Nikon Rumors Know Pentax

losecontrol · 03-05-2009, 06:16 AM

we are photographers....so we spend time shooting insteed of fight

I own nikon film camera, but I would never dream about fighting insteed of shooting!

Hate in the world...oh yes....so sad indeed.

Any nikon user said congrats to the 645D ?

Jonson PL · 03-05-2009, 06:39 AM

No need to start a flame war over there.

The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site :
Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug

Some are bringing knowledgeable info, others are just the regular trench diggers on the internet

lithos · 03-05-2009, 07:05 AM

Are they nuts or we are all being taken for a ride? Don’t they face the same challenges like Nikon? Only time will tell and I am sure you will have an opinion too. FYI at PMA Pentax introduced a new lens (Pentax DA15mm F4 ED AL) and 3 p&s cameras.

Hah. Can anyone else taste the bile in that last sentence above? "One lens - and three point-and-shoots! LOL!"

What's that fable from Aesop?

The Oak and the Reeds

A very large oak was uprooted by the wind and thrown across a
stream. It fell among some Reeds, which it thus addressed: "I wonder how you, who are so light and weak, are not entirely crushed by these strong winds." They replied, "You fight and
contend with the wind, and consequently you are destroyed; while we on the contrary bend before the least breath of air, and therefore remain unbroken, and escape."

Moral: Stoop to conquer.

I hope the 645D doesn't get too high a resolution. It needs to remain affordable. On the other hand, it needs to be higher res than the current 1D, the Nikon D3, and the Alpha 900.

I'd like to see the technology from the K20D's sensor applied to an MF sensor of about, oh, 35-40MP, just to tick off Hasselblad, and an ISO that goes up to - wait for it - 6400, with noise on par with a ISO 1600 on a K100D.

Bonus points if it turns out lighter than a 1D...

MrApollinax · 03-05-2009, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

No need to start a flame war over there.

The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site :
Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug

Some are bringing knowledgeable info, others are just the regular trench diggers on the internet

Wow... I really love his Mountainscape series!

ILoveVerdi · 03-05-2009, 10:20 AM

I love it "Pentax makes crappy cameras!"

Obviously never held or used one.

"This is aimed at market share!"

Why the hell would ANYONE think that a digital MF camera would be an attempt to improve market share?

I think it's more of an attempt to break into the pro portrait/landscape market with a technology they have a strong history in, as well as offering a bit of prestige to the name.

And I think a lot of those nikonians who are purely negative are just aghast that a 35mm player will have a camera with a sensor bigger than their D3X. Oh noes!

kenyee · 03-05-2009, 10:45 AM

Already posted in that yesterday as "Ken"...no point in trolling in a Nikon forum..just setting a few things straight ;-)

cousinsane · 03-05-2009, 10:47 AM

He is sort of a pentaxian. According to his post in the other pentax forum, he uses pentax medium format lenses on Canon FF DSLR body.

Originally posted by Jonson PL

The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site :
Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug

Wheatfield · 03-05-2009, 11:06 AM

Wheatfield strikes back.....

k100d · 03-05-2009, 11:27 AM

parts of that thread are lower than even DPR standards

**GaryM** · 03-05-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by tranq78

What a sad world we live in. So much anger and hate.

In my experience, people are generally nice to each other face to face - a camera club for example - but the anonymity of the keyboard removes the consequences of rude behavior. Just the nature of the beast.

Gooshin · 03-05-2009, 12:09 PM

what a nasty place!

Quote:

"who cares ? the pentax brotherhood is as rabid as they come. defending products that are irrelevant to the world today. pentax…we dont care, go away inbreds. even sony is more relevant in todays market than you are."

wow, just wow.

its pathetic to see something like this written down for people to read.

Ratmagiclady · 03-05-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

what a nasty place!

wow, just wow.

its pathetic to see something like this written down for people to read.

Definitely.... Something crazy there. I just find myself becoming more and more ... fed up with just how coarse and uncivil what's left of our national 'discourse' has become: seems to have been picked from some of the political and religious talk radio and TV, and it's not a good sign for our civilization.

Everyone kind of needs one sense of tribe or another, but I'd think that the photographic community, of all people, could get over some labels: I think without some sense and civility in the world in general, we could *all* find ourselves documenting some grimmer circumstances than we bargained for.

kristoffon · 03-05-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by GaryM

In my experience, people are generally nice to each other face to face - a camera club for example - but the anonymity of the keyboard removes the consequences of rude behavior. Just the nature of the beast.

as has been demonstrated before

Penny Arcade! - Green Blackboards (And Other Anomalies)

I really pity those people.

