies could give us a hint) - but it seems I was the one jumping to conclusions

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PMA hasn't even started, with zero knowledge of what Pentax will announce, and the whines are already here. Is this a new record?

QuoteOriginally posted by StephenG Quote
i would say that that statement right there is the reason that this new pentax makes no sense... why try compete, from behind, in a segment that already has 7 competitors...

but i guess this shows Pentax stratergy........ they gonna focus on the new photographers with p&s and entry level DSLR's only....

i suppose they will wait for this new lot of people they hook into the system to graduate first before going with a FF.. leaving those of us who are ready to graduate with no option but to cross over.....

oh well Pentax - its been fun.. I am sure my wife will like my K10d...

now.... where are those Canon forums again..??
Yes, please leave if you feel the need. If there's any chance your wife won't like the K10D, please also put your soon to be unused lenses in the marketplace, to help finance your Canon purchase. Thanks!

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It is okay if you treat it as an advanced P&S. And it might be handy if the features and specs are strong enough, e.g. 1080 hd video in H.264 format and with standard hdmi output etc.
I'm specifically looking for weather-sealing, since that was what Hoya was alluding to in some of their statements. That, and sensor size. We'll see.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
OK, sorry about that then - I'll re-direct my post to StephenG
Sarcasm is difficult to detect (using smilies could give us a hint) - but it seems I was the one jumping to conclusions
well, I wasn't even sure whether you misunderstood me or just chimed in to my sarcasm I've tagged it now, just to be sure.
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Game over - this is it.

??24????????????????????????PENTAX X70??????????? ??????PENTAX

03-02-2009, 05:28 AM   #65
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Yes, please leave if you feel the need. If there's any chance your wife won't like the K10D, please also put your soon to be unused lenses in the marketplace, to help finance your Canon purchase. Thanks!
dont need to sell the pentax gear, have enough funds to spend and sure the wife will like it until she too out grows it..

and its not a case of feeling the need to leave,, its a case of having no option but to leave..
one cant spend your entire photographic career playing in the kiddy pool...
and if pentax is not going to give us an adult pool of your own to swim in, then we need to cross the street...

sad, but true.
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Started a new thread now this is no longer a rumour.
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omg, that page is deleted..

26~624mm x24 zoom lens
SR, 3stop
11frame/sec(5M fixed), max 21frame + AF tracking
1280×720px movie
32person, 0.03sec face detection, smile catch, blink detection
2.7inch 23million px LCD
1cm macro
33.6MB inner memory

1/2.33 sensor
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That'll be interesting to see on a small sensor...

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I guess Hoyas take over of Pentax has been a bigger range of cameras. It can be good for Pentax with a bigger range of camera types, and if Samsung also gone to sale X70, they can sale a lot of that X70.
Samsung sad something of reconstruct cameras for video or other new thing, so i think we going to wait a little more for the new Pentax K30/300.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote

I really hope you doomsayers will be proven utterly wrong tomorrow.
and if we are not proven wrong???

if you wake up tomorrow and all pentax have done is release more kiddy camera's?? then what??

its got nothing to do with being proven wrong or right - there is no point being made...

its all about wanting to grow with a DSLR system.... but if that 'system' stops halfway, and goes no further. then logically those looking to grow need to look at other systems..

if pentax does not offer a FF / pro model camera now, they can happily go on offering more and more kiddy camera's.. doens't mean they will go bust or disappear from the market.. its just means those serious about taking their photography all the way to pro, in the current circumstances, wont chose Pentax..
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Check out this link.

also look at my check it out thread.


Just looked myself and the data has now gone.

But the X70 is a bridge camera.

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the link is removed - if you still seeing the link its cause its cached on your PC already.
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Versatile optical 24X zoom lens to accommodate a range of subjects
Within its compact, lightweight body, the X70 features a high-magnification optical 24-times zoom lens offering a focal-length coverage between 26mm wide angle to 624mm super telephoto (in the 35mm format). Coupled with the Intelligent Zoom function, the X70’s zoom range can be extended to approximately 150 times (for a focal length of an astonishing approximately 3900mm in the 35mm format) without compromising the optical performance of the zoom lens.

Reliable shake-reduction system for sharp, blur-free images
The X70 incorporates image-sensor-shift-type SR (Shake Reduction) system to assure sharply focused, blur-free images even under demanding photographic conditions prone to camera shake, such as when using a telephoto lens or when shooting a sunset or indoor scene using only incident light. By accurately detecting the amount of camera shake using a high-performance gyro sensor and shifting the CCD image sensor vertically and horizontally at high speed, the X70 offers an outstanding camera-shake compensation effect, equivalent to approximately three shutter steps.

High-speed continuous shooting to capture the decisive moment
The X70 lets the photographer capture the subject continuously at a maximum speed of approximately 11 images per second, and up to 21 images in succession.* Coupled with the Auto-Tracking AF mode that keeps a fast-moving subject in focus all the time, the X70 captures once-in-a-lifetime, decisive moments in sharp focus, even when the subject is an active child or unpredictable pet.

* When the continuous-shooting mode is selected, the image size is fixed at 5M (2592 x 1944 pixels).

High image quality
Thanks to the combination of approximately 12.0 megapixels, a high-performance imaging engine, and the high-quality PENTAX zoom lens, the X70 delivers super-clear, high-quality images. It even allows the photographer to choose the preferred finishing touch — Bright, Natural or Monochrome.

Movie shooting in high-definition TV image quality and with anti-shake protection
The X70 captures high-quality movie clips, equivalent in image quality to that of high-definition TV (1280 x 720 pixels). It also features the Movie SR mode,*** which effectively minimizes annoying camera shake during movie shooting through the use of exclusive software. As a result, the photographer enjoys high-quality, blur-free movie shooting with minimal effort.

** When the Movie SR mode is selected, the angle of view becomes narrower than normal shooting.

Multi-mode exposure system to accommodate different applications
The X70 offers a choice of four exposure modes: Programmed AE, in which the camera automatically selects the optimal combination of aperture and shutter speed for a given subject; and Aperture-Priority AE, Shutter-Priority AE and Metered Manual modes, in which photographers are free to select either or both aperture and shutter speed to express their creative intentions and personal touches.

Auto Picture mode for the automatic selection of seven different shooting modes
The X70 features the advanced Auto Picture mode, which automatically selects the most appropriate shooting mode for a given subject or scene by detecting the subject’s lighting and other conditions. This user-friendly mode not only makes the right mode choice for the photographer (from Landscape, Portrait, Night Scene, Night Scene Portrait, Flower, Sport and Standard modes), but also features an auto macro mode, which automatically switches the camera’s focus range to macro in close-range applications.

Super-fast Face Recognition AF&AE function to capture up to 32 faces in focus in approx. 0.03 seconds
The X70’s Face Recognition AF&AE function comes extremely handy for taking casual snapshots of people. It optimizes the focusing and exposure status of the subject — up to 32 faces in a single image — in approximately 0.03 seconds. The X70 also offers other user-friendly functions: a Smile Capture function that automatically releases the shutter the instant it detects the subject’s smile; and a Blinking Detection function that warns the photographer when the subject’s eyes close at the time of shutter release.

Auto sensitivity control, up to a super-high ISO 6400
The X70 comes equipped with an auto sensitivity control function, which automatically shifts the sensitivity level in relation to the subject’s lighting condition and the lens focal-length setting. This allows the photographer to use a high shutter speed in dimly lit locations, such as night scenes or indoor sports events, to effectively minimize camera shake and subject shake. The auto sensitivity control range can be set randomly between ISO 50 and super-high ISO 6400.

Large, easy-to-view 2.7-inch color LCD monitor
Despite its compact dimensions, the X70 features a large 2.7-inch high-brightness color LCD monitor with approximately 230,000 dots. Thanks to the AR (Anti-Reflection) coating, sunlight reflections are held to a minimum for comfortable outdoor viewing. The X70 also comes with an electronic viewfinder, which comes handy when shooting against intense backlight or when the photographer needs firmer grip of the camera.

Other features
1. Choice of image format, from proportions of 4:3, 3:2, 16:9 or 1:1
2. Shooting mode palette for easy selection of the most appropriate shooting mode from 20 different shooting modes, including a new Baby mode programmed to capture the healthy, lively face of a baby
3. Overexposure compensation function to prevent white-washed highlight areas
4. 1cm Macro mode can be used as close as one centimeter away from a subject for stunning close-up shots
5. Digital Wide function to composite one extra-wide-angle image (equivalent to an image taken with an approx. 20mm lens in 35mm format) from two images
6. World-time clock to display standard time in 75 cities in 28 time zones around the world, for an extra convenience on the road
7. Frame Composite function (with 90 frames stored in the camera) to shoot or compose images with decorative photo frames
8. Approx. 33.6MB built-in memory
9. Red-eye reduction function to correct annoying red eyes in recorded images during playback

Number of Effective pixels approx. 12 megapixels
Image Sensor 1/2.33" CCD
Number of Recorded pixels Still 12M, 3:2, 16:9, 1:1, 7M, 5M, 3M, 1024, 640
Movie 1280, 848, 640, 320
Sensitivity (Standard Output Sensitivity) Auto, Fixed (ISO 50 - 6400)
Motion Blur Reduction Still CCD-Shift-Type (SR : Shake Reduction)
Hi-sensitivity anti-shake mode (Digital SR)
Movie Movie shake reduction mode (Movie SR)
Face recognition Face recognition AF&AE is available at all mode. 32 people at most.
Smile Capture. Blinking Detection.
Storage Media Built-in Memory (approx. 33.6MB), SD/SDHC Memory Card
White Balance Auto, Daylight, Shade, Tungsten light, Fluorescent light (W, D, N), Manual setting
Lens PENTAX zoom lens, 14 elements in 11 groups (4 aspherical elements, 3 ED elements)
Focal Length 4.6 - 110.4mm (approx. 26 - 624mm in 35mm format)
Aperture F2.8 (W) - F5.0 (T)
Zoom Optiocal Zoom 24X
Digital Zoom approx. 6.25X
Intelligent Zoom approx. 31.3X at 7M, approx. 150X at 640 (including optical zoom)
Display 2.7"LCD , approx. 230K dots, AR coating
Viewfinder Electronic Viewfinder, approx. 200K dots
Focus Type 9-point AF, Spot AF, Auto tracking AF
Focus Range
(From lense face) Standard: 0.4m - Infinity (at wide setting), 1.7m - Infinity (at tele setting), 1.31 ft. - Infinity (at wide setting), 5.6 ft. - Infinity (at tele setting)
Macro: 0.1 - 0.5m (middle zoom position), 0.33 - 1.64 ft. (middle zoom position)
1cm Macro: 0.01 - 0.3m (middle zoom position), 0.03 - 0.98 ft. (middle zoom position)
Infinity-landscape, Manual Focus, AF Point switching: available
Exposure Control Metering System Multi-segment metering, Center-weighted metering, Spot metering
Exposure Compensation ±2EV (1/3EV steps)
Scene mode Auto Picture, Sport, Digital SR, Movie, USER, Manual, Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, Program, SCN(Landscape, Flower, Portrait, Backlight, Half-length Portrait, Night Scene, Night Scene Portrait, Stage Lighting, Surf & Snow, Baby, Kids, Pet, Food, Fireworks, Frame Composite, Party, Museum, Sunset, Digital Wide, Digital Panorama), Green
Playback modes Slideshow, Digital Filter(Color Filter(11 kinds), Soft Filter, Fisheye Filter, Brightness Filter), Frame Composite, Resize, Cropping, Image/Sound Copy, Image Rotation, Movie Edit, Red-eye Compensation, Voice Memo, Protect, DPOF, Image Recovery, Start-up Screen, Face close-up playback
Shutter Speed 1/4000 - 1/4 sec. 4 sec at most (Tv, Av, M, Night Scene mode setting)
Built-in flash Modes Flash-on and Flash-off modes. "Red-eye" reduction function employs a pre-discharge. Low-speed synchro, Low-speed synchro + Red-eye
Flash Range Wide: approx. 0.2 - 9.1m (ISO Auto), approx. 0.66 - 29.9 ft. (ISO Auto)
Tele: approx. 1.7 - 5.1m (ISO Auto), approx. 5.6 - 16.7 ft. (ISO Auto)
Drive Modes One shot, Continuous Shooting (L/M/H), Self-timer, 2 sec Self-timer, Interval Shooting, Auto Bracket
Power Source Rechargeable D-LI92 lithium-ion battery, Optional AC adapter kit is also available
Battery life Still*: Approx. 170 shots (Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery)
Playback**: Approx. 200 min. (Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery)
Interfaces USB2.0 (Hi-Speed), AV terminal, DC Input terminal
Dimensions approx. 110.5 (W) × 82.5 (H) × 89.5 (D)mm (excluding the operation parts and protrusion.)
approx. 4.4 (W) × 3.2 (H) × 3.9 (D) inches (excluding the operation parts and protrusion. )
Weight Body approx. 390g (without battery and SD memory card)
approx. 13.8 oz.
With battery & SD card approx. 410g (loaded and ready)
approx. 14.5 oz.
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That'll be interesting to see on a small sensor...
ISO 3200 & 6400 are achieved using "pixel-binning", giving only a 3MP image.

At least, that's how the Nikon P90 and Kodak Z980, which both seem to use the same sensor & lens, do it.
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X70 = Awwww.... suck.

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