Ratmagiclady · 03-05-2009, 04:08 PM

Hey, I just noticed, though, from the picture they put that MZ-S like tilt to the top plate, didn't they? Nice.

cpopham · 03-05-2009, 04:53 PM

I am reminded of a particular xkcd strip:

03-05-2009, 10:20 AM	#20
ILoveVerdi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, MI. USA. Earth. Posts: 139	hilarious comments! I love it "Pentax makes crappy cameras!" Obviously never held or used one. "This is aimed at market share!" Why the hell would ANYONE think that a digital MF camera would be an attempt to improve market share? I think it's more of an attempt to break into the pro portrait/landscape market with a technology they have a strong history in, as well as offering a bit of prestige to the name. And I think a lot of those nikonians who are purely negative are just aghast that a 35mm player will have a camera with a sensor bigger than their D3X. Oh noes!

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03-05-2009, 06:16 AM	#16
losecontrol Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gnesta, Sweden Posts: 373	we are photographers....so we spend time shooting insteed of fight I own nikon film camera, but I would never dream about fighting insteed of shooting! Hate in the world...oh yes....so sad indeed. Any nikon user said congrats to the 645D ?

03-05-2009, 06:39 AM	#17
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	No need to start a flame war over there. The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site : Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug Some are bringing knowledgeable info, others are just the regular trench diggers on the internet

03-05-2009, 07:05 AM	#18
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Are they nuts or we are all being taken for a ride? Don’t they face the same challenges like Nikon? Only time will tell and I am sure you will have an opinion too. FYI at PMA Pentax introduced a new lens (Pentax DA15mm F4 ED AL) and 3 p&s cameras. Hah. Can anyone else taste the bile in that last sentence above? "One lens - and three point-and-shoots! LOL!" What's that fable from Aesop? The Oak and the Reeds A very large oak was uprooted by the wind and thrown across a stream. It fell among some Reeds, which it thus addressed: "I wonder how you, who are so light and weak, are not entirely crushed by these strong winds." They replied, "You fight and contend with the wind, and consequently you are destroyed; while we on the contrary bend before the least breath of air, and therefore remain unbroken, and escape." Moral: Stoop to conquer. I hope the 645D doesn't get too high a resolution. It needs to remain affordable. On the other hand, it needs to be higher res than the current 1D, the Nikon D3, and the Alpha 900. I'd like to see the technology from the K20D's sensor applied to an MF sensor of about, oh, 35-40MP, just to tick off Hasselblad, and an ISO that goes up to - wait for it - 6400, with noise on par with a ISO 1600 on a K100D. Bonus points if it turns out lighter than a 1D...

03-05-2009, 07:09 AM	#19
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Originally posted by Jonson PL No need to start a flame war over there. The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site : Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug Some are bringing knowledgeable info, others are just the regular trench diggers on the internet Wow... I really love his Mountainscape series!

03-05-2009, 10:45 AM	#21
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Already posted in that yesterday as "Ken"...no point in trolling in a Nikon forum..just setting a few things straight ;-)

03-05-2009, 10:47 AM	#22
cousinsane Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: madison Posts: 239	He is sort of a pentaxian. According to his post in the other pentax forum, he uses pentax medium format lenses on Canon FF DSLR body. Originally posted by Jonson PL The ninth user in the thread, who seems to know the field, has some great work on his site : Leping Zha Landscape Photography- powered by SmugMug

03-05-2009, 11:06 AM	#23
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Wheatfield strikes back.....

03-05-2009, 11:27 AM	#24
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	parts of that thread are lower than even DPR standards

03-05-2009, 11:44 AM	#25
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	Originally posted by tranq78 What a sad world we live in. So much anger and hate. In my experience, people are generally nice to each other face to face - a camera club for example - but the anonymity of the keyboard removes the consequences of rude behavior. Just the nature of the beast.

03-05-2009, 12:09 PM	#26
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	what a nasty place! Quote: "who cares ? the pentax brotherhood is as rabid as they come. defending products that are irrelevant to the world today. pentax…we dont care, go away inbreds. even sony is more relevant in todays market than you are." wow, just wow. its pathetic to see something like this written down for people to read.

03-05-2009, 12:56 PM	#27
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by Gooshin what a nasty place! wow, just wow. its pathetic to see something like this written down for people to read. Definitely.... Something crazy there. I just find myself becoming more and more ... fed up with just how coarse and uncivil what's left of our national 'discourse' has become: seems to have been picked from some of the political and religious talk radio and TV, and it's not a good sign for our civilization. Everyone kind of needs one sense of tribe or another, but I'd think that the photographic community, of all people, could get over some labels: I think without some sense and civility in the world in general, we could all find ourselves documenting some grimmer circumstances than we bargained for.

03-05-2009, 01:47 PM	#28
kristoffon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 532	Originally posted by GaryM In my experience, people are generally nice to each other face to face - a camera club for example - but the anonymity of the keyboard removes the consequences of rude behavior. Just the nature of the beast. as has been demonstrated before Penny Arcade! - Green Blackboards (And Other Anomalies) I really pity those people.

03-05-2009, 04:08 PM	#29
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Hey, I just noticed, though, from the picture they put that MZ-S like tilt to the top plate, didn't they? Nice.

03-05-2009, 04:53 PM	#30
cpopham Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Auckland Posts: 553	I am reminded of a particular xkcd strip: